Frances Bavier

Well, we'd obviously have to have several threads to discuss it (taking every opportunity to berate and belittle anyone that disagrees with us). Maybe someone with a degree in jurisprudence can give us some direction ... Frances

Stickymitts - I never really started a "scale of rational thinking" - I just read posts in controversial threads to get a better grip on who can defend their positions, and who has to resort to "cause I believe it's right" or "my values are better than your values"... You may have hit on a great idea, though. Maybe we could start some system wherein we rate each member on his/her ability to support their positions (regardless of their stance on a given issue) with your "scale of rational thinking". We could rate the important posts on a scale of 1 to 10, and see where we all end up. Of course, you couldn't rate your own posts, and it would be on the honor system. Then again, it might be a little embarassing for those of us with a rating that is lower than the number of eyelets in a pair of penny loafers. Rockmom - We share the same side of many debates, but not all of them. Then again, I'd be worried if someone agreed with my views 100% of the time. One thing you do NOT lack is the ability to present your views in a clear manner, with solid reasoning intact. Thanks, Frances

Fastbreak and stickymitts, I just sent a PM to oldschoolwrestler, in which I told him that the reason I read most of these types of threads is because they reveal which members can take a position, then defend it with rational thought (and coherent statements). On the other hand, it also reveals those that can't... Frances

LOL - I am more than a little amused to read most of these threads and I am amazed that most of them don't break down into name calling, insult laden rants. Frances PS - actually, some of the posts (on both sides) do come awfully close to doing just that.

To be honest with you Fastbreak, I have absolutely no intention of participating in this seemingly unending debate. This issue is much like religion, politics, abortion, homosexual rights, etc. in that it has no attainable resolution that will satisfy both sides. Everyone with a functioning brain stem and an interest in this issue has an opinion, and almost no one is going to change their position. Thanks, Frances

Well, it took 5 pages and probably 20 different threads, but someone finally pegged the true advantage that Private schools enjoy - in a single sentence. I have stayed out of the public/private debate, and will continue to do so - but this one sentence clearly (and succinctly) captures the root of the "uneven playing field" that is at the heart of this argument. For the debate of Public versus Private to come to any meaningful resolution, both sides must find some common ground from which to start - and this is it. Regardless of which side of the Public/Private debate you are on, if you cannot admit that this is an advantage (and a BIG one), then there is no reason to continue the debate. If either side cannot (or will not) recognize this, any (and every) resolution of the problem is doomed to fail. It is not unlike lying on your scorecard during a round of golf, then being stumped as to why you never really get any better at the game. In my opinion, all other issues are simply red herrings. Thanks, Frances

LOL - I thought that and a $10 bill were the two prerequisites for membership on BGP... :thumb: Frances

Gametime - I just noticed - 25,000 posts???? My goodness!!! Do you have a life outside of the internet, or is this the extent of your existence??? I am impressed. I feel like such a novice ... (which rarely happens at my age). Amazed, Frances

Gametime - This may be my favorite thread of all time. You have to LOVE the absurdity of it all (not just this thread - but what inspired it). Sheer genius for starting it. Genius. Cader - Before you go too far with Justin Wallace, you might want to go back and read the first and second pages of this thread. I'm sure that Justin is a fine player, but this thread isn't really what the title might suggest it to be (especially if you don't read the first two pages of posts). Thanks, Frances

I just have to ask: 1) Exactly how tall is he? B) Is he really a lefthander, or does he handle the pill with both hands? Thirdly) What grade is he in?? I heard that he was really 6'1". What's the scoop? Frances

Well, it is a basketball crazy state ... And on top of that, I don't think we've even gotten any input from the western end of the state. There may well be an undiscovered nugget in the Paducah area, that meets the stringent criteria. Frances

If I'm not mistaken, this photo was taken about a week after Petie signed the endorsement contract with Adidas (notice that he is wearing his own "Signature Line" of new treads). Scooterbob is setting Petie up for his Academy Award winning crossover dribble - two frames later and you'd see him going left for the flush. Frances

That's a good question, HHSDad. Maybe Gametime could clear that up for us. I was thinking that I might be reading the question all wrong - maybe he's asking for two guards with five left hands that live within a six foot, twenty mile radius of the house. Now, I'll have to redraw the radius circle on the map, and see how many more schools that will include, but to be honest, the tough part is going to be finding two guys that have five left hands. Of course, in Eastern Kentucky, with all of the inbreeding, it is possible that we might have a considerable selection to choose from! I've got my scouts out right now, watching some 7 and Under leagues, looking for just such a coaching bonanza. I'll keep you posted. Related to the Baron, Frances

That's it! He's on the list! Frances

FSU? Is that the Flatgap School for Underachievers? I thought so. Frances

A technicality. Many are unaware that Johnson also led our conference in scoring in soccer his junior year. Then again, Mudflats was the only school to field a team until two years after he graduated. Frances

I hope you aren't laughing at the boys - they worked hard to perfect their games! Frances

OH, OH, I've got it!! I'll rank them according to their stats (where available) - feel free to comment. 1) "Lefty" Jones - averaged 22 points a game, until he got to the fifth grade. His sixth grade coach was a moron and wouldn't start him - career fizzled after that. 2) "Lefty" Johnson - led the conference in assists three straight years, averaging 0.03 assists per game (they don't pass much in our neck of the woods). 3) "One Thumb" Bronson - born a natural lefty, he was strictly right handed - but only because of the accident while trying to clear a jam out of the combine on the farm. Nice outside set shot, but never could go to his left with any real authority. Some say the sky was the limit, if only they had kept some dry ice around the house. 4) "Lefty" Smith - best rebounding guard to EVER come through these parts. Smith was a warrior under the boards, and a true master of the "stand on the other guy's foot" move. He didn't really even jump all that well, but oddly, neither did his opponent. 5) "Lefty" Anderson - no real talent for the game, but he was a good guy to have on the bench. He could imitate the coach doing his halftime speech, and keep you in stitches throughout the game. Come to think of it, I'm not sure he ever got in a game - hence, the lack of stats. You can argue about how to rank 'em, but these are definitely the cream of the crop from our area. I doubt that anyone would have the nerve to tell any one of their Mom's that they shouldn't be here (at least, not face to face). Frances

Thanks, gametime, I appreciate the welcome back. Okay, let me make sure I'm understanding this correctly - I'm supposed to name the top 5 2 guards 6 foot and under from within a 20 mile radius, right? Is that for a total of 10 guards that are shorter than 6 feet, or under 30 guards that live close to home? There are just too many variables - I feel like I'm back in Algebra class - and the first trip through was a nightmare!! Would it be okay if I just named the starters from my Alma Mater from the last four years, or can I just name my two sons and three hacks from our crosstown rival? My head is really starting to hurt. :cry: Confused, Frances

Be careful HHSDad - I used to date a guy that had a real big "ulna". He broke my heart. Come to think of it, would that be a left handed ulna, or can we consider the kids with a right handed ulna also? Now, can I get a ruling on naming 6 instead of 5? Man, I'm getting confused again. :irked: Frances

To be honest, I'm more than a little surprised that we haven't had some takers on this one. You just know that a couple of people are out there with a map, trying to figure out what schools fall within the twenty mile radius. Of course, you probably have a few that are trying to Google up the definition of "radius". Frances PS - I have six kids in mind - can I name them all, or do I have to "cut" one?