Bear78

Any guesses as to why X can't beat Trinity when it really counts? Especially when they manhandle them during the season?

 

Is it coaching? Are those regular season games flukes? Seeing as how these two teams know that they'll meet again in the playoffs and the winner will win state...does Trinity use the regular season game like a science lab to experiment with things to see what works and what doesn't, then spend the rest of the season working on the good and getting rid of the bad? Second time around, the unleash it all on X and they have no answer?

 

Just curious. To me, that is the most impressive thing about Trinity...their ability to make such a huge improvement as a team every season to where they're always playing at their highest level when it matters most. That's the goal of every team in every sport, but few accomplish it to the level that Trinity has over the past decade.

I'm an outsider looking in at both programs. Both very good. The impression I have is emotion may play a bigger role than anyone thinks. Glaser seems to be a guy that gets caught in the emotion and only realizes it after he is part way down the path. Tough way to keep kids focused and teach them about football, sportsmanship etc. Still, it is obvious, he takes he team to, or near the top every year - not many can claim such consistency. Beatty appears to be mostly business. Flys under the radar, keeping his goal in mind. Someone said earlier he doesn't mind taking things slow at the beginning of the year even if he looses a few on the way. Not a bad strategy with a seemingly limitless talent pool.

It hard to argue with T's success, it's equally as hard to argue with X's success, still heads and shoulders above the publics. Without ties allowed - someone has to loose.

Maybe someone should ask all the teams X steamrolls every year if they think X is not a benchmark program. Don't discredit X.

Congratulations to Trinity!

I wonder now how the steamrolling X does to the other teams really helps them, other than the ratings? It does seem to come down to the X's and O's the last few years with T able to bring it together in the end.

X and T (and Highland) are flagship programs in the state. No other programs can match funding and across the board talent. I don't anticipate the playoff participants changing much in the coming years.

I saw in the CJ that Redmon apologized to purple wearing fans. I thought there was no need to apologize but Male was definately off their game. Other than the kick returned for a TD nothing seemed to go right for Male. Congratulations to the Cimsons.

Good luck to both teams in the playoffs.

I'm concerned because Manual is not playing great right now.

This game seems to be an emotional one for both teams. The last four or five games I saw were pretty close, last years went to Manual. Will emotion get it back for Male or will Manual keep the barrel?

It seems like Male is down this year - as is Manual. This year seems like another toss-up.

Hopefully the rain will hold off for the evening and the boys can enjoy being in Cardinal Stadium. :banana:Good night for a party.

The kid showed good speed. Getting routed by a school you don't like will bring out the sour grapes.

I'm not sure its sour grapes as much as frustration with the perceptions about Manual and other public school programs. X & T get the talent they want, much more of a complete package than any public school has assembled this year. How many lineman comparible to X's can be found at YPAS?

X could easily field two teams that could compete with most 6A schools and probably another in the 3A or 4A area.

X has a good team this year and will likely comptete for the title. I know some of the kids on the team and they are good kids!

With all they have going for them why do they play like they have a chip on their shoulder? Did the score really need to be 57-0?

Define "fair share"? Manual teams have always had teams consisting either mostly, or a very large percentage of guys that never played the game of football in their lives as Freshmen. My freshmen year (1999-2000) I think there were maybe 3 or 4 guys who had played before.

 

If there are CSAA players that can get into Manual, the choice is not based on a quality education as much as the fact that they can be around girls all day. Understandable decision IMO.

What kind of a statement is this? Education is the primary driver. Parents who have spent money on their kids education in grade school are focused on education. Don't kid yourself, the decision on where a boy goes to high school is not made solely by the boy, the parents generally guide the decision.

Both Manual and X & T offer quality education. Manual's is 8,000 less per year. If you had the chance for the same product at less cost.........?

X has the resoruces this year to win. Manuals chance to win rests on missed opportunity by X. X will need to make a number of serious mistakes to loose this one.

Look, I ate the hot dog without getting ketchup or mustard on my hands.....this time.

Fun thread.

As I quickly scanned the Q & A's I didn't see a school that has an interesting nickname.

I know the nickname, but not the school, could we reverse order for this one?

Nickname School

Engineers

Luckily, the Crimsons as a whole don't drop their heads at any point, and play hard until the end. That's what I like best about this team.

This does seem to be a characteristic of this Manual team! It should help them throughout the season.

Good individual play by a number of players, mopre consistancy is needed on both sides of the ball. Too many "big" plays challenged Manual early on

How quickly we forget about 2006 when Doug Beaumont and

Male were the best team in the state.

Doug Beaumont is certainly a quality player and quality person, Male was good in 2006, but certianly not the best in the state...... they squeeked by a few teams that year too , which is what good teams do.

Has it really been successful? Attendance has not been great, I don't think that it has been made the event that is should be.

 

Maybe Louisville has to many irons in the fire.

 

To answer you repetitive question: I think it would be better in BG because it would be a bigger event, more publicity, less competition, a smaller facility, but still plenty big enough.

 

Other then the drive, that everyone is concerned with, both to Louisville and BG, I think most fans would come away with a better experience in BG over Louisville.

 

As for the night life argument, I don't think that holds water for most, if not 99% of the people that would be attending the Championship game.

A lot of good points are being made. Nothing has said about the factor weather on attendance in the December championships. It might be

fun to go to the games, but I'm sure a lot of folks just don't want to sit through hours in extreme cold (without the possibility of a trophy deer) in most cases.

I see it less about location and more about weather.

But Ref,.....I didn't think it was a horse collar tackle if he didn't have the ball.....

USC for me

Cotline...

 

 

They need them both.

I agree, although with your AVATAR yours is a very scary reply:scared:

It really bothers me when I hear high school boys act like it is some kind of demotion to play JV. To me I would want to be seen by my coach as a hard worker and improving then just stand on the sidelines of a Varsity game.

I think this is a function of the Head Coach and Assistant Coaches. If they see it as a place to improve and learn the players will also.

I thought that odd when I saw it. I don't know if any other head coaches have coached from the box, but I found it especially surprising considering his passion and demeanor, he is the type of coach you want on the field.

With Coach Nichols performing as the OC he will need to trust whoever he has in the box to be his eyes.

I can only guess their was a disagreement when the former OC left the box before halftime and left the Crimson hanging during the X playoff game last year.

Strategy and play options need to be discussed before the game begins to allow for flexibility as the game unfolds.

Did Henderson lose to this team last year? I thought they dropped one or two to Indiana teams. If so it does look as though they are moving back to their usual winning ways.

Both teams appeared to shine during different parts of the game and have a really tough time with fundamentals during other parts of the game. All did appear to be lost for Manual when Central snapped it into the endzone. I'd put the whiffed punt under first game jitters (who practices that) - had he tossed it out of bounds the game would have been tied with about 1:30 remaining.

Congrats to Manual for getting past a tough Central team.:dancingpa

I think that most D3 schools are private schools. Being private simply means they have to stay on top of actual cost. No subsidies from the state. State schools factor in state subsidies (I think) before calculating tuition. They also have to get permission to raise tuition from the state.

In my opinion all Universities and Colleges operating in the state should be required to present tuition as actual cost without state subsidies. If the state wants to encourage in-state students to stay in state they can offer "automatic" scholarships or grants just for living in KY. In this way the out-of-state students pay full cost and in-state get a break without artifically surpressing the tuition costs. If the states around KY are examined many have higher tuitions with scholarships for in-state students.

Our son in going D3 to be able to play football. With the aid that was offered it will be cheaper than UK (after the 2008 tuition increase). We are tickled with the attention he has received so far. He has met some stand-up men on the football team already and the coaches and administrators seem to be truly interested in him as a person rather than a body to help the school reach its athletic goals. We think this will be a better experience than he may have had at a larger public university.

The win at the Male 7 on 7 sounds prominsing for a team that lost their OC from last year. I've heard Nichols is taking over as OC. Although he is a defensive guy, this could be a good thing. He may be more willing to try new things rather than sticking with the long ball.

In the end it will need to be the linemen that advance Manual.

At Approximately $750, 000 you could re-sod a field for many years.

How long are these things suppose to last? I heard Lex Cath had one of the first and it is starting to show it's age. Can they be rehabed?

I know field turf is the latest rage and offers loads of flexibility. I'm hearing about injury issues and long term maintenance issues with the field turf. Are these real issues or just justification to not spend the $3/4 million?

Not clear about the injuries, I'm hearing they are "studying" a possible connection. Long term maintenance will be a big deal if a school needs to raise funds every 10-15 years to rebuild or rehab the field.

IMO Manual (and a lot of other schools) could succeed by picking a few things and do them really well.

From what I hear Manual is retooling in the coaching ranks following the departure of the OC. They now have an opportunity to become less predictable and less dependant on the long ball. I expect to see them mix it up offesively and defensively in coming years.

I saw three from DuPont Manual are going. Marcus Niemann, Andre Wells and Travis Williams.