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Why were they suppose to beat Grant?
Scott is doing better. First year with a new staff and new systems. They played a tough game at Holmes which could have went either way. They were a couple of mistakes away from having a better shot at the end or not getting themselves in a hole.
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I hear that the senior powder puff team won on a "wrong ball" trick play. Maybe the Raiders will try that?
Except that is illegal now.
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Word is that from here on out TC will be using the A-11 more. It seems there has been problems with officials and rulings is one of the reasons they have not been doing more of it.
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To determine if a player is on the LOS his face mask has to be even or break the center's belt/waist. That is how it is judged correct?
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A few other things that are odds and ends. I am sure someone will correct me if wrong but the person that receives that snap does not have to be at 7yds but you do have to have someone that is eligible to receive the snap at 7. This also protects the center to a degree.
As far as the offense goes do not confuse the offense with formations. What some are calling the A11 more than likely is formation like the BYU formation (named for BYU), Ninja is what Texas Tech calls it, and Spurrier runs Emory and something else. These formation split their tackles and ends out. Sometimes they will line up rec between the split tackle and the center. Dutch Meyer at TCU ran an empty offense that one paper looks like what some would call the A11.
The A11 is based on the scrimmage kick formation rules. That is what it hinges on and what it has expanded off of. Spread kick/Rugby kick type formations and trick plays are nothing new. The A11 uses jet/fly, option (and option of with the jet back) and draw as a large part of its run game. The idea is to create angles. They also want to confuse the defense as far as who can go downfield. Throwing screens makes this harder to do. Add the shifts and motions and it can be a nightmare. I am sure officals would prefer not to see it because it requires such a level of concentration.
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doubledeuce I think is pointing to the of the rule that causes issues. Like had been stated you can cut block as long as the ball has not left the free block zone. There are other things that go into it such as if the player being blocked was on the LOS. Depending on how you line up your OTs can be outside the freeblock zone also.
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Yes is can be called on any normal play. Most of the time you see it on WR (DB holding a rec of some type) and the such. You will see it where DL grab OL to create gaps. Male in 93 would hold the Boone County OL once they went to tight splits so their LBers could flow to the backs. Another one you do not see to much is defensive blocking below the waist. Defenders are not allowed to "cut" offensive players except in certain set ups.
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I am happy for Fowler. He is a great person and coach.
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Many of the newer field turfs use the crumb rubber also. There are a number of ways to get rubber for free.
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I also thought they would never play Lex Cath again. I am a little surprised to see that game
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I am fairly sure changing jersey numbers is illegal. A player may wear 2 different numbers but he is suppose to be listed on the roster as both.
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The offense has been turned over to the OC for complete controll. I would not be surprised if they run a 44 and look to force teams to throw
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The run game is jet, option, zone and option off the jet. Option is where it gets a little crazy since any player can do what is commonly refered to as cowboy motion (at the snap the player drops straight back) to get into position to take a pitch. Add that to running option off of the jet.
Bryant hass stated he is working with some colleges. The offense runs into a number of issues past Fed rules. NCAA rules restrict this offense a ton.
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Bryant has been on a number of coaching site (Coach Huey) about the offense. Here is some information.
It is legal in states using the Federation Rules (Texas and I think 2 other states use NCAA rules).
In fed rules a player must have both a legal number and by position to be able to catch a forward pass.
The scrimage kick formation allows you to by pass the number restrictions in that you can have more players wearin eligable numbers. It also protects the center (think punt and field goals).
The offense spreads the field much like teams do with the rugby style punts (WVU and Danville at one time used this style).
Through shifts and motions they can change who is an eligable reciever. This causes issues with coverages because you have to keep track of who is going out. It also changes personal due to lack of an OL.
It is taking advantage of a loophole and some states are looking into changing things to prevent it.
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Shelby - Boone 87 4A title game. I believe it marks the last time that the game contained 2 county schools
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Coach Fowler saw that when he was growing up in the Mayfield system and then again when he played in Shelby County saw how much of an improvement the Rockets had when they started from elementary on up to the high school level.
I can not comment on Mayfield by the Shelby County comment is off. Youth and middle schools teams in Shelby did not run the same stuff as the HS. As far as "improvement" Between 76 and 93 Shelby played in 4 state title games winning 1 and had 1 undefeated season. Look at the teams Shelby played in the early 90s when Fowler was there. The Freshman played both Trinity and St X twice every year. There is no question his playing days had an impact on how and what he coaches.
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While said in jest, not all schools play by Canadian rules (3 downs, longer and wider field). The only difference is location
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There is no 4A in track. It only goes to 3A.
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Folwer is not orignal from Shelby County. I believe he lived in Mayfield before moving. 88 was the year WC beat Shelby in the playoff game. It was the year after Shelby had won the st title. It appears he was QB about the time Damion Hood was there.
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When was he at Warren Central? If it was late 80s that is an interesting combination. It would mean he was the QB of the Warren Central team that beat an undefeated Shelby County team in the playoffs. That would have been before Fowler moved ot Shelby County. He played during the early to mid 90s then he played against Fowler.
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More than likely he did turn the offense over to Hilton. He was looking to give full controll of the offense over to the OC. I believe it has been said some where that Hilton was the QB coach at K-State.
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I would assume from the statement he runs a pro-style passing attack (like Coverdale) and inside/outside zone. That and offenses based out of the gun are the two most common right now.
Like I said later I can some what understand his POV. Below D1 you are limited resource and time wise so you narrow down things. I would be interested in why he believes wing t QBs are that far behind in general and what he uses to determine if a team is a wing t team. There is such a big difference between QBs now and QBs 10 yrs ago.
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Scheme wise the description just does not sound like a doube wing. Zone is not part of a DW system an extremely few run outside veer. Most do not like anytype of option past speed from it due to the splits. The base of the offense is the power off tackle play.
Wyatt did run the DW out of what looks like flexbone/double slot/ace but the core of the system was the same. Power, Counter, Trap, Sweep, and Wedge. Where you get variety is in the sweep portion and to a lesser degree the counter action.
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I do not know about KY but do a search for the Barta Bone. I think it is a team in KS. Also while not the bone there are tons of teams in MI that run the dead t. The national average for passes per game is only like 10.