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I have had the good fortune to watch Mayfield play in title games at Commonwealth Stadium, Hanger Field (I think they changed the name to Roy Kidd), Old Cardinal Stadium, Papa Johns Stadium and Houchens Industries–L. T. Smith Stadium WKU. About all that is left would be Murray ( who has the facilities) and Morehead.

 

Best stadium to watch was easily WKU, best amenities was Old Cardinal Stadium due to the Executive Inn's being where all stayed from all schools and being right there at the stadium. UK was coolest just simply because it was so big and seemed at the time to be the coolest stadium. Nicest was Papa Johns.

All have their pros and cons just depends on what is most important to you. I suspect the KHSAA thinks that way to and to them the most important is likely where they can come out the best financially

Yes, KHSAA has to make a little profit but the fans have to get there, they have to find their seats with minimal hassle, they have to be comfortable, they have to be able to get out of the place, and there must be accommodations for eating and stayovers. I don't like WKU for a lot of reasons, starting with lousy parking. I don't think KHSAA knows how to run something this big. My ideal stadium is Lucas Oil in Indianapolis, with or without that dome ... if only we had something like LO in KY. And let's not talk about the Sweet 16 at Rupp ........ aaaawwwwggghhhhhhhh!

It would be a terrible environment.

I think so too, having gone to UK games there: long walk to stadium; difficulty finding parking place when crowded; a godawful odyssey once you get inside; uncomfortable bench seats. At least. So what are your reasons not to like Commonwealth?

And what's Roy Kidd like? Eastern might be great.

The most comfortable KY stadium I have been in, once seated, is Papa John's in Louisville, but oh the lousy parking, the frustration of getting in and out, the layout of the place (maybe worse than Commonwealth).

Less than 6 weeks till HS Football season. Don't know about others, but I am ready!!!

Six weeks sounds better than 41 days. But there are intrasquad games and scrimmages ... So hang on ...

I think BG is #1 for 5A right now but they lost so much last year I don't know how long their winning streak will continue.

 

The big 3 players they last last year accounted for so many TD's the last 2 years, I just don't know if they can make up for that.

 

As far as this topic goes, I never think a team should automatically be #1 if they won the year before until someone beats them only because in High School Football there is so much turnover when teams lose a lot of seniors etc.

 

Teams can be worlds apart from what they were just a year prior.

The key to continued success with any team is how many O-line and D-line starters are returning and are ready to go. The 2nd consideration is are the new guys in the line teachable. If the lines are at least teachable, then you have a good chance for a successful year. A guy can run a 3.4 40 and eat a lot of turf if no one is blocking.

Other things: senior leadership; work ethic; spirit of fun.

One area where I think a lot of high school coaches flop is not balancing their attack or at least being unpredictable. If it's a matter of not having a downfield passer, think Bill Walsh.

If the minority powers that be are successful forcing he Redskins to change their name it could start a landslide of support to change other names. In KY what schools could be on the short list? I will go first:

 

Boone County Rebels

 

What other schools would be on the short list?

What exactly is a "minority power"? Is the United Church of Christ, whose leadership supports dropping Rudeskins, a minority power? Minorities don't change anything, majorities do, coalitions do.

Disturbing...

Yeah, real funny.

SO I assume you find offense with Ole Miss, to me they are representing their culture

I assume some HS teams are as well though the Confederate Rebel might be a stretch in Kentucky where in the southern states I get it

 

Todd County Rebels come to mind, they are located along the KY-TN border

When you say the Ole Miss Rebel mascot is "representing their culture", I must ask, Whose culture? Not the culture of the slaves. Not the culture of former slaves and their descendants who suffered through segregation with its psychotic apartheid and widespread lynching. Do you think only white people have a "southern" culture. Guess again.

I'd like to see Rebels changed.

 

All remnants of traitorous scum should be wiped from the Earth.

I don't know whether I would say "traitorous scum" but Rebels has to go: what can that mascot possibly mean to African Americans except as an insult? I cringe to think that Shawn Alexander was a BC Rebel. Yuck. Besides Ky was neutral though occupied, especially because it was the largest cattle state in the US, hence fresh meat for the Federals. Also, 2/3's of Kentuckians who fought in the war were Union soldiers. All this can be googled but I am taking my data from a book that Barry Bingham, Sr., editor of the old Courier-Journal, wrote on the war.

I apologize if info has already been posted here or elsewhere. I have searched in vain. That said, does anyone know the 2014 varsity schedules for Male & Manual?

Highlands also scrimmages with Trinity at Highlands this year on Aug. 15. From 2010-12, this was a regular exhibition game with refs, 4 quarters, scores, & food & drink tents. In 2013 it was a 3-quarter game with the rest of the time being used for a number of scrimmage sets between all levels. In 2010-12, they had little time left for the kind of frosh-varsity twos/threes both teams wanted to run.

As for the sobriquet of Death Valley, how in the heck could Highlands' field be named anything else~and for a lot of reasons, foremost being the fate of visitors but also the heat in summer and fall games. Unless Pleasant Valley was meant as grim irony.

Which KY school is it that's suppose to be playing Bishop Gorman starting the 2015 season?

Lemme guess ............. Trinity?

All scott co fans need to make the trip to "The Pit" at Elder. It is a great place to watch a game. My favorite I have ever been to. Fyi the area right around Elder isn't so nice lock your doors once you are within 5 minutes of the school.

I dispute the claim that area around Elder is not nice. People have let me park on their lawns for $5, I have parked on streets up to .5 or mile away, I have wandered around & gotten good directions. We're talking good blue-collar folks. Like us. I haven't eaten there but the Cincinnati chili place across from Elder reportedly makes great sandwiches & of course there is the chili, which IMO would kill a vampire.

A BIG CAUTION: The Pit is all concrete. Bring a butt pillow or a donut if you have some troubles in your nether regions. Also BRING EAR PROTECTORS. I repeat BRING EAR PROTECTORS. Did you get that, people? EAR PROTECTORS. Elder plays deafening music before game + audio system is LOUD during.

BUT: Food, service, & locals very nice.

Like I said several seasons. If it goes beyond 5-6 season then sure. I myself can't think that far... but I know that within the last couple of season FT Highlands has lost to Cincy Elder a couple of time and St. X has lost to Cincy Moeller and Moeller has beaten Trinity along the way.... Hey good luck to Scott Co, this is their thread, not jacking it. Just wondering when the last successful KY team to beat a Cincy GCL.

History of Trinity v Cincinnati in last 4 years (Trinity's wins first)

T v Moeller (1-2)

T v Cin X (2-1)

T v Elder (3-0) ... including the worst beating Elder suffered in the fabled Pit.

T v Colerain (0-1)

Cincinnati is a great place for KY teams to play. The schools are great hosts, parking usually good, food good, atmo fabulous, home fans friendly & fun to talk to -- and they support their boys.

Michael's line gives him some seams but this kid is doing a lot on his own, slipping arm tackles, muscling away from others, & he is getting hit 2 maybe 3 times before he wiggles for more yardage or breaks it. You gotta hope colleges are looking. I have seen him play the last 2 years. The thing I can say is Michael shows up. It will be the same in college. A lunch-pail blue-collar player.

The Cincy teams never had a problem playing us when they were beating us into the ground. Now that we have had the better of them lately, they don't want to play anymore. Rationalize that.

For that matter, Male and Manual scheduled us regularly until we started gaining the upper hand. If you'd like, I can work out the data. Sample: Male played Trinity every year from our 2nd senior varsity season, 1957, thru 1976. Thru 1967, the series record was Male 10-0-1. By 1976 it was Male 10-8-2. The series resumed in 1983 in the playoffs &, except for 2 regular season games, Male saw Trinity only in the playoffs until put in the same district with the Rocks in 2011. Current record Trinity 20-14-2. Maybe those are just numbers but in support of your point, from 2010-12, Trinity went 3-0 with Elder, including one monster blowout at The Pit, and 2-1 with Cincy St. X, the last game a rough one-pt loss for X in the last 30 seconds, which included some serious pops by the Trinity D. I don't know. I just cannot see why the top-tier teams in KY wouldn't look forward to scheduling us.

Rocks,

 

Great read, appreciate you pasting the article. Very interesting stuff.

 

I find it comical that Elder and Cincy St. X have said "thanks but no thanks." Hilarious.

 

Their people complain to anyone who will listen about how hard it is for them to schedule because no one will play them. They were it on their sleeve, for crying out loud.

 

For the GCL to "duck" you is a testament to how good your program is.

I don't think the Cincinnati teams were ducking Trinity. Here are Elder's and Cincy St. X's 2013 seasons. They were not playing light teams. C St. X ended up 5-5 but still in the top 100 of MaxPreps until the last couple polls. Elder was up there too. Trinity was in the low 200s, to my great surprise (that they weren’t lower).

Cincy St. X: Ben Davis (W), Colerain (L), Brentwood Academy, TN (W), Indy Cathedral (W), Moeller (L), Elder (L), Cincinnati LaSalle (W), Indy Warren Central (L), Cleveland St. Ignatius (W), Lou St. X (L), Moeller (L)

Elder: Middletown, OH (W), Upper Arlington, OH (W), Howell, MO (W), St. Edward, OH (L), Indy

Bishop Chatard (W), Cincy St. X (W), Moeller (L), Cincy Winton Woods (W), Highlands (W), Cincy LaSalle (W), Northmont, OH (W), Moeller (L)

The only Cincinnati Catholic that played some lightweights was Moeller: CovCath, Ontario St. Michael's, & Trinity. But I think the CovCath game was a friendship game, since Moeller Coach Rodenberg formerly coached at CovCath & took them to their most recent state championship (2006). The St. Michael game, a track meet for Moeller, may have had to do with an affinity between the 2 schools plus a chance for Moeller to mentor St. Michael's in American football. Moeller & Trinity are very close too; they collaborate & share information about everything from fundraising, academic programs, student programs, etc. For that matter, T & M join with C St. X, Elder, Indy Cathedral, & Brentwood Academy & Montgomery Bell Academy in Nashville to do the same thing.

Elder & Cincy St. X may not have scheduled us because they wanted to play up, knowing we'd be mediocre in 2013. Probably, though, both teams wanted to play other good teams.

The Elder & C St. X 2014 schedules may be even tougher than last year. See C St. X then click on Elder:

St. Xavier High School (Cincinnati, OH) Football Schedule

Teach them to fear their possible playoff opponent.

Male sure sized us up pretty good last year in the reg season game & embarrassed us in the playoffs. Of course T and H are in same district, but still the principle is sound. In 2012, Rocks beat St X 34-7 in reg season then managed to escape by a point in the playoffs due to an incredible defensive effort. Yeah, James Quick was knocked out of game on T's first O series but still, they had guys who could step up. X's premier back, Charles Walker, broke his leg later on. Both teams were banged up. The truth is St. X used that reg season game to completely figure us out & they were ready.

As far as no N Ky teams goes, I will tell you that Cov Cath scheduled St X a few years back when they were tall timber - and they already play GCL teams every year. They end the home and home with Moeller this year.

Has CovCath tried to schedule Trinity lately? Or Trinity CovCath? They have played only 3 times & that was over 40 years ago, the first game of the season for Trinity from 1970 to 1972. Rocks won all 3, all looked competitive, last one was the biggest margin, 19-0, & that was the start of Trinity's 2nd state championship year.

I have a 1 word guess..... Male

I am looking forward to that game.

Re Trinity's 2014 coaching staff, I just copied this from the team page at the school site a minute ago.

-HEAD VARSITY COACH: Mr. Bob Beatty H’03

-Defensive Staff: Chad Carpenter, Jay Cobb (DC), Michael Fox, Nathan Leslie, Devian Logan '91

-Offensive Staff: Andrew Coverdale H'07 (OC), Tom Fox H'12, Pat Newman '00, Gary Owens '88, Rob Piercy

Football

Trinity- 50 wins in a row, two 3-Peats, eight Back-to-Backs and 17 Titles...

That should be 3 3-peats (1988-90; 2001-03; 2010-12) and 1 4-peat (2005-08).

Plus 22 titles.

Coach Wallace's quote in front of the Trinity broadcast team. "I will never play Trinity again!"

You mean Coach Wallace said that to our 3 football broadcasters or just within earshot? Can that be documented or was the statement heard/overheard by a few people? If you say it happened, then it happened; your veracity is solid with me. But I wonder could he have been exasperated at the time and cooled off later? If it was a policy statement, that's the AD's decision. I don't think even Coach Beatty at Trinity makes the final decision on the schedule. And the BG fans are terrific to us when we visit.

And 3 defending state champions.

 

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Plus one of the new teams, Imhotep Charter, lost in their PA division championship game. The other new team, Cocoa (FL), was knocked out of their playoffs by the #4 team in the US (per MaxPreps). We are lucky they scheduled us so we could have a 10-game season and 4 home games.

Do you really believe that Trinity hasn't tried to schedule more in state teams? They've already said that when the new alignment starts they hope Male and Manual will continue to be on the schedule. The ball is in the court of other teams in the state.

 

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I have to second All Tell here. As recently as 2010, we played Bowling Green (escaping with a 14-12 win) and by rights should be playing them every year. BG plays Louisville St. X this year plus a tough McCallie (TN) team. I don't get it. The relationship between T and BG is good, the BG fans I've talked to really like the series, but I guess something isn't working out. Highlands seems not to want to play us in the regular season but this summer we will play our 5th straight exhibition game (4 qtrs, score, refs, game speed) with them. We should be playing Scott Co., Meade Co., and a number of others. Rock fans would love it.

Trinity offered to cover transportation costs for many Kentucky schools in attempt to gain a home and home series.

 

Odds are Male and Manual will opt not to play after 2014. The "new" district opponents Trinity will face in 2015 have very little football tradition and even less support from their school communities. I guess one option will be for Trinity and St X to increase their ticket prices for their annual battle. :scared:

I hate to throw this number into the conversation but Trinity's combined record against her new 2015 district opponents (Ballard, Seneca, Eastern, and J'town) is 111-9. The average score in these 120 games is 34-9. Whoever came up with this district arrangement but then kept Male, Manual, and St. X together in another district is a flipping genius. Didn't somebody say this is crazy and we better change it?