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    Casey County 74 Pulaski County 64 (47th district semi-finals)

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

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    You may be thinking of Southwestern (Southern Pulaski Middle) more so than Pulaski (Northern Pulaski Middle). Southern middle won the KBA state tournament 3 years in a row with the current sophomore class (2012, 2013, 2014). Southwestern has been ranked in the top 15 in the state all year long. Next year they could be top 5 in the state with the talent they return. Before that, Southern had a final 4 KBA state team in 2008. In 2012 that team was in the final 4 at Rupp Arena. In 2010 Southern had another final 4 appearance a KBA. In 2014 that team got beat in the 12th Region finals by a very good Wayne Co. team (That Wayne team had a junior class that won KBA state in 2009 6th and 2010 7th). As you can see Southern Pulaski has had a lot of success at the middle school level and it has transitioned into successful high school teams.

     

    Northern had a good 8th grade teams in 2012, 2013 that finished in the final 4 (The current junior and senior class). They were also really good in middle school football which translated into 3 class 5A state final appearances and state champions in 2014 in high school. As for basketball, the Pulaski junior class lost Peyton Gover to Southwestern after his dad was let go as Pulaski's head coach 2 years ago. That was a huge loss! Others chose to focus on football. Northern Pulaski had never won the KBA state tournament until this year’s current 8th grade class. They won 6th in 2014, 7th in 2015, and 8th in 2016. They are an extremely talented group but you won’t see them excel at the varsity level for a couple of years.

     

    Somerset is an independent school system separate from Pulaski County. Their middle school is Meece Middle. They rarely had a competitive team in KBA middle school state until recently. The sophomore class was the first team to make it to the final four at the KBA. They were state runner up in 7th (2013) and 8th (2014). The first team to win state was this year’s 7th grade team. They won 6th (2015 and 7th (2016). Now Meece did have a very good middle school team in 2008 but they never made it to the final 4. That team lost Taylor Gover to Pulaski and a few others. In 2013 that Somerset team was 12th region runner up despite the transfers out.

     

    This explains it all. Nice post.

     

    Also to add to that, what many don't remember is that this year's PC senior class lost to Pikeville in a close one at the KBA final four in 2011. The championship game between Pikeville and Holmes was shut down at halftime because of an ineligible player for Pikeville, P-ville blowing them out by 20+. That fact being brought up PRIOR to the title game, which should have been a Pikeville forfeit against Northern and had Northern in the title game. No doubt in my mind the Maroons would have won that one. That technicality left another Pulaski/Somerset area championship in Lexington that day.

    Casey County 74 Pulaski County 64 (47th district semi-finals)

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

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    I was just answering the question about why they're so competitive at middle school state. I should've stated the other obvious thing. That being that most Louisville and Lexington schools don't even play middle school state.

     

    I've seen LCA, LexCath, EJ Hayes, Jessie Clark (if I remember correctly) out of Lexington play in the state tourney.

     

    Farnsley, JCTMS, Noe, Barret, Kammerer, along with other JCPS are all regulars at the middle school state tournament.

     

    Then I also understand that most of those middle school players pick and choose where they will attend high school based on certain criteria. Those schools SHOULD be elite at the high school level. That is the true high school advantage for success in those areas of the state, specifically in Louisville.

    Casey County 74 Pulaski County 64 (47th district semi-finals)

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

    Posted

    The middle school explanation is simple. And one that's been discussed on this board hundreds of times. Most of their kids are much older than the other middle school kids from the Louisville and Lexington area. The physical differences really take a toll when you have a 12 year old guarding a 14 year old. That would explain what happens at middle school state.

     

    So your 12 year 364 day old kid guarding a 14 year 1 day old kid (realistically just 1 year apart) is your explanation for this? I would venture to say that every team in the BGP top 10 right now has a hold back.

    Casey County 74 Pulaski County 64 (47th district semi-finals)

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

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    Okay. I didn't know the Powell brothers were originally Pulaski kids. I was thinking back to them losing Taylor Gover to Pulaski County. They also lost DJ Townsend to Rowan County and Daniel Coldiron to Wayne County this year but they don't fall in the losing kids to Pulaski County schools. Are there any others in the past that were Somerset kids that ended up elsewhere? Meece is a mainstay deep in the middle school tournaments and for some reason they have a hard time duplicating that success at the high school level.

     

    A lot of the recent transition from Pulaski to Somerset has a lot to do with Coach Cothron taking that job. He was formerly at Northern, so that makes sense. He's a good coach. I expect Somerset to be much better next year.

    Casey County 74 Pulaski County 64 (47th district semi-finals)

    in KY Boys Basketball (High School)

    Posted

    They have a good amount of success in high school. Southwestern and Pulaski County are normally mainstays in the region tournament. Somerset has a good tradition and while they have seen better days they seem to end up losing kids to Southwestern or Pulaski County when they get to high school.

     

    I have to disagree with this comment. Somerset currently has 3 players who played middle school ball at Pulaski. Had 5, but 2 transferred back to Pulaski this season.

    High Schools Producing College Athletes

    in KY Football (High School)

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    With both Male and Trinity putting so many kids on College football teams does that mean both take a step back to the pack next year? They seemed to be clearly better than anyone in the state last year. Does this open things up for teams like X, Scott Co, or Lafeyette

     

    That's a good question. I would think they would just reload being who they are, but you never know. Maybe someone could give us collegiate success for the 3 other teams you mentioned so far to see where they may stack up.

    High Schools Producing College Athletes

    in KY Football (High School)

    Posted · Edited by Wildcat18
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    High school coaches usually have a few personal ending goals for each class/team that comes through yearly. Winning games/championships, making players better men, etc. Where does the number of college athletic commitments come into play as far as importance? I thought it would be interesting to see which Kentucky high schools produced the most college commitments for this year's 2016 class at any level. (D1, D2, D3, NAIA, etc.) Maybe get some sort of ranking of numbers per class if we accumulate enough data. How many did your school have?

     

    Pulaski County - 4. However, I expect(ed) more.

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