The how does Prop 2 do any good?

And FWIW I believe that I have figured a way around Prop 2 (as it is written), at least for kids leaving a public school and going to a private school.

The how does Prop 2 do any good?

For rural schools, don't think it really does.

 

Also, I don't think Sears is misleading with the statement as it is the similar statement that I said months ago. All Prop 2 does is change the decision making from the freshmen year to the 8th grade year. Basically, that is all it does.

 

I think Prop 2 is a bandaid to tell the Prop 20 people that something is being tried to delay another round of Prop 20 iniatives. That is my feeling.

 

To also add to the mindset that in the rural schools the MS and HS's are not seen necessarily as two schools, a good number share faculty. At my school, a consumer and family resource teacher (used to be home ec for us older folks) teach 1/2 day in each building. Same for chorus. Same for band. Players in baseball, softball, soccer, golf, basketball, routinely play at the HS level. Band members of the MS age can play in the HS pep band. There is a FHA MS club sponsored by the HS FHA club. There is a ROTC club at the MS level, sponsored by the HS ROTC club. Harrison County's MS and HS is all on the same campus.

 

Really in the rural school mindset, it is not a big deal in the school change from MS to HS.

For rural schools, don't think it really does.

 

Also, I don't think Sears is misleading with the statement as it is the similar statement that I said months ago All Prop 2 does is change the decision making from the freshmen year to the 8th grade year. Basically, that is all it does.

 

I think Prop 2 is a bandaid to tell the Prop 20 people that something is being tried to delay another round of Prop 20 iniatives. That is my feeling.

 

To also add to the mindset that in the rural schools the MS and HS's are not seen necessarily as two schools, a good number share faculty. At my school, a consumer and family resource teacher (used to be home ec for us older folks) teach 1/2 day in each building. Same for chorus. Same for band. Players in baseball, softball, soccer, golf, basketball, routinely play at the HS level. Band members of the MS age can play in the HS pep band. There is a FHA MS club sponsored by the HS FHA club. There is a ROTC club at the MS level, sponsored by the HS ROTC club. Harrison County's MS and HS is all on the same campus.

 

Really in the rural school mindset, it is not a big deal in the school change from MS to HS.

 

Sears statement is misleading in saying that Prop 2 is just like the transfer rule that is now on the books. It clearly isn't. Prop 2 affects all students moving from one type of school to the other across the board regardless of if they have ever played sports before or not. The present transfer rule affects only those students who have played varsity sports.

 

As for MS students that play at the HS level, I and most of the private school people that I know would have no problem with making students that play VARSITY before their 9th grade year inelligible if they go to a different high school.

Sears statement is misleading in saying that Prop 2 is just like the transfer rule that is now on the books. It clearly isn't. Prop 2 affects all students moving from one type of school to the other across the board regardless of if they have ever played sports before or not. The present transfer rule affects only those students who have played varsity sports.

 

As for MS students that play at the HS level, I and most of the private school people that I know would have no problem with making students that play VARSITY before their 9th grade year inelligible if they go to a different high school.

Are you saying that if my child spends their 9th grade year at County HS and plays no sports than wants to transfer Christian ABC for their sophomore year and play golf with NO legitimate change of residence, there is no transfer issue with it?

 

I was under the belief that anytime, ANYTIME, a student transferred to a new school AFTER their freshmen season and then wanted to play a sport irregardless of whether they had played previously or not, you had to fill out a form and turn it into the KHSAA for their okay on that player playing.

 

I know that is the route that we have taken before on these situations.

 

How does it affect those students who do not play sports?

 

Also, I assume your ineligibility for before 9th grade is for one season (could they practice?) and would be waived with a legitimate change of address?

As I read the transfer rule unless a student has played VARSITY sports then they can change school, for whatever reason with no loss of eligibility.

 

The change of residence only comes inro play IF the SA played VARSITY sports.

 

At Trinity there have been numerous examples of kids leaving Trinity having played JV or freshman sports and being eligible immediately at their new school with no change of adress.

 

Bylaw 6. Transfer Rule

Sec. 1) Domestic Students

Any student who has been enrolled in grades nine (9)

through twelve (12) and has participated in any varsity

game in any sport at any school following enrollment in

grade nine (9) who transfers schools shall be ineligible for

interscholastic athletics for one year from the date of

enrollment in the new school.

The Commissioner has discretion (but is not required) to

waive the period of ineligibility set forth above if one of

the following exceptions has been met. Determinations of

whether a student shall be granted a waiver pursuant to

this rule shall be based on the circumstances existing as

of the date of enrollment at the new school. The KHSAA

shall not recognize as grounds for a waiver of the period

of ineligibility an argument that the educational needs of

the transferring students would be better served through

a transfer.

 

Transfer Rule

Varsity action it is. Thanks for the info AT.

As I read the transfer rule unless a student has played VARSITY sports then they can change school, for whatever reason with no loss of eligibility.

 

The change of residence only comes inro play IF the SA played VARSITY sports.

 

At Trinity there have been numerous examples of kids leaving Trinity having played JV or freshman sports and being eligible immediately at their new school with no change of adress.

 

 

 

Transfer Rule

 

 

With this post and the lively discussion in this thread is it agreed that

 

1. Prop 2 is NOT merely an extension of the current transfer rule and

2. Mr. Sears statement to the reporter was in factual error and completely understated the impact to school children?

With this post and the lively discussion in this thread is it agreed that

 

1. Prop 2 is NOT merely an extension of the current transfer rule and

2. Mr. Sears statement to the reporter was in factual error and completely understated the impact to school children?

 

I would agree with your assessment.

Are you saying that if my child spends their 9th grade year at County HS and plays no sports than wants to transfer Christian ABC for their sophomore year and play golf with NO legitimate change of residence, there is no transfer issue with it?

 

I was under the belief that anytime, ANYTIME, a student transferred to a new school AFTER their freshmen season and then wanted to play a sport irregardless of whether they had played previously or not, you had to fill out a form and turn it into the KHSAA for their okay on that player playing.

 

I know that is the route that we have taken before on these situations.

 

How does it affect those students who do not play sports?

 

Also, I assume your ineligibility for before 9th grade is for one season (could they practice?) and would be waived with a legitimate change of address?

I didn't see this line when I responded before.

 

If you don't play sports and never will it doesn't, just like the transfer rule doesn't affect someone who has not played varsity sports.

 

What it does do is it takes the OPTION of PLAYING (not practicing, PLAYING) sports away from them. I maintain that there are kids who have never been a part of a school team that may try out for sports in high school as freshmen that will not do so if they don't at least have the chance to participate in games. That includes those going from parochial schools to public high schools. If this rule steers even one kid away from sports then it is wrong. The transfer rule couldn't steer kids away from sports because you have to have played varsity for it to take effect.