Green guy

No shame In this game for Highlands.

 

They're going to be tough for anyone in kentucky.

To support your point, in the 2012 scrimmage game, the Rocks' ones left the game for good near end of 2Q with a 55-0 lead. Game leveled out in 2nd half with twos, threes, and fours playing. BUT my support point is this: in their 2nd regular season game, Highlands smeared Scott Co. 60-37. Trinity faced Scott Co. in the 6A semifinals & trailed 14-0 with 8:00 left in 4Q before pulling off an astonishing comeback. Of course by that time in the season, everybody had evolved but the data suggest that entering what turned out to be another championship season, Highlands was combat-ready. There is more context but the point is valid that the Birds learnt fast, going 14-1, the lone loss a narrow one to Elder & finishing with another 4A title and a 99th place national ranking in the MaxPreps Freeman computer ranking (Trinity was 11th).

Actually you have accomplished a great deal. The X and T fans are united on this issue!

For real!

X wins Varsity game 14 to 7. 4th down pass incomplete in the endzone. JV playing the 4th quarter. SK looks really good passing on X.

I assume the varsity game was 4 timed quarters, scoreboard, refs, penalties, like an official game. Right?

How much do you think we win by? I'm guessing 21

My guess, and mind you it is just a hunch, my guess is Rocks win by 25.

Outside of Cincy Moeller & Indy Cathedral, I truly believe that defense last night will be the best defense our offense faces all year, the quality depth of upper classmen at Dline & LB is staggering, playing the best athletes both ways has solved the defensive backfield & oline issues & the energy level, excitement & intensity on the defensive side of the ball is sky high, the new defensive coaching staff has really cranked it up. Get ready for a fun fun year, can't wait till Friday at Highlands!!

Just Cathedral & Moe? I dunno. We may have our toughest schedule ever. All of our opponents are rated in at least one of the state polls by PrepNation.com and NationalHighSchoolFootball.com. PN-HSFB: Ensworth (TN)1-4; Carmel (IN) 1-2; Imhotep (PA) 5-5; Colerain (OH) 11-nr; Cocoa (FL) 9-8; Indianapolis Cathedral nr-6; St Xavier nr-5; Manual 4-4; Male 1-1; Moeller (OH) 2-2. Fascinating, as Mr Spock would say:

I was told that Brooks and 5 or 6 others (don't know if on D or O) were not going to play. I thought the passing game looked improved. I thought the excitement level was high as shown by some hard hitting.

Brooks was in for perhaps 5 offensive plays. Caught a long td pass, ran 10y thru rugged D for another, ripped off a long run to 1. On Aug 6, Beatty said Brooks was a little too dinged for the Green-White but he evidently felt chipper enough to get in for a few plays. The Highlands scrimmage (at Highlands) will answer a lot of questions ~ and doubtless pose others. Interesting: in the G-W, some players played at least one O and one D position.

In general, I feel like the folks on BGP gave Trinity a pass for their subpar season (based on their standards) last season. Will the natives get restless if Coach Beatty and the 2014 Rocks start the season meekly?

No. There's always some rectums who holler and groan and moan but none of the grown-ups. Bob is there forever and with full administration support. Which is what the administration says too. And everybody knows that some very young mistakes cost us a better season, eg, in the Ensworth game; when Reggie Bonnafon, now doing well in first practices at UofL, couldn't deal with the cramping in his hands any longer, Ryan Young came in and threw the gamewinning td ... which was dropped. Kids play h/s ball not pros. The game with 3-7 Lawrence Central was one of those games from hell where nothing goes right but LC, despite their record, was a sound team & good group of guys. Then we beat the eventual Indiana 6A runner-up Carmel (lost to Warren Central in final 7-6) and the Indiana 5A four-peater Indianapolis Cathedral. Then the embarrassments against Male (twice) and Colerain and Moeller. An almost totally new set of D coaches should help improve that area. It will be a better season and the Rocks will be loads of fun to watch. Also the grub at the concessions is pretty good.

Numbers wise-around 65. Heights and weights are not available yet.

Last night (Aug 6) Beatty said the freshman team has 80 guys.

Personal reason or not at the end of the day it is none of our business why he chose to make the decision he did. That's between him and the KHSAA whether or not he gets to play and if he is ruled eligible then they obviously did everything that was needed to do to become eligible and that is all that matters.

 

Everything else is speculation, accusations and entertaining discussion.

I wish we hadn't started this thread at all, and for the reasons you say. We're prying into business that is not ours. The issue is ~ but not the kid. Too late now.

I disagree. Our society is way too sports crazed. Even with all the obstacles someone has to jump through, we see families and kids changing schools, moving the entire family, etc. for what ... so a kid can play high school football or basketball somewhere else? It is pathetic if you ask me. I love sports as much if not more than the next person but I think all this transferring and changing schools for what they think is a better sports situation is a joke. If you make it so anyone can change schools any time they want, there will be kids moving every time they get benched or some sweet talking coach tells them they will be a star at their school.

You raise a few interesting questions.

One, how many families can afford to move into a district and would just so a child can play sports?

Two, the case under discussion involves a person moving from a public school to a private school, in this case where the AY14-15 in-diocese tuition/fees are $7777 and the out-of-diocese t/f are $8,452 (Covington Catholic High School: Tuition & Assistance). Like most private schools, CC has a tuition-assistance program but the % of need-based aid given a qualified family won't be 100% but a lot lower. Louisville Trinity pays a little over 60% and they may have the best program in the country. Also, as another link to the one above states, you pay a serious penalty if you are enrolled then transfer to another school. We're talking a lot of cash one way or other.

Third, the environment, services, and programs at another school may better serve a student than what he currently experiences.

I think parents/guardians should be able to move their children freely for whatever reason they choose. Teachers, administrators, etc are allowed to change schools or school systems. When the KHSAA was founded , AGE was their main concern for eligibility, NOT where a child lived or attended school.

There was another concern too: skin color.

The schools aren't forced to join the khsaa.

Of course not. And there have been times in living memory when the KHSAA refused to admit certain schools.

I've always found in interesting that in a free society, schools and organizations can claim possession of someone's athletic rights.

Freedom does not mean no rules. The first rule of freedom is that you must surrender autonomy (self-law) in some areas so you can have it in others.

Yep. In the end, I just don't see who is hurt by these transfers, whether it's for sports reasons or not. Do I like it?? No. I think when you've made a commitment to a program, you should see it through. But who is the KHSAA (or anyone besides the family) to say what is a legitimate reason.

Does your logic apply to the head coach? Maybe a kid with a choice chooses a school because he likes the coach, then the coach goes to another school that recruited him with a salary increase and some perks.

With the talent getting better and better in the state, as well as the competition is anyone else wondering why there is not a magazine solely for high school football?

Are you thinking an ezine or hardcopy or both? We have embryonic models for ezines, like the Louisville Catholic Sports Network's regular updates; they have a tiny budget now & must be selective but it still is worth looking at. I miss LCSN's 3-5 minute highlight tubes; now it seems they do only the Trinity-St Xavier game plus a few others, and of course there are many sports each season. Question: what would a football magazine/ezine do in the off-season?

Will Stein and Cam Smyth both started as seniors w/o startling as juniors or sophomores and I believe the team did fine. As for Bonnafon, it's tough to argue any of the other QBs in the program starting over him. As for starting a non-senior to prepare for the future, see Brohm, Petrino and Wright! I think Beatty knows what he's doing!

Trinity in the Beatty years (2000 on) has started and subbed with the best players, regardless of class. Beatty has taken some big risks too, as with the very short QB Nick Petrino in 2005-06, a risk at least in others' eyes when there were talented, taller, and older players; in hindsight, Beatty looks like a genius for going with Nick but that's hindsight for you. Nick repaid Beatty's faith by leading Trinity to some of its greatest victories, over St X in the 2005 4A game and Male in the 2006 quarterfinals. I know Beatty's former defensive coordinator talked about guys "putting in their time" as a way to earn a starting position but there were so many great D players who started as sophs, eg, Sam Robey, Jordan Whiting, Wes Weitlauf, & many others. Canon Marshall who will likely start as safety this year started last year and played a lot in 2012. Conner Foos, who started last year, will be a D beast this year as a junior. Last year there were only ca 20 seniors, most of whom didn't start, except for guys like Reggie Bonafon (who had played previous years as a flanker, occasionally as QB) and Cody Swabek, a starter since his soph year. And this year the Rocks have too much talent from the 2013 frosh and jv teams to tell 'em to wait: a combined 16-1 record mostly against the younger counterparts of the varsity's opponents, eg, Moeller, Colerain, Carmel, Ind. Cathedral. Also seniors have occasionally quit the team when replaced by a better underclassman. Beatty's famous line is "Every practice is a job interview."

I'm not sure how much you can tell from 7 on 7, but the DBs were playing much tighter than last year. They also lost a couple of receivers. Too many dropped passes, some missed receivers, but all in all, not bad.

What do you mean "lost a couple of receivers"? Were they injured? How bad?

1. The Male team in '02 was unbelievable. I was a sophomore in HS and I was talking with my Dad about the game and told him Male would win because of they had the best player on the field in Michael Bush.

 

2. 2005 St. X. That game was a shocker. An X team that had dominated during the regular season and seemed to play like they had already won the game after they scored on their opening drive.

 

3. Toss up between 2007 and 2008 X teams. Comments can be made about what happened and why X was not able to knock off the Rocks in the playoffs, but at the end of the day... it is tough to beat a good team 2 times in one season. Especially a team that knows you almost as well as you know yourself.

I saw the 2002 shootout between Trinity & Male & still can't understand how Trinity beat that Male talent, Brohm or no Brohm. I have since watched my dvd & still can't figure it out. Google and you'll find it on youtube. Male had that big O & D line, were fast, & had true D1 talent. If anything, it was that Male 9-in-the-box defense that Brohm exploited. Unreal. The 2006 Trinity-Male game was also a stunner: Male was super-loaded with talent, I don't think Trinity could match them there, yet little Tim Phillips popped some long ones & Nick Petrino had some great targets. But Trinity never should have beaten Male, based on talent. It was coaching & a last-second maneuver by the Trinity safety coming up on the Male QB at the 1 in the last .06 secs that capped it.

The biggest shocker is Boone never winning a championship. State runner ups in 86', 87', 92', and 94'. They made it to the semi finals also in 83', 88', 89', 90', 93', and 97'. They might have thrown 20 passes in all of those games combined.

That may be the reason they never won: predictability. In 94 Trinity's D line knew Shaun was coming their way and in the second half pancaked to block the running lanes & let the linebackers stop him. That was Dennis Lampley's strategy to enable his not so great Rocks to beat a great runner with a great line. In the second half, Shaun had more running attempts than yards. Sidebar: in that 21-7 Trinity win, Rob Bironas (now of Tennessee Titans) attempted 3 field goals, one a chip shot, and missed all three.

The tipping of the hat occurred in his last win against Trinity at the state championship game in Bowling Green.

 

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The hat-tipping incident came in the 2009 6A game after X scored a late td on a fake field goal. Scoring late is fine, it was the Rocks' job to stop them, but Glaser then tipped his cap to the Trinity bench and fans. I never understood that. Hard to figure what he was trying to say. Just not right. Glaser then ripped off 6 straight losses to Trinity in 2010, 2011, 2012, the last of the 6 putting the Rocks ahead in the series for the first time ever. The Rocks' 2013 win gave them the series lead by two.

Great stories ......... more!!!

Quite possibly the stupidest post I have ever read.

Why?

Newport Catholic and Covington Holy Cross don't have home fields as far as I know.

Until a few years ago, Louisville St Xavier did not have a home field; they played home games usually at old Manual Stadium. When they couldn't interest Manual to sell the field to them so they could upgrade it, St X finally built their own. They did have the property to squeeze in a field with track.

"Also that completely leaves people who want to attend all the games out in the cold." Exactly, PepRock01!

Also, I started this thread because I know the KHSAA has soured some on Western. Personally, I hope it stays at WKU because I think it makes for a better environment that Papa Johns did or Commonwealth perhaps would.

What do you mean by "better environment"? The neighborhood?