Old school offense is fun Option is a fun offense to run when its ran right and I will take all of this and thanks for the support. I am going to try and attend some clinics and seminars and actually get my hands dirty.

:thumb: Tough Defense is imo most important. As for the "O" side establish the middle, get it outside on a sweep or option, trap it back across and when you throw - use play action and throw the dang ball down field.:lol: Again, good luck to you. I love to see and hear of people that have genuine interest in kids.

:thumb: Tough Defense is imo most important. As for the "O" side establish the middle, get it outside on a sweep or option, trap it back across and when you throw - use play action and throw the dang ball down field.:lol: Again, good luck to you. I love to see and hear of people that have genuine interest in kids.

 

That is what we ran last year. We would test the middle early and often and when the defense started to squeeze down or bite on FB dives then that when we would run it off tackle of a sweep to the outside. Believe it or not, the simplified version of the wing-t that we used towards the end of the season last fall really worked and caught people off guard. Our team was really talented and smart so we could run the same plays in multiple formations and have great success with it.

Great post Joe:thumb:

 

If someone ever congratulated me on winning something I always said that you couldnt tally up the results of my job with them until they were older and we could see if they gained something besides how to block & tackle

 

My point about personal involvement was from seeing/experincing coaches blowup on players (often a very good one) because they screwed up. Just because we put 110% into preparing them and they are good enough to do something doesnt mean they won't blow it sometimes. Personally I was very upset with a "star" player and couldnt figure out why I was so mad inside. I came to the conclusion that I felt let down by the kid. Im glad I learned that lesson early on and it changed how I dealt with coaching - actually made me closer and better in tune I believe.

It also led me to go to a Superintendent when a HS coach very openly ridiculed a very good player grabbing his facemask & screaming in front of everyone during a game. I just felt it a bad reaction.

 

Best wishes to all coaches now & later:D

Woody Jr

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: 5 THUMBS UP on that one Woddy! I have seen some of the same type things at my favorite school at times. The coaches may think that it will "fire the kid up", but I know of a couple of cetain instances where it did the opposite, they didn't care if they played or not and eventually lost a game that they were in with a chance of winning at the time.

That is what we ran last year. We would test the middle early and often and when the defense started to squeeze down or bite on FB dives then that when we would run it off tackle of a sweep to the outside. Believe it or not, the simplified version of the wing-t that we used towards the end of the season last fall really worked and caught people off guard. Our team was really talented and smart so we could run the same plays in multiple formations and have great success with it.

It is like my favorite line in the movie "Remember the Titans". When the assistant coaches were questioning the small playbook - the coach said " It's called the split veer gentleman, 6 plays. Just like Novacane, it may take a while but it is effdective!":lol: :lol: By the way fokf, it sounds like your players weren't the only talented ones, you sound pretty knowlegable and like you are on your way to being an excellent coach.

It is like my favorite line in the movie "Remember the Titans". When the assistant coaches were questioning the small playbook - the coach said " It's called the split veer gentleman, 6 plays. Just like Novacane, it may take a while but it is effdective!":lol: :lol: By the way fokf, it sounds like your players weren't the only talented ones, you sound pretty knowlegable and like you are on your way to being an excellent coach.

 

 

Thank ya:thumb:

 

We had the luxury of having a real talented backfield and offensive line. Our FB was so hardnosed that if there wasnt a hole he went ahead and try to make one. Really proud of this young man, without a FB your offense is essentailly predictable. Once we had him gaining 3-4 yards per play that when we knew we could run everything else. Our tailback was extremely quick so anytime we could use the wide side of the field then we would. All he really needed was a split second of daylight and he was gone.

Thank ya:thumb:

 

We had the luxury of having a real talented backfield and offensive line. Our FB was so hardnosed that if there wasnt a hole he went ahead and try to make one. Really proud of this young man, without a FB your offense is essentailly predictable. Once we had him gaining 3-4 yards per play that when we knew we could run everything else. Our tailback was extremely quick so anytime we could use the wide side of the field then we would. All he really needed was a split second of daylight and he was gone.

3 to 4 yards per play! Woody,Jr. and his name sake would be proud :lol: 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

3 to 4 yards per play! Woody,Jr. and his name sake would be proud :lol: 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

 

 

That is how we did what we did last year, 3 yards and a cloud of dust.:thumb: I love that saying.

That is how we did what we did last year, 3 yards and a cloud of dust.:thumb: I love that saying.

 

 

It can be fun to sling it around the field and light up the scoreboard on people.

But I've always enjoyed administering a slow painful death with a small margin so the other team can torture themselves endlessly with that "shoulda, coulda, woulda" thing stuck in their brain forever. It's like the gift that keeps on giving:D

Kinda sadistic, huh?:sssh:

 

Woody Jr

It can be fun to sling it around the field and light up the scoreboard on people.

But I've always enjoyed administering a slow painful death with a small margin so the other team can torture themselves endlessly with that "shoulda, coulda, woulda" thing stuck in their brain forever. It's like the gift that keeps on giving:D

Kinda sadistic, huh?:sssh:

 

Woody Jr

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I love it Woody :ylsuper: my philosophy exactly :thumb: I can very well tell that you have spent time around a couple of guys named H. Conley and V. Marsh. I have watched those two coaches teams play along with L. Heck,R. Snyder and B.T. Ross at my alma mater. There's a guy named McGlone in our area that has had somewhat mild sucsess with the same type system (lol) and a couple of state titles to show for it.Then everyone knows the system and sucsess that B. Lutz had at Ironton with the same way of old school thinking. A team knew what was coming....... Just could not stop it.

Guys all I can say is thanks so much. I have been getting flooded with support and valuable information which I am going to take and keep. Thanks so much guys, keep it coming.

Hey Fan, also remember in practice try different people in different positions. I remember when I was coaching youth league's "B" Team, we had Michael West who was the smallest kid on the team at that time and we put him at WR. Then during the absence one game of my Offensive coach, I put him at RB and on his second carry he scored a TD. I some good players on that team beside West, there was TJ Caudill (QB) who was the backup in high school to Alan Short, Todd Isaac (OL) who turned out to be a very good lineman, Dontae Wright (DT) , Dontae was a lanky youth who hadn't grown into his body at that time, but had a nose for the ball on the defensive side, offensive he was not quiet there.

My point is, I reconized each players abilities and applied it for the better of the team. Although this was the first year for several players playing football, we had several who had played ball in WV youth league at Tolsia. We only won 3 games but we got better each game and the kids learned alot and they continued their playing days at the next level, which produced some of LC's best teams in history.

I know your passion for the game, as I have seen it and I know what a great person you are and I believe that in itself will carry over to the kids you coach. :thumb:

Hey Fan, also remember in practice try different people in different positions. I remember when I was coaching youth league's "B" Team, we had Michael West who was the smallest kid on the team at that time and we put him at WR. Then during the absence one game of my Offensive coach, I put him at RB and on his second carry he scored a TD. I some good players on that team beside West, there was TJ Caudill (QB) who was the backup in high school to Alan Short, Todd Isaac (OL) who turned out to be a very good lineman, Dontae Wright (DT) , Dontae was a lanky youth who hadn't grown into his body at that time, but had a nose for the ball on the defensive side, offensive he was not quiet there.

My point is, I reconized each players abilities and applied it for the better of the team. Although this was the first year for several players playing football, we had several who had played ball in WV youth league at Tolsia. We only won 3 games but we got better each game and the kids learned alot and they continued their playing days at the next level, which produced some of LC's best teams in history.

 

 

 

 

I know your passion for the game, as I have seen it and I know what a great person you are and I believe that in itself will carry over to the kids you coach. :thumb:

 

 

Thanks for the kind words and I hope you and your family is doing great in Ohio. The first couple of weeks while we were conditioning and getting the boys into shape we tried kids at their natural position but also asked them to try other spots. Last year we had a kid who was an absolute bull as our back-up FB and after seeing how intense he was on every down we tried him at noseguard on defense and from then on out he absolutely dominated everyone. Great kid who has a bright future at the high school level, absolutely amazing to see a kid that young dominate as he did.

Hey Fan, also remember in practice try different people in different positions. I remember when I was coaching youth league's "B" Team, we had Michael West who was the smallest kid on the team at that time and we put him at WR. Then during the absence one game of my Offensive coach, I put him at RB and on his second carry he scored a TD. I some good players on that team beside West, there was TJ Caudill (QB) who was the backup in high school to Alan Short, Todd Isaac (OL) who turned out to be a very good lineman, Dontae Wright (DT) , Dontae was a lanky youth who hadn't grown into his body at that time, but had a nose for the ball on the defensive side, offensive he was not quiet there.

My point is, I reconized each players abilities and applied it for the better of the team. Although this was the first year for several players playing football, we had several who had played ball in WV youth league at Tolsia. We only won 3 games but we got better each game and the kids learned alot and they continued their playing days at the next level, which produced some of LC's best teams in history.

I know your passion for the game, as I have seen it and I know what a great person you are and I believe that in itself will carry over to the kids you coach. :thumb:

 

 

I played many years of youth league over at Tolsia and still have a lot of friends from over there that I still talk to when I can. Frank Kitts was my coached and was more of a father-like coach than someone who really knows the game. I played with Dontae and Mike West and TJ Caudill. Even remembering going over to Ona to play against a team that had a QB who was suppose to be a real-deal football player, come to find out years later that QB we played against turned out to be JP Allen and he was a fine football player as we LC fans know.:thumb: