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Larry Warner
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I'm more worried about the ever growing mindset of those against the government than the actual government.
So you are saying you do believe in Ronald Reagan's war on blac...I mean war on drugs? Drug laws have done more to hurt the balck community than gun laws.
Drug laws hurt the black community? I thought people using drugs hurt their community. Surely you would blame the hurt on those that use rather than the laws against the use.
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So what are the standards men have to meet?
This is for the Marines:
AGE 17-26: 18%
AGE 27-39: 19%
AGE 40-45: 20%
AGE 46+ :21%
FEMALE
AGE 17-26: 26%
AGE 27-39: 27%
AGE 40-45: 28%
AGE 46+: 29%
CO. All PFT events will be conducted in a single session, not to exceed 2 hours in duration. Movement of Marines from one event to the next should allow adequate time to recover, stretch, and drink water.
Pull-up. The goal of the pull-up event is for the Marine to execute as many accurate and complete pull-ups before dropping off the bar. The procedures are:
(1) This is not a timed event.
(2) Sweatshirts will be removed during the conduct of the pull-up event in order to observe the lockout of the elbows with each repetition.
(3) Assistance to the bar with a step up, being lifted up, or jumping up is authorized. Any assistance up to the bar will not be used to continue into the first pull-up.
(4) The bar must be grasped with both palms facing either forward or to the rear.
(5) The correct starting position begins when the Marine’s arms are fully extended beneath the bar, feet are free from touching the ground or any bar mounting assist, and the body is motionless.
(6) The Marine’s legs may be positioned in a straight or bent position, but may not be raised above the waist.
(7) One repetition consists of raising the body with the arms until the chin is above the bar, and then lowering the body until the arms are fully extended; repeat the exercise. At no time during the execution of this event can a Marine rest his chin on the bar.
(8) The intent is to execute a vertical “dead hang” pull-up. A certain amount of inherent body movement will occur as the pull-up is executed. However, the intent is to avoid a pendulum-like motion that enhances the ability to execute the pull-up. Whipping, kicking, kipping of the body or legs, or any leg movement used to assist in the vertical progression of the pull-up is not authorized. If observed, the repetition will not count for score.
(9) A repetition will be counted when an accurate and complete pull-up is performed.
Abdominal Crunch. The goal of the abdominal crunch event is for a Marine to execute as many proper and complete crunches within the prescribed time limit. The procedures are:
(1) 2-minute time limit.
(2) On a flat surface, Marines will lie flat on their back with shoulder blades touching the deck, knees will be bent, and both feet will be flat on the deck.
(3) The arms will be folded across the chest or rib cage with no gap existing between the arms and chest/rib cage. Both arms must remain in constant contact with chest/rib cage throughout the exercise. A single repetition consists of raising the upper body from the starting position until both forearms or elbows simultaneously touch the thighs, and then returning to the starting position with the shoulder blades touching the deck.
(4) The buttocks will remain in constant contact with the deck throughout the event. No arching of the lower back or lifting the buttocks is permitted.
(5) An assistant may be used to hold a Marine's legs or feet, at or below the knees in whatever manner that is most comfortable for the Marine. Kneeling or sitting on the Marine’s feet is permitted.
(6) A repetition will be counted when an accurate and complete abdominal crunch is performed.
3.0 Mile Run. The goal is for a Marine to complete the measured course as quickly as possible. The procedures are:
(1) This is a timed event.
(2) On the command to start, the two Marines monitoring the event will start their watches simultaneously when the last Marine passes the starting point. The Command PT Representative will remain at the start/finish and the other monitor will take the safety vehicle (with communication capabilities) to the halfway point. Monitors will call out the split or finishing time as appropriate, as each Marine passes.
Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test Points - Male
Points Pull-Ups Crunches 3-Mile Run
100 20 100 18:00
99 99 18:10
98 98 18:20
97 97 18:30
96 96 18:40
95 19 95 18:50
94 94 19:00
93 93 19:10
92 92 19:20
91 91 19:30
90 18 90 19:40
89 89 19:50
88 88 20:00
87 87 20:10
86 86 20:20
85 17 85 20:30
84 84 20:40
83 83 20:50
82 82 21:00
81 81 21:10
80 16 80 21:20
79 79 21:30
78 78 21:40
77 77 21:50
76 76 22:00
75 15 75 22:10
74 74 22:20
73 73 22:30
72 72 22:40
71 71 22:50
70 14 70 23:00
69 69 23:10
68 68 23:20
67 67 23:30
66 66 23:40
65 13 65 23:50
64 64 24:00
63 63 24:10
62 62 24:20
61 61 24:30
60 12 60 24:40
59 59 24:50
58 58 25:00
57 57 25:10
56 56 25:20
55 11 55 25:30
54 54 25:40
53 53 25:50
52 52 26:00
51 51 26:10
50 10 50 26:20
49 49 26:30
48 48 26:40
47 47 26: 50
46 46 27:00
45 9 45 27:10
44 44 27:20
43 43 27:30
42 42 27:40
41 41 27:50
40 8 40 28:00
39 x 28:10
38 x 28:20
37 x 28:30
36 x 28:40
35 7 x 28:50
34 x 29:00
33 x 29:10
32 x 29:20
31 x 29:30
30 6 x 29:40
29 x 29:50
28 x 30:00
27 x 30:10
26 x 30:20
25 5 x 30:30
24 x 30:40
23 x 30:50
22 x 31:00
21 x 31:10
20 4 x 31:20
19 x 31:30
18 x 31:40
17 x 31:50
16 x 32:00
15 3 x 32:10
14 x x 32:20
13 x x 32:30
12 x x 32:40
11 x x 32:50
10 x x 33:00
9 x x x
8 x x x
7 x x x
6 x x x
5 x x x
4 x x x
3 x x x
2 x x x
1 x x x
* Round up all values (e.g., 18:01 to 18:09 equals 99 points)
In order to pass the semi-annual fitness test, Marines must perform the minimum acceptable performance requirements shown in the chart below. Additionally, they must have enough overall points to meet the 3rd class fitness requirements (see below).
Minimum Fitness Requirments for Each PFT Event - Males
Age Pull-Ups Crunches 3-Mile Run
17-26 3 50 28:00
27-39 3 45 29:00
40-45 3 45 30:00
46+ 3 40 33:00
Marine Corps PFT Classification Scores - Male and Female
Class Age 17-26 Age 27-39 Age 40-45 Age 46+
1st 225 200 175 150
2nd 175 150 125 100
3rd
Sequence of Events. The sequence of PFT events will be left to the discretion of the CO. All PFT events will be conducted in a single session, not to exceed 2 hours in duration. Movement of Marines from one event to the next should allow adequate time to recover, stretch, and drink water.
Flexed-Arm Hang. The goal of the flexed-arm hang event is for a Marine to hang (maintain elbow flexion) for as long as possible. The procedures are:
1) This is a timed event.
(2) Sweatshirts will be removed during the conduct of the flexed-arm hang event in order to observe when the Marine has completely locked-out her elbows.
(3) Assistance to the bar with a step up, being lifted up, or jumping up to the start position is authorized.
(4) The bar must be grasped with both palms facing either forward or to the rear.
(5) The correct starting position begins when the Marine’s arms are flexed at the elbow, the chin is held above the bar and not touching it, and the body is motionless. At no time during the execution of this event can a Marine rest her chin on the bar.
(6) Marines are authorized to drop down below the bar, however, some degree of elbow flexion must be maintained with both arms. Once a Marine's arms are fully extended or the Marine drops off the bar, the clock will stop.
Abdominal Crunch. The goal of the abdominal crunch event is for a Marine to execute as many proper and complete crunches within the prescribed time limit. The procedures are:
(1) 2-minute time limit.
(2) On a flat surface, Marines will lie flat on their back with shoulder blades touching the deck, knees will be bent, and both feet will be flat on the deck.
(3) The arms will be folded across the chest or rib cage with no gap existing between the arms and chest/rib cage. Both arms must remain in constant contact with chest/rib cage throughout the exercise. A single repetition consists of raising the upper body from the starting position until both forearms or elbows simultaneously touch the thighs, and then returning to the starting position with the shoulder blades touching the deck.
(4) The buttocks will remain in constant contact with the deck throughout the event. No arching of the lower back or lifting the buttocks is permitted.
(5) An assistant may be used to hold a Marine's legs or feet, at or below the knees in whatever manner that is most comfortable for the Marine. Kneeling or sitting on the Marine’s feet is permitted.
(6) A repetition will be counted when an accurate and complete abdominal crunch is performed.
3.0 Mile Run. The goal is for a Marine to complete the measured course as quickly as possible. The procedures are:
(1) This is a timed event.
(2) On the command to start, the two Marines monitoring the event will start their watches simultaneously when the last Marine passes the starting point. The Command PT Representative will remain at the start/finish and the other monitor will take the safety vehicle (with communication capabilities) to the halfway point. Monitors will call out the split or finishing time as appropriate, as each Marine passes.
Marine Corps Physical Fitness Test Points - Female
Points Flexed-Arm Hang Crunches 3-Mile Run
100 70 sec 100 21:00
99 99 21:10
98 69 sec 98 21:20
97 97 21:30
96 68 sec 96 21:40
95 95 21:50
94 67 sec 94 22:00
93 93 22:10
92 66 sec 92 22:20
91 91 22:30
90 65 sec 90 22:40
89 89 22:50
88 64 sec 88 23:00
87 87 23:10
86 63 sec 86 23:20
85 85 23:30
84 62 sec 84 23:40
83 83 23:50
82 61 sec 82 24:00
81 81 24:10
80 60 sec 80 24:20
79 79 24:30
78 59 sec 78 24:40
77 77 24:50
76 58 sec 76 25:00
75 75 25:10
74 57 sec 74 25:20
73 73 25:30
72 56 sec 72 25:40
71 71 25:50
70 55 sec 70 26:00
69 69 26:10
68 54 sec 68 26:20
67 67 26:30
66 53 sec 66 26:40
65 65 26: 50
64 52 sec 64 27:00
63 63 27:10
62 51 sec 62 27:20
61 61 27:30
60 50 sec 60 27:40
59 59 27:50
58 49 sec 58 28:00
57 57 28:10
56 48 sec 56 28:20
55 55 28:30
54 47 sec 54 28:40
53 53 28:50
52 46 sec 52 29:00
51 51 29:10
50 45 sec 50 29:20
49 49 29:30
48 44 sec 48 29:40
47 47 29:50
46 43 sec 46 30:00
45 45 30:10
44 42 sec 44 30:20
43 43 30:30
42 41 sec 42 30:40
41 41 30:50
40 40 sec 40 31:00
39 39 sec x 31:10
38 38 sec x 31:20
37 37 sec x 31:30
36 36 sec x 31:40
35 35 sec x 31:50
34 34 sec x 32:00
33 33 sec x 32:10
32 32 sec x 32:20
31 31 sec x 32:30
30 30 sec x 32:40
29 29 sec x 32:50
28 28 sec x 33:00
27 27 sec x 33:10
26 26 sec x 33:20
25 25 sec x 33:30
24 24 sec x 33:40
23 23 sec x 33:50
22 22 sec x 34:00
21 21 sec x 34:10
20 20 sec x 34:20
19 19 sec x 34:30
18 18 sec x 34:40
17 17 sec x 34:50
16 16 sec x 35:00
15 15 sec x 35:10
14 x x 35:20
13 x x 35:30
12 x x 35:40
11 x x 35:50
10 x x 36:00
9 x x x
8 x x x
7 x x x
6 x x x
5 x x x
4 x x x
3 x x x
2 x x x
1 x x x
*Round up all values (e.g., 21:01 to 21:09 equals 99 points)
In order to pass the semi-annual fitness test, Marines must perform the minimum acceptable performance requirements shown in the chart below for their age-group. Additionally, they must have enough overall points to meet the 3rd class fitness requirements (see below).
Minimum Fitness Requirments for Each PFT Event - Females
Age Flexed-Arm Hang Crunches 3-Mile Run
17-26 15 Seconds 50 31:00
27-39 15 Seconds 45 32:00
40-45 15 Seconds 45 33:00
46+ 15 Seconds 40 36:00
Marine Corps PFT Classification Scores - Male and Female
Class Age 17-26 Age 27-39 Age 40-45 Age 46+
1st 225 200 175 150
2nd 175 150 125 100
3rd 135 110 88 65
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To drive my point home further about the violent world of Danville, KY, where 3 special trained ninjas will invade your home and dodge bullets like Vince Vaughn in Dodgeball, a cop was in a speed trap at 12:30am on a Saturday night. There's just so much to fear in Danville, Ky that I need AK-47s to fend off the criminals.
You live in a community that has one of the highest police presence per citizen in the state. I lived there for a while myself. You seem very safe, but you have NO WAY of knowing what could happen to you at any time. Communities like Danville are always surprised when someone faces a violent crime. However, violent crime still happens in those type of communities all the time. Also, Danville does have an ever growing drug problem, just like the rest of the U.S. I suppose.
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Then what is the point of having cops if we can arm ourselves better than the local police department? Why not just take care of ourselves and our families?
The use of the police is very clear. Beyond catching traffic violation, they are there to investigate and catch criminals after they have committed crimes, to deter crime with their presence, and handle crowd control and hostage situations. They are never going to be in place to protect me or my family at the second I need one. I simply don't have them posted at my home, in my car, or with my family. I have to rely on that myself. As far as my post about being as well armed as they are, I feel that way because they are not armed with technology that shouldn't be afforded the public. They simply don't have the resources of the military. Yes, I should be able to have the same weapons that they use, and frankly I do. I would say many police officers would rather have some of the weapons I own than the ones they have been issued.
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LOL at this statement!
Well by god, I should be able to have a missile in my backyard! Tell me why not?! 2nd Amendment doesn't say anything about me not being allowed to have it! I'm just bearing arms.
Nice, open minded, educated statement. I am sure that you know exactly what arms police have, so I am sure you know what I am talking about:rolleyes: Everything the police have should be without a doubt available to private, law abiding citizens. The police don't use explosives Jack. Of course the missle comparison is ridiculous.
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No. I am asking which is the most important. Not all men are physically able either. Not all men are mentally able. I don't know what the physical requirements are for men. Let's say dude #1 is 5-6 and 155. Is he less able than Dude #2 at 6-3, 280 simply because of his size?
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That is why they base their physical attributes on things like pull ups, running times, and so on.
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You don't have to be an intellectual to be mentally strong. I don't want a "big strong manly man" next to me in combat if he can't handle the mental pressures associated with combat. He'll not be having my back. And, frankly, I don't want a macho man next to me who is doubting me because of my gender.
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The ability to make well thought out decisions quickly certainly helps in combat. If conducted properly, basic training creates mental toughness. However, although it will develop the physical, some people have a body that will not allow them to get to certain physical standards. For instance, I would want everyone in my unit to be strong enough to carry me out of a danger zone if I was wounded. That is why physical standards should be the same. I think you will find that many female soldiers would prefer the person next to them to be extremely capable, reguardless of their "machoism."
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What are the ratios of criminal on criminal homicides vs. Criminal on non-criminal in each state or non-criminal on non-criminal? What about city comparisons? Texas and California are very different. It's not just about the numbers.
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You are correct. Texas has a CCDW law and California has multiple cities with heavy gun control. Otherwise their populations and ethnic diversities are almost identical.
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Simply cannot be definitively proven that they deter crime. You think a criminal is deterred by a hypothetical?
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There is a statisical link in every single state RM. Every state that has instituded CCDW has had a signifigant decrease in violent crime since the program's inception. Are you really trying to claim that fact isn't statistically significant? Look at the major cities with the heaviest forms of gun control and compare their crime rates with large cities who have CCDW permits. The statistics are astounding. Do you think these links are simple coincidence?
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Disagree. I am very strong mentally. Physically, I am Randy Parker. I am definitely one you want in your corner when you need someone who keeps their wits about them. But I can't lift a Humvee off you. So, my question remains....
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Therefore, I wouldn't want you with me in combat. I think if you are talking about an enlisted soldier, the military considers the physical more important in combat, since their physical standards could be considered much higher than their intellectual standards that they require for enlistment.
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What does CCDW stand for?
Concealed Carry Deadly Weapons. It is the license that many states allow civilians to obtain to legally carry a concealed weapon.
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Not.
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Then please find me one statistic that logically supports gun controll. Show me one in our nation where any form of gun control can be linked to reduced violent crime rates. I can show you multiple places where increased CCDW permits and increased gun ownership has been linked to drastically reduced violent crime rates. Gun control doesn't make sense and it is unconstitutional.
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You are wasting your time Marvel. Statistics show that increased gun ownership reduces violent crime. That can't be argued. People who are for gun control are not thinking logically. They are thinking with misinformed emotions.
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Wrong. I 'support' the Amendment and the right to bear arms. I am not going to 'defend' that Amendment as a reason to set up a fifth branch of the military and I am not going to 'defend' that Amendment just because someone wants 22 bullets in their magazine.
You are trying to make the amendment say something that it doesn't. Read it again. "The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I guess we need to look at the definition of infringe. in·fringe [ in frínj ] 1.disobey or disregard something: to fail to obey a law or regulation or observe the terms of an agreement
2.encroach on somebody's rights or property: to take over land, rights, privileges, or activities that belong to somebody else, especially in a minor or gradual way
Synonyms: encroach on, intrude on, interfere with, impinge on, trespass, invade, overstep.
Are you still saying that you support the second Amendment?
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Who said take them out? I said one bullet per person. You telling me if I hit one in the leg, one in the arm and one in the chest I'll need more bullets? What if I fire one shot and they all leave? I think to assume that I would even need to shoot someone to protect my home displays a high level of ignorance in not knowing how my home is protected in the first place. The demand to be armed like the military strikes me as one of the most ignorant things a citizen can say.
Once again, that was the clear intent of the second Amendment. If people want to change it, they need to make another Amendment. Every expert in defense weapons training will tell you that wounded people fire weapons, and you should always shoot until your target is completely down. The need to shoot someone for protection is no doubt rare, yet the need presents itself somewhere in this nation every day.
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I believe in responsible gun ownership with appropriate registrations and training. I have no problems with hand guns for personal protection or sport weapons. Semi automatic weapons is another deal all together. These weapons have no place in civilian society. Furthermore, I find the resistance by the NRA to the proliferation of these weapons both revealing and disturbing. I don't believe the NRA is about 2nd amendment protection at all. They are simply a lobby of the gun industry , and their only interest is the bottom line. The rest is spin , misdirection and manipulation.
I believe the NRA to be an enabler of domestic terrorism.
I think that is one of the most ridiculous statements that I have ever heard. Once again, I will return to the fact that to change an amendment should take a 3/4 majority. The NRA is certainly about the second Amendment. Some citizens of this nation simply hate the fact that the amendment does protect our right to bear arms, not bear arms that they think we should be allowed to bear. Until you get your 3/4 majority and make a new amendment, you have no right to impose any type of gun control. Doing so is in violation of the Constitution. Its a shame that you think legal gun owners are domestic terrorist.
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You will have to forgive my ignorance, but what do a set of dots mean Truthbtold?
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One per person. If three break in that's three bullets.
The likelyhood of taking out three intruders with three bullets is extremely small, even with the most advanced training. To think otherwise is exhibiting a high level of ignorance concerning statistics dealing with defense situations.
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Not being a person who seeks out combat, how much of one's success in combat is physical vs. mental?
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One goes hand in hand with the other. One is as important as the other. High standards in one leads to high standards in the other.
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IMO this whole gun control push is such a dynamic situation. Let me state I am against gun control and all for the 2nd Amendment.
However, as someone who has a CCDW license but no gun yet I can't help but be confused about some the stances people are taking in defending the right to own whatever gun you want to own. People say I want to protect my family. Does it really take an AK-47 to protect your family? Does it really take magazine with 22 bullets in it to protect your family? And let me also say I understand the hunter's perspective on the issue and I do believe that hunters shouldn't be restricted from purchasing guns they have always been allowed to purchase but even if some guns were restricted will you really not be able to hunt anymore? Will your kill ratio suffer or something? Guns are instruments designed to kill. Not to shoot clay pigeons. Not to shoot at gun ranges. These are instruments of death. I will be purchsing a gun because my wife is paranoid that someone is going to rob us and that's cool. I'll buy a gat and keep it close by just in case somebody wants to steal my tv but if not for her and her gun loving, gun toting family I probably wouldn't buy one. Never needed one in 38 years of life and I doubt I'll get to kill anyone before I die so a gun is useless to me in my life and lifestyle. I'm just trying to truly understand why people are so bent up in arms for possibly not being allowed to arm themselves like the military anymore. Should the citizens really be armed like the military? Should my neighbor have a better arsenal than the police department? And don't give me that protect ourselves from the government crap either. The Civil War is over. Isn't it?
I wish weed was legal and I understand it isn't a constitutional amendment but I still conform to the laws of the land even if I don't agree with them. Just got another speeding ticket the other day. Back to traffic school to work on my Masters. I guess what I am saying is the world is changing daily and if the government decides my gat can only hold 6 bullets then I am fine with that because if I have to use it then I'll only use one bullet anyways.
To answer a couple of questions, yes, I should be able to be as well armed as a foot soldier in the Military. The fact is that it is already against the law for me to be that well armed. Yes, I should certainly be as well armed as the police. This is an amendment to the Constitution, no different than any other. People are trying to impose their will on this amendment by other means than our founders ever wanted. It is very easy. It takes an amendment to change an amendment. Get together a 3/4 majority, and you can institute gun control. If that happened, I would be willing to do so. Any other means is an effort of tyranny by a small majority, and I will instantly become a criminal the second someone tries to take away one of my Constitutionally guaranteed rights through these means.
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Why would anyone wand the Dunbar job???
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Thnaks for the education guys. Based on the above info, I am OK with a clip limit of 12. I don't think it should be less than 10.
A Glock 17 Holds 17 rds in its base factory clip that is completely in the handle.
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No, the question isn't DID they have cannons, it is COULD they have owned cannons. My guess is yes they could. If you go back to when the Bill of Rights was written there is little question that there was a strong feeling that the individuals or individual states might need to act against an overreaching Federal government. For the same reason, many of the founders were opposed to a standing federal army. We settled a lot of those questions in the civil war. Like it or not, states and individuals cannot decide that a law overreaches and nullify it. Like it or not, arming citizens so that they can resist the federal government is a prescription for national suicide. Our recourse against an overreaching government is now at the ballot box. Anything else is anarchy.You are incorrect. Our founding father's made it very clear, to disable tyranny of the majority, that an amendment requires a three fourths vote. Circumventing this process to change rights guaranteed in the constitution is tyranny. Our founders were very clear on what to do with tyranny.
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Was there anyone with a weapon at Gabrielle Gifford's shooting? There were 13 I think hit when he emptied his 33 round magazine from his pistol.Yes there were, which makes those figures even more astounding. The average is slightly over two with eighteen occurring at that one event where someone shot into a crowd. On scene armed personnel simply save lives. There is no way to measure how many shootings they have deterred.
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How did any laws target a minority? Are you saying that African Americans have been falsely jailed for drug crimes since the 80's. I thought all of those laws applied to all citizens. If people don't want to be arrested for drug charges, they shouldn't be involved in drugs.