I am sure many of you are probably watching this game as well, but as I am watching the LSU/Florida game I notice something that just happened that drives me crazy and need the help of my BGP faithful friends!!!

 

There is an obvious rule that states if a person with the ball has their knee on the ground then they are considered down. LSU just ran a fake field goal where the holder caught the snap, still had his knee on the ground, and threw a swing pass to the kicker. The kicker then ran the ball into the end zone for a TD.

 

My questions is simply this: if anyone with the ball's knee touches the ground they are ruled dead. If that is the case, shouldn't this play not be allowed because the holders knee is on the ground. And on top of that, wouldn't every Extra Point be considered a dead ball and that play not count. Help me out folks and enlighten me with some of your ultimate wisdom!

 

Sorry that this post is so long but this play bothers me and I am not even a Florida fan. Just something that has always bothered me and would like some clarification on!!! Thanks in advance

So considering all you said what might you think the rule for kicks to be?

If going by the rule book as soon as the holder receives the snap with his knee on the ground he is considered down and the play is dead. What I was wondering was if there is a side note in the rule book especially for the holders with their knees down? And also, if they try a fake like LSU did the holder basically becomes a QB and shouldn't he have to raise up and not have his knee on the ground before advancing the ball?

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You answered it. Exception on kicks.

You answered it. Exception on kicks.

 

Thanks, I didn't know that. But I am still curious about if it is a fake. The holder is no longer a holder and shouldn't he have to take his knee of the ground if he is going to throw or pitch it? I guess not after watching that fake which was really sweet. However I do not like that rule where he can keep his knee on the ground even if it is not a kick attempt

You answered it. Exception on kicks.

 

But there was no kick. I thought it would be reviewed as well. I guess not though. I felt like when LSU did this a few years ago there was some debate about if his knee was down then too.

But there was no kick. I thought it would be reviewed as well. I guess not though. I felt like when LSU did this a few years ago there was some debate about if his knee was down then too.

 

Doesn't have to be a kick. If lined up for a kick there is an exception.

 

Legal.

Rule 4 Article 1 Section 3 b

 

The ball remains alive when an offensive player has simulated a kick or at the snap is in position to kick the ball held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed, or advanced by rule.