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Sacred Heart is officially searching for a new volleyball coach as of yesterday. The open position is listed on their website.

 

Apparently, Garvey and SH parted ways a couple days ago. Don't have any other information as to what reason or who's choice it was. This comes as quite a shock as SH was going to be loaded next season as they return everyone but Zweibel--yes that's a BIG "but"--from last year.

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I though he was going to coach collegiately. I believe it was disclosed a while ago. or am I getting him confused with someone else.

 

His brother, Todd, the former Mercy HC, is an assistant at Purdue.

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Long story short but mostly one parent with a lot of money has had a vengeance for him for three years and after going to the AD and school president with every little thing as a complaint, the school finally forced him to resign this year. He did no wrongdoing and this is what is wrong with high school sports. Too many politics and the coaches can't even just coach, which is why they are there. The player has everything she wants and it's still not good enough. He is a very good coach and has helped every girl he could get to college and built a program that will be preseason #1 nationally according to many media outlets. Shame he won't get to bask in that success. Shame on Sacred Heart for letting this happen. Good luck to the next person, if they win its with Erics players, if they lose, they let all that talent go to waste. Can't wait to see who SHA pulls out of their hat to make this parent happy. I feel sorry for the kid who is getting more and more brainwashed along the way.

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That's about what I've heard recently as well. When you've got people gunning for you, it gets old pretty fast. Sometimes you just get tired of fighting the same old fight.

SH gave the reason he wanted to spend more time with his kids--which is a legitimate reason, but he still hasn't made any public comments himself.

I suspect that whoever is picked will have a rough time as well unless they just give in. If this happens, the team won't be successful and some individuals may find out that their former All American setter was more responsible for their prior accomplishments than they were.

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Wow, considering this is all true, (and I have no reason to doubt it is not), what do you think the chances are of the kid whose parents got him to resign receiving something other than a scholarship at a D3 institution.

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If it is a scholarship for a Division III school then it would not be for his/her athletic talents, but for their academic achievements since DIII does not give athletics scholarships.

 

Right..... which is why I said D3, because no coach giving out athletic scholarships would want a kid with parents like that anywhere near their program.

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And the winner is....Bret Versen from North Oldham and MAVA. Successful record at NO the last two years, but was it the coach or the players? I'll go with the players myself as they've had a good group go through there recently. Not as impressed with the coaching ability. Much better choices out there, but I've heard some didn't want to deal with the issues.

As to players and parents attitudes, AD's should be able to ignore that distraction. However, most of the time $$$$ means more to the school than a good coach.

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I'll say that the kid(s) whose parents are responsible for turning their program upside down going into their senior year are likely going to be just fine getting a scholarship to a D1 program bc as unfortunate as it is, they are talented volleyball players.

 

As far as the AD ignoring the distractions, they need to have a backbone (which SHAs does not). An AD should back their coach through any team rules and regulations they set and not want the coach to change their ways bc it's the easy way out for the AD. The AD is very good at looking out for their own self and current and former bball players (ex: kicking volleyball out of the gym during regional prep week to have open gym).

 

I don't know Brett but hope for his sake that he can have success, and with the players (and select parents) SHA has, he better. He walks into one of the most talented rosters this state may have seen in a long while.

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And the winner is....Bret Versen from North Oldham and MAVA. Successful record at NO the last two years, but was it the coach or the players? I'll go with the players myself as they've had a good group go through there recently. Not as impressed with the coaching ability. Much better choices out there, but I've heard some didn't want to deal with the issues.

As to players and parents attitudes, AD's should be able to ignore that distraction. However, most of the time $$$$ means more to the school than a good coach.

 

I don't know who they could have gotten that would be better than Brett. Clearly no KIVA coach is going to apply so that narrows it down quite a bit. Congrats to Brett on the new gig. Hope it works out for him.

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I'll say that the kid(s) whose parents are responsible for turning their program upside down going into their senior year are likely going to be just fine getting a scholarship to a D1 program bc as unfortunate as it is, they are talented volleyball players.

 

As far as the AD ignoring the distractions, they need to have a backbone (which SHAs does not). An AD should back their coach through any team rules and regulations they set and not want the coach to change their ways bc it's the easy way out for the AD. The AD is very good at looking out for their own self and current and former bball players (ex: kicking volleyball out of the gym during regional prep week to have open gym).

 

I don't know Brett but hope for his sake that he can have success, and with the players (and select parents) SHA has, he better. He walks into one of the most talented rosters this state may have seen in a long while.

 

I guess we shall see. It's been my experience that things like this turn a coach off if they get wind of it, and they generally do. Hopefully someone near the situation can report back how the kids faired when they've graduated to sate my curiosity. Also D1 at a Lower Mid-Major University is a bit different than D1 at Penn State, so I'd also be curious to see if they did get a D1 scholly if it was to a powerhouse or an outhouse. In other words did their ultimate destination get reduced after this incident or impacted at all.

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I guess we shall see. It's been my experience that things like this turn a coach off if they get wind of it, and they generally do. Hopefully someone near the situation can report back how the kids faired when they've graduated to sate my curiosity. Also D1 at a Lower Mid-Major University is a bit different than D1 at Penn State, so I'd also be curious to see if they did get a D1 scholly if it was to a powerhouse or an outhouse. In other words did their ultimate destination get reduced after this incident or impacted at all.

 

Usually the college coach thinks he/she can cure any issues if they exist. Sometimes it's not so much the player as the parent. Once the kid gets away from home, it's resolved. And it's a D1 scholarship to a school that did quite well last year--not a mid-major.

And in reply to an earlier post, why wouldn't a KIVA coach apply for the position? A former longtime assistant at SH, Coatley, has coached for years at KIVA. If it's because you think Kordes doesn't want the SH coach at his club, then I'd say you don't know the man very well.

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Usually the college coach thinks he/she can cure any issues if they exist. Sometimes it's not so much the player as the parent. Once the kid gets away from home, it's resolved. And it's a D1 scholarship to a school that did quite well last year--not a mid-major.

And in reply to an earlier post, why wouldn't a KIVA coach apply for the position? A former longtime assistant at SH, Coatley, has coached for years at KIVA. If it's because you think Kordes doesn't want the SH coach at his club, then I'd say you don't know the man very well.

I thought that was funny too. Why wouldn't Ron want his hooks into SH? Even though kids don't get recruited because of high school parents always seem to gravitate towards clubs where their high school head coach is at. As far as kids and parents go, anything negative about either of them effects the recruiting process. The question is do the benefits of the player outweigh the downside they bring, and can I get an equivalent or better kid with no baggage. Let's face it, college coaches are paid to win. So you may be right that they are still willing to accept the kid, but its probably because they don't have a better alternative right now. If they do all bets are off.

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Usually the college coach thinks he/she can cure any issues if they exist. Sometimes it's not so much the player as the parent. Once the kid gets away from home, it's resolved. And it's a D1 scholarship to a school that did quite well last year--not a mid-major.

And in reply to an earlier post, why wouldn't a KIVA coach apply for the position? A former longtime assistant at SH, Coatley, has coached for years at KIVA. If it's because you think Kordes doesn't want the SH coach at his club, then I'd say you don't know the man very well.

 

Not that Ron wouldn't want the SHA coach at KIVA, but that the KIVA coaches would have a level of respect for him and not apply to coach there. Being an assistant is different than being the head coach. That's just my personal opinion, obviously.

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