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Did he leave on his own?

9 hours ago, New Colonel said:

They should redo the defense since their defensive coordinator Chris Mobley left to take the Head Coaching job across the river at Gamble Montessori High School in February, then a month later accepted another Head Coaching job at Purcell Marian in Cincinnati.  

Dixie needs to do figure out what kind of team they want to be.  They can be an absolute force if they decide to make better decisions regarding scheme, especially on defense.  Their defensive scheme lost them games last year, plain and simple.  Against teams that were close to their talent level, or above, they would run press man coverage and get absolutely torched.  The Beechwood game especially was the biggest example of that.  But they kept running press man zero.  People in the stand would be yelling, well, here comes a big play because they are in press and bingo, it would happen.

They have really good numbers and really solid buy-in from the kids from what I'm hearing.  They have some solid looking dudes.  

 

I would love to see Gregg moved to RB and just feed that beast of a human the ball 30+ times a game.  He's simply too big and strong to not run the ball that much, and they have a backup QB who IMHO is more accurate with the ball.  

I love the idea of going quick, no huddle.... more snaps and means more opportunities to score.  But, there's no need to be "cute" all the time.  There's nothing wrong with smash mouth football, and smash mouth is VERY affective when you can combine it with quick tempo.

I wouldn't call Dixie a "pitbull" by any means, but they have the ability to definitely become one.  They need to get out of their own way first.  And when they do get over the hump, they have the ability to stay there for quite a while as I know there is talent & numbers in the Middle School coming up.  Hopefully this season can be a statement season for Coach Burke and the Colonels.  

What do they do that’s “cute”?

7 hours ago, PP1 said:

When a school has a full time AD, does that mean they work 40 hours a week or is a full time AD just someone who is in the office 5 days a week? The Grant County AD, I am almost positive, is in the building 5 days a week, would that not make him full time?

It doesn’t matter if your title says full time or not any AD (and pretty much every HC at least) is working 40 hours a week just about. Of course that changes some with coaches out of season. 
 

When an AD is full time position it is similar to an admin position. Things are handle probably differently overall when there is that type of setup. 
 

There may or may not of been very many applicants for the position. In general there aren’t as many people going into or staying in coaching. Coaching where you’re from and/or played can always be a tossup. Hopefully Jones is supported and he grows with the position

On 4/26/2024 at 5:28 PM, Woodsman said:

I hope he does a good job being a Braves fan.  Good luck with this new journey.  Good place to start coaching and move on but to stay very long will be difficult.  AD is a miserable and does not want basketball to do well. 

 The only good thing in Jones favor is the hire of a new superintendent and maybe his eyes are opened to the job-sense that occurs in athletics.   Extracurricular drives culture in a school system and should be a focus of every school in every distric.

If the AD doesn’t want basketball to do well then what sport(s) does he want to do well?

The district has money to do things. In general it looks like athletic decisions (as far as money) hasn’t been handled well. This is from the outside looking in. 
 

The biggest thing for someone that is inexperienced is all the administrative parts of the job. Fundraising, purchasing of things, schedules, paperwork, dealing with administration, youth programs and so on. 

Joshua Smith has been sending emails out as the HC. I have no idea about Coach Smith. 

The Boone, Conner, Cooper, Scott, Dixie district is highlighted in blue but I don’t think there is a change. Am I missing something?

I’ll say during the 90s is when passing/spread started taking off in the state. Couch, Redman, Breathitt, and some other places started to sling it. I think one of the Madison schools starting using the old Georgetown Run and Shoot at that time. 

19 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

 

Is it unusual to have 3 jobs come open in one year?

In areas outside of the major population areas the fringe sports typically follow one of two cycles. You either get a lifer at that position or someone willing to fill in the role for 3-4 years maybe. 
 

Now your big three it’s more rare to see two of those open in the same year. Also you look at how often those spots open over a stretch of time. I think Carroll will be in their fourth HC in 9 or so years. One left for another job and two were let go. 
 

As far as talent coming up goes. The road to Kroger field doesn’t go through Owen, Trimble, Switzerland Co, or Grant. 

That is my first thought is people in charge. I’m sure there are other places that are similar but I know of at least one district that over a 8 year span has replaced every coaching position except girls basketball. In most cases the jobs are on their 3-4 coach in 8 years. 

3 hours ago, futurecoach said:

I know Justin Franklin just got the Scott job. However, he is a Carroll County guy, any chance he would return? Or was there a reason why he left before? 

He was let go by Carroll Co. 

My guess was he stepped down and wasn’t asked to leave/let go. He was in the final two for the Shelby Co job according to some. Was he let go?

Carroll is a strange place. They appear to have good numbers, facilities appear to be good, a decent mix of size and athletes. Yet with all of that something appears off. 

What happened there? 

When do teams have have to say they are dropping out of district play?

I would have to go through the realignments over the years where they publish who are opting out of district play. 
 

As far as getting fired after a district win goes. One of the coaches I know the team won a district time for the first time in 15 years. Beat a 5A team for the first time in 15 years. Won their way into the playoffs for the first time in over 15 years. 

1 hour ago, futurecoach said:

Where we disagree on apparently is I think those numbers get even worse if drop out of district play and even more players start going elsewhere. 

Which teams that have dropped out of district play have had their numbers hurt by doing so? 
 

There are a lot of coaches that have gotten district wins for the first time in a long time that either ended up fired within a year or so or did not see an improvement in numbers or support. 

27 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Here is a different angle on this discussion. Why do teams only talk about dropping out of district in football? Why not baseball, basketball, soccer, volleyball, etc? 

There are schools that have no chance at a district title and also lose most of their games in those sports also. Why do they stay in district play in those sports? 

Good question. One I believe is the physical nature of the sport. Football is a sport where you really can’t avoid physical contact. I would guess that football has a higher likelihood of injury between mismatched opponents. 
 

A second guess would be the amount of games. You only get 10 and 3-5 of those you’re forced to play. I believe other sports have more flexibility in their schedules to play similar teams. Also for possibly the same reasons schools will (at often can) teams they would never play in football. Pendleton Co has struggled in football but their other sports options are more open. Harrison Co when you compare baseball and football. 
 

As far as kids going other places to play goes that isn’t as much of an option for many. Kids will talk about going places also if they are getting curb stomped in district play. 

26 minutes ago, futurecoach said:

Your numbers aren’t going to go up if you play non district. Players aren’t dumb, they would then know their own school doesn’t believe they can do well. So why even play, especially when playing for nothing at that point? Plus how do you even know if you go non district if you are then ready to play in district in two years. If your whole schedule is water down, you have no idea. 
 

It is simple you water down you non district schedule to build confidence, then you find out where you are at during district play. Dropping out of district is not going to help with much of anything and most likely will hurt the program and numbers. 

I have never seen a team hurt by going nondistrict. I have seen teams get hurt by getting skull drug by teams in n their district. There are parts of the state/schools that are aware of who is in their district. You might be surprised how many fans and players are unaware of things like who is in their district or even what class teams are in. 
 

Let’s take Boone as an example again. Let’s say they play Scott the first district game and lose. Now they know they aren’t making the playoffs and get to look forward to getting hammered by 2-3 more district opponents. Halfway through their season they know they don’t have anything to play for in some people’s eyes. 
 

If your numbers are low for your class and you have to play freshmen and sophomores on Friday night against D1 kids that isn’t helping anyone. If you’re nondistrict where you can schedule schools with similar rosters it is easier to build off of those freshmen and sophomores. Now when you return to district play they have experience and more out of season and hopefully success on the field. 
 

I know I’m not really going to change probably anyone’s opinion. I know from living it what it’s like. I also know there are a number of coaches that have similar feelings. Many believe districts need to either be structured differently or to get rid of them. Especially now with the RPI. 

The “lesser” teams are trying to play competitive football. They would be trying to play teams that are similar matchups. I’m just throwing teams out there but does anyone think Scott HS, Gallatin, Pendleton, Boone or any number of teams are going to make a playoff run anytime soon?

When you go nondistrict it’s for 2 years. You can get a pretty good idea where you might be in 2 years. 

The last part is there is a deadline to send in paperwork to be removed from district play for two seasons. At that point you can either go nondistrict again for two seasons or return to play. If/when you return to play you will be placed into a 5 team district because you opted out. This is in case you opt out again the district will have 4 teams instead of 3. 
 

Make excuses? The KHSAA forces you to play teams you might have no business being on a field with. If you really look at some of these matchups that are forced on teams it becomes almost unsafe. It doesn’t benefit either program. It in fact it probably hurts a ton of programs in many ways. 
 

I would guess that many people that have the view point of just buck up and play have not coached or played on teams forced into these types of games. Using a method similar to Ohio makes more sense. 

The DC made a post on social media saying he was stepping down. From the post it doesn’t sound like it for a new job. The post made it sound as if there were some philosophical differences. 

1 hour ago, BLUEHOUND said:

Maybe I'm missing the point but....Seems like this would be a typical response in today's world to just not participate instead of fighting to get better and be competitive. Even if you have no chance to win the district,  just working hard and finding satisfaction in a bunch of dudes coming together to work as hard as they can would be better. What are we teaching people by running from superior competition. Figure it out!!

I’ll use Grant as an example but there are for sure others. They dropped from district play and when they returned were placed in a district with Douglas and Scott Co. Both had been 6A the previous year with Scott Co being runner up to Male. Great Crossing gets added to make a 5 team district which limits scheduling. In the span of 4 years that district ends up being Grant (which was 4A by enrollment) with Douglas and Great Crossing (6A enrollment) along with Scott Co and MoCo. 
 

No amount of try harder or do it for the building memories with your teammates is going close that gap. It was a no win situation for all involved. The coming situation isn’t going to be much better with Cov Cath and Highlands. Harrison, Holmes and Grant would never schedule those two and those two wouldn’t schedule them. 
 

It might take teams dropping from district play to get the KHSAA to look at doing away with districts. 

With the portal and NIL stuff college has become a different landscape. It’s one reason you are seeing guys leave to the NFL, retire or take different positions. It’s not worth the headaches. 
 

As far as New Hampshire being his favorite job I don’t think it’s that odd. The focus was on football and not all the other stuff that comes with Power 5 and big time college football. The players are different. The media eye, boosters and the rest is different. It looks like the guy just wants to coach ball and not deal with all the other stuff. 

51 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Year 2 of the scheduling cycle. The schedule is what it is. Tough to change much on a schedule in year 2 of the cycle.

I’m talking about the next cycle. Many teams are down to just a couple of openings. There is a Google sheet going on the listserv now for 25/26. Also some districts have already drawn for the 25/26 schedule. 

1 hour ago, Builder1214 said:

In 24/25, Boone will be competing with Scott to make the playoffs. They could create a very competitive schedule and win as many as 7 games if they schedule strategically enough. Young head coaches have to start somewhere. This would be a difficult job, but the obstacles to improving the program and putting together some winning seasons is not overbearing.

The problem is most teams have a large amount of their schedule filled already. Whoever comes in is going to be kind of stuck with whatever. If they had hired sooner it would have given them a better chance.