Larry Warner

Has nothing to do with morals so much as a lack of real opportunity. What do you expect folks to do when they failed to win the birth lottery and they're trapped in a decaying urban hell with no options for bettering themselves because all the jobs left decades ago? To be fair, these same problems affect white folks in rural hell -- i.e., places such as Eastern Kentucky. And it's getting worse there, and not going to get any better when you consider the coal jobs aren't coming back. It's easy to have "morals" when things always go your way. The game changes when desperation sets in, and for many folks desperation has become a generational thing.

 

Of course, in the thread I posted regarding King Coal, nobody seems to want to address that bogeyman -- especially folks from Eastern Ky. -- but they're happy to point fingers at "welfare queens" and "gangstas" in the 'hood, complaining about "cultural decay" while being conspicuously silent about the ills affecting their white-trash brethren.

 

To paraphrase Chris Rock: It ain't right for folks to act out the way they do, but I understand.

Take advantage of your free public education, go to school, attend college, graduate, and move. I know many who have done just those things. Acting like breaking the law is the only option is ridiculous. It is the easiest option.

http://nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20130227/NEWS0103/302270187/?nclick_check=1

 

Can someone please post information on conceal and carry permits and hand gun training? This is a serious inquiry.

 

This is Federal Sequestration going into effect.

Why worry?? Your President will keep you safe. Safety and security of Americans are his top priorities.

This is simply an act trying to hold Americans hostage by threatening their domestic security. Why not cut entitlement programs. Prisoner release should not be an option for cuts.

Great post!!! Dale Mueller built Highlands into the program it is today. The year before he got to Highlands, they lost in the second round of the playoffs to Conner and there were only about 30 players on the Highlands football team. The tradition was always there, but he took Highlands to a new level.

Are you saying Highlands was down? Conner lost to Cov that year who won state 7-3. The previous season before that loss Highlands won state. Dale has built Highlands into something bigger than it was before he got there, but lets not act like Highlands was down when he took over the program.

Yep! That's why individual rights exist because opinions differ.

Why should a child in a womb not have individual rights. A woman's individual rights should end when it impedes on the rights of her unborn child. Why is abortion not murder when our court system honors it as a double murder when someone kills a pregnant woman? Another source of irony.

It's not about suppressing women?:lol: So, what would you call it?

I would call it protecting life. I don't think a woman should have any more right to kill a baby inside her womb than I do to kill someone I don't like. The biggest irony that I find is that the left is for a woman's right to murder the innocent, but against societie's right to kill a convict. It has never made sense to me.

It's all well and good if we say those people are illegal immigrants but what happens the first time we have to explain to a citizen that he's lost his job because we've got prisoners to do his work for free?

Lets not forget the option of making people labor to recieve welfare benefits.

Cheap and free labor is available, make the inmates do it instead of laying around lifting weights or playing basketball or making arts add crafts.

 

How can the grocery bill get any higher with produce, it is already sky high. And we have illegals picking the fruit for little to nothing. So I cant buy all into that will cost more, everything cost more due to gas prices too.

That is not a bad idea at all. There is no reason why prisoners shouldn't be used as needed labor. They cost us a fortune.

We do have a labor shortage. It's a shortage of cheap labor, well below minimum wage.

 

But please, address my point about produce. As I said, the bulk of the produce in your grocery stores is farmed by cheap immigrant labor. If we "deport 'em all," your grocery bill likely doubles since the cost of farming will be passed along to you.

 

I agree that immigration reform and welfare reform are necessary, but given the inability of our leaders to get past party rhetoric and their corporate donors and actually accomplish something, I'm not optimistic that a change is around the corner in my lifetime.

That is simply not true. These large produce coops use illegal labor with illegal wages to increase their profits. The market will determine the price set for produce, and if there is no other option to obtain substance such as dependancy welfare, we will have a very large labor force willing to work in such jobs for minimum wage. The key is, as I stated, illegal immigrant reform needs to mix with welfare reform. You will not have the needed work force if they are subsidized through our tax base to continue not to work. Also, immigrant reform need to include harsh enough penalties to not make it worth crossing the border illegally. Of course, these would have to be very harsh not to make it worth trying to leave Mexico in its current condition. I do know that rewarding people for crossing the border will increase illegal border crossings, which is what we are doing now. I also believe our current administration likes this fact due to the reality that they have been capturing this vast pool of potential new voters through these policies that are hurting our nation. As far as Mexican labor goes, we have been issuing seasonal worker green cards for years. Why not continue that practice, as extra labor is needed, while upholding our current immigration laws with proper punishments?

They'll either quit, or your cost to get your lawn mowed will go through the roof.

Your point would have a lot more substance if we were facing any type of a labor shortage in this country. Instead, we are facing an unemployment crisis. Of course, to make it worth becoming a laborer, immigration reform would have to go hand in hand with welfare reform.

How about Gary Dearborn at Franklin?

This has been a story locally for a while. Our justice system has failed if this woman serves no jail time.

Color me not surprised.

The Cowboys changed the prototype. So did going to more zone style running schemes over the entire league.

If someone can be forced by anyone to abort their child, then we have lost liberty and respect for life in this nation. Legal guardianship doesn't give someone the right to do many things to a child. Forcing abortion should be one of those things.

I think we can draw the line on civil unions that afford the same rights as marriage where it's not extreme. Same sex unions are not extreme in my opinion. Bestiality is extreme.

I agree, but I am sure you can also agree that someone will eventually make some ridiculous argument that the line needs to be moved to fit their preferances once it is moved to fit someone else's preferenaces.

Gas is $3.69 where I live, and I guarantee in urban areas it is closer to $4+. Kroger brand hamburger I get is $2.99; if I want something leaner than 80/20 I'm paying around $4 a pound. Bread is probably around $1-1.50, I'll give you that.

 

To address your "it's easy to cherry pick a year" point, you cannot deny that the cost of living, especially groceries have skyrocketed in the last 10 years. My sister has been in the food industry for at least 15 years, the past 10 as a caterer in Nashville. To hear what prices were 10 years ago is astonishing.

The unbalanced increase in the price of gas has led to the unbalanced increase in the price of domestic goods in the last decade.

Oh, but workers don't deserve a raise in pay mandated by the government.

No, workers deserve a raise in pay when they provide their employer greater benefits by having them as an employee, thus making them more difficult to replace. Don't take the minimum wage and be happy, make yourself a more desirable employee. There are many ways to make this happen, even in laborer positions. Perhaps you could be more productive per hour than the employees willing to take your position for the same wage. The markes sets wages based on this premis. BTW, how many jobs do you actually know of that pay minimum wage that are not retail cashier jobs?

It's a handout because the gov't influenced the wage being paid. If you don't think you are fairly paid you are free to look for work elsehwere at anytime. Everyone including myself thinks they are worth more than they are paid. It's called the real world and life isn't fair.

I would even go further to give it a name called capitalism. If you don't like your wage, go somewhere else. If they can replace you easily, you weren't worth a higher wage to begin with.

If someone is working for these wages how can it be considered a handout? Also, what about the workers who are underpaid and companies make billions of dollars off them? What's your definition of this?

If you are willing to work for the wages you make, you are not underpaid. Companies are supposed to make billions off of their workers. I don't understand why you would think otherwise.

He asked, then he received.

Why should same sex couples that love each other every bit as much as hetro couples not be given those same benefits?

That is where many states set the limit. I have heard people say it has to do with the ability to produce children and a family, but we all know that is available. I think is still comes down to societal acceptance. The point is that it is a state's decision without an Amendment. I will remind you again, however, that some who I consider to be total freaks will argue that other types of relationships should be open to the same benefits. Where should the line be drawn?

I'm going to assume I read that wrong. Did you just equate homosexuality with marrying a goat?

Not at all. I am simply saying that there are a whole other group of people in the world that claim their love is real and should be accepted by government standards. I already stated that it is a much more extreme case, but many states choose to draw the line between a man and a woman. Until there is an amendment changing that they have the right to do so. It is also a gay person's right to boycott someone who has an opinion that doesn't support their cause. However, I don't see it being very effective.

The ability to marry the person that they love. The right to have that person stand as a spouse in legal matters.

 

I agree fairly closely with RTS. To me, marriage is a religious institution and should only be performed by religious institutions. I feel that the government should grant civil unions (not marriage) for any couple.

I see your point, but doesn't a civil union come with certain government benefits? As it is defined now, most states feel like marriage, or a civil union, should be between a man and a woman. Opening it up further could see weirdos wanting a civil union with a goat they own, and wanting the benefits that follow. I know that would be an extreme case, but there are reasons that the institute of marriage comes with some tax benefits that many states don't feel should come with a same sex marriage.

What do you base your opinion on other than hunch? You could be right but it would be good to see something supporting it.

I am simply basing it on personal experience and gun show attendance. The last show I attended involved guns flying out the door. Most of them were new, and all of them sold in the booths were background checked weapons. People who are new to the industry usually go to an advertised, known dealer to inquire about and purchase weapons. This info was taken when people flocking to the gun ownership world for the first time was very light. Now we have many people in our courntry and our state making their first weapon purchase a black rifle. Sorry for the cross term, an AR15.