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  1. Would it be correct to assume that those of you who support legalization of marijuana also support use of it? Can someone venture to tell me of what use it is? (Other than isolated medical).

     

    For those who like to declare it to be of less evil than alcohol, I would welcome any reasons given to drink also.

     

    I would imagine that people who smoke marijuana do it for the same reasons that people who smoke ciggarettes, or drink socially, or visit casino's or strip clubs from time to time, or eat potato chips, or Pizza, or candy, or have sex, or watch TV, or do any of the thousands of things that one can do that isn't neccaserally good for you in extraneous amounts.

     

    People do it to relax, or to socialize, or for the pleasure that it brings.

  2. The history of Israel is a case study of how appeasing terrorists is bad national policy. Our stated national policy has been to refuse to negotiate with terrorists, yet we continuously pressure Israel to make concessions to terrorists thugs. The result has been a bloody stalemate.

     

     

     

    UHH.

     

    The history of Israel is a case study of how angry a group of people will become after you displace them.

     

    It is such a disputed territory because of the fact that there were Arabs that were living there before the Zionist movement brought wave of Jewish immigrants into the area.

     

    Imagine if a group of people decided that they were going to establish a nation in Texas (say mexicans). Americans wouldn't be too cool with that.

     

    I don't care who you are. What happened in Palestine at the begining of the 20th century was pretty dirty (like alot of stuff that was happening at the time).

     

    Now they have a mess over there.

  3. The proper context is that Wright has made a series of racist, anti-American comments and his church proudly declares itself an adherent of the black liberation theology founded by James Cone. Treating Wright's comments as if they were made in a singular instance is not addressing them in context.

    Had the US allowed Israel to fully exercise its God-given right to self defense, Israelis and Palestinians would have settled their differences decades aga and would be living in peace today. The amount of public support shown for Jeremiah Wright following the disclosure of his racist rants dwarfs the support that white racists like David Duke have received from mainstream conservatives.

     

     

    I just cannot, as a student of history, agree with this statement. At all.

  4. The past is the past, it needs to be left behind. Instead, children are being taught to hate and sadly it's a two way street.

    You don't agree with his words and you think he's gone astray, yet you say he's attempting to arouse a sense of pride within the Black community that he feels would compel them to stand up and make a change. He's continuing the cycle of hate, so how can that possibly work out to the good?

     

     

    While I agree, obviously, that its not good for children to be taught hate.

     

    I need to point out that its not as easy as you say to just leave the past in the past. History is history, and if you just forget your history you cant learn from it and you will be doomed to repeat it.

     

    It also seems like your not realizing what im saying. The Black community does not, as a whole, harbor some sort of resentment or hate towards the U.S.

     

    IMO the problem is a self-hate within the Black community that was engrained by the U.S. for generations and can't just be forgotten (after a generation or so of change) so easily as you suggest. Wright is trying to do something to help fix that, but as I said, I think he has gone astray.

  5. It's obvious that we're looking at the same issue from different perspectives.

     

    My point is that there is a reason, and a legitimate one at that, for all of the problems that exist in the Black community.

     

    It doesnt make sense to point out the problems without aknowledging the reason that those problems exist.

     

    IMO the problem, which I stated earlier, is the self-hate that was engrained in the Black community by America in the past, that is still passed on from one generation to the next.

     

    Rev. Wright is attempting, in a sense, to arouse a sense of pride within the Black community that he feels would compel them to stand up and make a change.

     

    Do I agree with the words he uses when he does this? no.

     

    I think he has gone astray, but as I said earlier, I think at the core his intentions are good.

  6. Since you're in such agreement, tell me why the generation that wasn't part of that time has the same anger.

    Yes you do. That's an enabling attitude again. Take a look at how people live in Appalachia; they're often referred to as “the poorest of the poor."

     

    And people never lie on surveys or questionnaires?

     

    Do you not agree that one's personlity is shaped by their elders, members of their community that are older than them?

     

    You can't expect such strong feelings to just disappear in one maybe two generations.

     

    That's on both sides of the issue too.

  7. Whites are more likely to kill family members, infants, and elders.

     

    Whites are more likely to commit sex related murder, gang related murder, and workplace related murder.

     

    Whites are more likely to kill by arson, and far more likely to kill using poison.

     

    Lastly whites are more likely to kill more than one victim.

     

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

     

    From the Bureau of Justice Webpage.

     

    This obviously means that the White community has a problem that they need to take care of. :scared:

     

    The numbers are really sort of irrelevent in this conversation. It's obvious that there are some promlems in the Black community.

     

    My point, and what it seems like people dont get is that there are still two or three generations that are alive and well who lived during the era in our country when Blacks were meant to feel less than human. If you don't think that has an effect on the Black community today you are kidding yourself.

  8. Maybe they should try to help themselves.

     

    Everyone can make it out if they want, some just don't care. It's not their fault that they are disadvantaged, but it's their fault that they're content to stay that way.

     

    They need to work their way out of poverty, which they can, many have.

     

    Finally something I agree with you on. Why do you think that is?

     

    Like some nice shinny new building with nice classrooms would make a difference. :rolleyes:

    The problem on the education issue is the lack of parenting, period.

     

    As for the crime:

     

    Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

     

    When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.

     

    The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

     

    Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

     

    Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

     

    Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

     

    Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

     

     

    How does drug use and drug related crimes equal the same thing?

     

    Where did you find this data?

  9. It seems like there a movement by some to point out the "a-rabby" sound of Obama's name by referring to his middle name (Seemingly drawing an association with Saddam), with hopes of maybe frightening some voter enough to sway votes away from him.

     

    I found an article that, if you take the time to read, will educate you on the real meaning, context, and background of his name.

     

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/02/28/hussein/

     

    "John McCain repudiated Cunningham's low tactics and said that using the middle name like that three times was "inappropriate" and would never happen again at one of his rallies."

     

    " Barack and Hussein are Semitic words. Americans have been named with Semitic names since the founding of the republic. Fourteen of our 43 presidents have had Semitic names"

     

    "America is a world civilization with a world heritage, something Cunningham will never understand. "

     

    "Barack is a Semitic word meaning "to bless" as a verb or "blessing" as a noun. In its Hebrew form, barak, it is found all through the Bible. It first occurs in Genesis 1:22 -- "And God blessed (ḇāreḵə) them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth." "

     

    "Now let us take the name "Hussein." It is from the Semitic word hasan, meaning "good" or "handsome." Husayn is the diminutive, affectionate form."

     

    "Obama's first two names mean "blessing, the good." If we are lucky enough to get him for president, we can only hope that his names are prophetic for us."

  10. Self-hate? The core of the problem for the black community is self-hatred??? Not fatherless families? Not a high crime rate? Not a lack of education? Not a reliance on government entitlement programs? But because they don't love themselves enough? Sorry, I just don't follow that one at all.

     

    Their problems would appear to have everything to do with exactly what Mr. Cosby so eloquently stated. And these problems are difficult to overcome when the more publicly seen "spokesmen" for the black community are people like Jessie Jackson, Louis Farakhan, Al Sharpton, and others, who place the blame on everyone but their own race and preach everything but personal responsibility.

     

     

     

    Have you read my previous posts in the thread?

     

    There is somewhat of a context to what I was saying.

     

    I did not say that it was the problem, I said it was the reason for the problems that you speak of.

     

    You can't solve a problem until you know why the problems exists.

     

    That is the reason why I feel those problems that you pointed out exist.

     

    Is there any other reason that you would suggest?

     

    If you really think about it (be sure to read my previous posts first) it makes sense.

  11. The Bengals are not that good, have never really been that good, and probably never will be that good. It is my opinion that this is something that will keep happening, the best player on the team eventually gets frustrated with losing, managment wont make the neccesary changes, and said player becomes upset alienating himself from the fanbase forcing the bengals to let him go.

     

    First it was Dillion, now its Chad. Who knows who it will be next? I guess we'll see in a few years.

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