October 1, 201412 yr RTS... thanks for the early Floyd encouragement. I'm working my way backwards starting with "Obscured by Clouds" with intentions of taking it all the way to the very beginning with "Piper", and then also to make sure I give "Division Bell" a listen too just to give it a fare shake. I revisited "Meddle" just as a refresher, and then today I just listened to "Atom Mother Heart"... Next up is "Ummagumma". So far it's been a delicious experience, and though I've had some false misconception over the years that earlier stuff wouldn't be recognized as Floyd-like, I'm happy to find that it very much is, which makes my familiarity with the Floyd sound making listening to it smooth and easy. OBC was interesting, but almost seemed in many places like ideas that weren't fully realized (mind you that's just from one listen, so that might not be a fair assessment). Since DSOTM came next, they most certainly had that one fully realized making OBC look like a warmup of sorts. Meddle was groovy just as I had remembered. AMH was very interesting to me and easily digestible like it really did have cohesive direction. I fully intend to get through the entire discography within the next couple of weeks to be fully loaded and ready for The Endless River. After getting through all unfamiliar stuff, I'm going to relisten as well to all that I am familiar with. Looks like the coming month is going to be Floydtober for the B-eebs. Nothing wrong with that.
October 1, 201412 yr Author B-Ball-fan, Meddle is one of my favorite albums! Love every song and Echos is such a cool, psychedelic gem! Give Ummagumma a good listen, it's wildly strange, yet mildly relaxing at times. Most of my friends would get wrecked before listening, if you get my drift. I never needed to, my mind was always naturally wrecked enough already. :lol2:
October 1, 201412 yr B-Ball-fan, Meddle is one of my favorite albums! Love every song and Echos is such a cool, psychedelic gem! Give Ummagumma a good listen, it's wildly strange, yet mildly relaxing at times. Most of my friends would get wrecked before listening, if you get my drift. I never needed to, my mind was always naturally wrecked enough already. :lol2: After being wreaked a million and one times in the past I made a choice about 5 years ago to turn the page. Nothing against it, and it never gave me any trouble, but just like Neil Young I decided that clarity was my new buzz. I needed a new experience as the old one was starting to feel passe' with me. With that said, I was tripping on DSOTM long before I ever partook in organic substances, and learned to trip on music at the age of 10 without additional assistance. I'm looking forward to Ummagumma, and whatever weirdness it holds in store for me will likely work on me with no assistance necessary. Probably being too honest here, and I never much dabbled in anything but weed, but after all my friends and I got junked up on "The Wall" time and again when I was about 16, and with neither one of us ever yet hearing "Animals", we all made a plan one dreary rainy November Sunday night to all take a little yellow pill, and lay on my bedroom floor to listen. Animals had an instant impact on all of us freaking us out with the distant sounds of dogs barking etc... The words and mood had instant impact as well. After the listening party disbursed I walked with one friend who had listened, but was "clean", in the pouring rain for a good while, and convinced him that the rain wouldn't hurt us. I almost feel that my trip spread to him somehow because he too was getting off on going against the grain and allowing himself too to be drenched just for the experience. When he finally went home I was now alone to finish out my experience, so I sat under my porch drenched with gym shoes soaked for about an hour with my parents not even knowing that I was there, and I also didn't want to have them see me just yet until I could make sure that they couldn't detect anything strange with me. This sitting period was full of analytical thoughts most definitely spawned by the "Animals" albums, and I remember thinking the depressing thought that no matter how close we can get to other humans, we are still trapped in our singular body. Another thought arrived related to the "Incurable isolation of the individual and societies mechanisms that destroy us". Ya think the Pink was working on me some? I finally snuck in the house and went directly to the bathroom and looked at my face in the mirror and (when I was I child I had a fever my hands felt just like two balloons) and my face and hands looked trippy and bloated. I managed to tell my parents from another room that I was home, and that I was going to my room to do my homework. I only partook in such a substance a few times long ago, but every time I see the album cover or hear "Animals" I instantly think of that rainy dreary November Sunday night of my youth, and reflect on the whole experience and the thoughts that were permeating my mind. Thankfully now I've managed to remedy that inescapable feeling of loneliness with a sense of spirituality, and that eternal love is the answer. I can't help but to think that without us really knowing or trying, picked quite the perfect night to experience such an album as "Animals".
October 1, 201412 yr OK.... just finished listening to Ummagumma... a very twisted experience indeed. Almost Halloween worthy in places. I think that it just might freak out the ghosts. What I can't understand is how they possibly could've duplicated much of this in concert. How could they really actually remember the content. I can see goofing around while high in the studio to come up with some of this stuff, but remembering and recreating it sounds like a challenging complicated task. There's some stuff here that makes me think of what sounds and voices might be stirring in the heads of psychotic schizophrenics sitting in straight jackets somewhere inside an insane asylum Had flashbacks while listening of something that I can even believe that I forgot. I saw Roger Water in July of 2000 at Riverbend. A buddy of mind had to surrender his ticket because his wife was giving birth. Roger played some numbers from Ummagumma late in the show I recall because the girl that I ended up taking was very familiar and went crazy with excitement when he started playing old stuff. My greatest live Pink Floyd experience wasn't even Pink Floyd, as it was a tribute band that I once saw. Since there are a few running around out there I can't even now say which one it was, but the one that it was, was out of this world excellent. I think it might've been at the Aronoff, and I'm sure we're going back about 15 years ago. First time seeing them was on the Momentary L-O-R tour at Rupp Arena where I was in the 2nd row.
October 1, 201412 yr When it comes to the "Dark Side Of Oz" rumor there's no doubt in my mind that they did this. For starters I've also no doubt that PF purposely leaked this info because who really would've could've had the thought to take a look to see in the first place? There's just too much stuff that's dead on. It truly is a stroke of genius to have been able to create it, and what blows my mind even more is how going through the album on its second spin things still continue to match the movie. I want someone to explain to me how that's possible, but freakishly it keeps happening, and no one can convince me that it's just a coincidence. The rainbow on the album cover was also a little hint from the very get go as well "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" If you've never done it, have the CD start just as the MGM Lion starts to roar for the 3rd time and make sure your CD player is set to repeat. What's also cool is when it starts to play the 2nd time around, Dorthy is knocking on the Tin Man's chest like a heart beat just as the heartbeat sound on the album is beating. Very groovy.
October 2, 201412 yr I just finished the "More" movie soundtrack release, and after crawling down the long asylum hallway with Ummagumma, this album was a mostly pleasant and interesting slice of Floyd with a complete cohesive feel about it. There was even one song that wouldn't sound too out of place during the grunge era, and another that felt very Bowie-esque, while most was unmistakably Floydish. All in all I liked it and it was an enjoyable easy listen, and am now interested in taking in the movie "More" which before listening to this, never knew anything about. I think that I'd listen to "More" some more too as I really dug it. I'm glad I got through Ummagumma earlier today so I finally settled in my mind what it is about, and it's not completely impossible that I'd ever listen to it again. I just know that I have to be ready for a steady diet of schizophrenia before doing so. Up next their 2nd release "A Saucerful of Secrets"
October 2, 201412 yr Author B-Ball-fan, you seem to "get" Pink Floyd, so many people don't. They are an extremely heady band, some can't wrap their minds around their music or lyrics the way you can, people like you are Pink Floyd's target audience. Glad you liked what you've listened to. By the way, I listen to Ummagumma at least once every two weeks or so. Have for years.
October 2, 201412 yr B-Ball-fan, you seem to "get" Pink Floyd, so many people don't. They are an extremely heady band, some can't wrap their minds around their music or lyrics the way you can, people like you are Pink Floyd's target audience. Glad you liked what you've listened to. By the way, I listen to Ummagumma at least once every two weeks or so. Have for years. OMG dude...seriously?.... are you OK? I can't even imagine. :eek: You'd have to be an interesting case study of its effect. No doubt you don't need additional substances... that there in itself most likely sends you regularly to whatever otherworldly head space imaginable and unimaginable. I bet even Roger and David had to eventually abstain. Shine on you crazy diamond.
October 2, 201412 yr Author ^ Ha ha! I absolutely love that album! Such a great way to escape the everyday hassles in life. What did you think of Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict?
October 2, 201412 yr ^ Ha ha! I absolutely love that album! Such a great way to escape the everyday hassles in life. What did you think of Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict? It certainly tickles the ear. Those furry animals had a groove and sure could jam in time. I had a Floyd loving Deadhead friend years ago who would speak in that language heard later in the piece, and now I understand where he learned it. Most thought that he was just nuts... not saying that he wasn't. I looked up "Pict" as I have never heard the term or knew what it meant. They are quite possibly my ancestors. It's funny that they claim Syd to be the one who went off the deep end.
October 2, 201412 yr Author It certainly tickles the ear. Those furry animals had a groove and sure could jam in time. I had a Floyd loving Deadhead friend years ago who would speak in that language heard later in the piece, and now I understand where he learned it. Most thought that he was just nuts... not saying that he wasn't. I looked up "Pict" as I have never heard the term or knew what it meant. They are quite possibly my ancestors. It's funny that they claim Syd to be the one who went off the deep end. I love the exaggerated Scottish burr in that song! Found this on Songfacts, not sure if all of it is accurate or not: The sounds of the "small furry animals" were actually created by Roger Waters and mixed in at varying speeds to make them sound somewhat realistic. There is a hidden message at about 4:22 into the song. If played at a slower speed, you can hear a voice (most likely either Waters or guitarist David Gilmour) say, "That was pretty avant-garde, wasn't it?" The Picts were an ancient people of northern Britain, who in the 9th century AD co-founded the kingdom of Scotland with the Scots. Waters does his best Scottish impression on this song. (I had heard Waters friend Ron Geesin was actually the voice on this track, so I'm not sure which is accurate). The album's title, Ummagumma, is British slang for sex. It might also be taken as a synonym for Rock & Roll music itself, since the phrase "Rock & Roll" originated as sexual slang.
October 3, 201412 yr Just another thought about Pink Floyd. While growing up listening I would've never considered David Gilmore's guitar style as being blues based. I can dig the blues at times and get off on it's vibe, but have my limits with it as after a while it can start sounding generic, and can get tiresome. Gilmore it seems found a way through his psychedelic style to disguise it somehow to not sound so straightforward bluesy and especially in their earlier stuff. I haven't heard "Division Bell" yet so I'm anxious to see if he brought that "all his own style" that gave Floyd their signature sound. If I'm recalling things correctly, it did appear that on MLOR he started leaning towards traditional blues and perhaps was why I started drifting. After another good listen of that It'll be more in focus with me whether or not he had. My love for PF has always been more so for their psychedelic trippiness. In the early days if I had felt a ton of blues from them I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have dug them as much.
October 3, 201412 yr OK... so I listened to MLOR for the first time in years, and "Division Bell" for the first time ever. Firstly, discount what I said about the more traditional bluesy sound in MLOR. It was there sorta at times, but in general still Gilmore's signature touch. MLOR all came flooding back to me and I mostly enjoyed the listen, and at times sections that I could take or leave. There is at times a droney non-melodic way that he sings that grates on me a bit, and I say that reluctantly because I've always dug his smooth voice. He demonstrates a strong digestible likable tone on "On The Turning Away". All in all I liked it more than I remembered, and at times certain vibes reminded me of what I could do without. "Division Bell" was an enjoyable listen, and I only recall ever hearing two songs that I caught somehow in the past by osmosis without trying to which were "Keep Talking" and "High Hopes" which BTW I noticed towards the end of the song where he sings the words "The Endless River" I really liked the mood of the album and every musical interlude within it. I think that I'd like to listen to it again sometime to become more familiar with it. I definitely want to give it at least one more spin again before hearing "The Endless River" I still need to listen to "Saucerfull of Secrets" and "Piper" and after that I'll treat myself to all the familiar stuff, "DSOTM", Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall, and take another listen to The Final Cut to see what I think after all this time. It's been fun to listen to all of this recently because my lazy mind got in the habit of saying "Been There Done That", and I know to well that with just about anything in life when you resort to that you allow yourself to forget how great certain things are to experience, musically, or in life itself.
October 3, 201412 yr After listening to "Saucerfull of Secrets" and "Piper" which I found extremely interesting especially because it's where it all began with the whole PF trippy concept I couldn't help but wonder what Syd and Co. were listening to at the time that had such an influence on them to reach so far outside of the norm. I came to discover that Syd was influenced by a British experimental guitarist named Keith Rowe from a group named AMM AMM are a British free improvisational / experimental group founded in 1965. AMM have been cited as being one of the first musical outfits to play music completely in contrast with any established musical genre. Although AMM remain incredibly obscure to the collective, they have been very influential to the artists of improvised and experimental music. Consisting of Cornelius Cardew, Lou Gare, Eddie Prévost, Keith Rowe and Lawrence Sheaff, AMM continue to preform (although, Prévost is the only original member remaining). There are various selections on Youtube of AMM which I've not yet listened to in extreme depth, but what I have heard demonstrates clearly how they were an obvious influence.
October 3, 201412 yr I get a serious kick out of watching these early counter culture trippy beatnik hipsters trying to dance to a mostly undanceable style of music. An interesting time capsule to say the least. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV5rDUhXzBc
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