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"Can someone give us the name of the CovCath grad who played the National Anthem on the electric guitar ala Jimi Hendrix, he should travel from gym to gym doing it."

Ryan Snyder, CovCath Grad ... member of the band, The Borderline Something, with two other CCH grads, Eric Torres and Ben Maile. The trio currently lives in Nashville chasing their dream. First album "Episode I" available on Spotify.

Just wanted to say thanks Randy! Well done.

I could care less who won the game.

I just want to make sure you saw that I apologized to you for emphatically stating that you were wrong.

From a Basketball Officials site:

 

When taking a charge, does the defensive player have to be still?

Basketball rules state that if a defensive player is in a legal defensive stance or position, the defensive player has the right to move in order to maintain his legal positioning. A charging call can be made even if the defensive player has one or both feet off of the ground when the offensive player makes contact with the defensive player. The basketball rule of “verticality” applies here. If a defensive player jumps straight up to block a shot and the offensive player jumps into and creates contact with the defender, an offensive charging call could be made.

I found the same site...it's an explanation of the most misunderstood rules in basketball. So, Sweet16, I am wrong regarding the rule book. My apologies.

The actual rule to which you refer does say that the defender has to keep himself and his arms straight up or he risks conceding his "rule of verticality" right. It's up the official to figure that out I guess. I'll stand by my point, however, that the way I explained my point previously is the way the game has been taught for many moons ... and I've been around a lot of basketball and never seen it called on offensive player. But again, technically, your are correct and I was wrong. Good call!

For the most part I agree with you but officials do make mistakes.

 

Defender has the right to go straight up and down

There's way more to this game to discuss than this, but your point is simply wrong. No where in the rule book is that stated.

 

I think the contention here is that the offensive player was not "on the way" to anywhere. But once the defender went for a shot fake the offensive player then launched or lunged or initiated the contact by moving into the defender. The contention in this case was if the offensive player did not move forward and instead simply shot the ball there would have been no contact.

 

I understand, but the defender, by leaving his feet, forfeits any claim to establishing position. The offensive player is allowed to attempt his shot and even move toward the basket in that attempt without penalty. There simply is no situation, when the defender leaves his feet ... no matter how far forward the shooter jumps, where it's an offensive foul.

Move the shot to right under the basket, the defender jumps straight up and the offensive kid goes up and toward the basket .... it's a defensive foul. Same situation just farther from the rim. It's really not a point of contention at all. That's a defensive foul. Only exception is if an official deems a "flagrant" by the offensive kid.

Defense has a right to their position, whether on the ground or in the air. Offense can't just run them over. [\QUOTE]

 

so by that logic, offensive player is on his way to a the basket; defensive player is in front of him and jumps up to block the shot; offensive player jumps up and toward the rim and the two collide. by your logic, the offensive player jumped forward into the defender ... so that's a charge? Nope. good offensive players work to get the defender up in the air and then proceed into them with a shot attempt. it's a defensive foul. don't leave your feet defender.

xxx

 

I couldn't get Luke into the picture no matter how hard I tried!

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Found out this evening that the former Covington Catholic three time Player of the Year in the Ninth Region, University of Kentucky Baseball player Luke Maile, has been assigned to be on the Spring Training Roster of the MLB Tampa Bay Rays. Luke will be practicing and playing with the big team this spring in Florida!

Non Roster Invitee

Beechwood 65 Holmes 47 per text.

Is that backwards? If not, Beechwood has all of the sudden become a threat to the big girls?

NDA by 18

At least. This shouldn't be a game whatsoever.

So what do the brackets look like at this point?

Looks like the rosters were released today and Maile is listed among the outfielders. Either that's a misprint or they really like his athleticism. Michael Williams listed as a catcher.

 

Hudson Valley Renegades Team Roster | Hudson Valley Renegades Roster

It's Catcher now, must have been an error.

Ben Maile goes to 8-0 on the season, with a 0.93 ERA!

 

Coupled with his 9-1 & 2.46 ERA record last year, it puzzles the heck out of me, that Ben isn't getting more looks from D1 Schools. What in the world are you colleges coaches looking for! :idunno:

Velocity! If he finds an opportunity, and works his tail off...he could play some college and maybe bloom late. He simply doesn't throw hard enough to attract colleges...he just throws a lot of high school outs.

You should read post 19. Atleast I admit when I'm wrong, unlike some people on this site. (not referring to anyone in this thread)

Dman, as strong as you came on, I'm thinking you owe a little more humility than that. Come on man, a SWEEP is pretty strong. On the other hand, I heard a USC fan on Sunday, (when the sweep began to come into focus): "well, we were just overrated, UK's really not that good". So maybe you weren't that far off...we'll just wait and see.

The thing about most of the schools you mentioned is that they're from the south. Southern schools have better baseball teams than northern teams that UK is playing...

 

I'll just go team by team for pre conference games with other good baseball schools except UK since we all know that schedule...

 

Florida - Miami, Cal State Fullerton, Florida St.

UT - Texas, Rice, Houston

USC - Clemson

Vandy - Stanford, San Diego

Georgia - UCLA

LSU - no traditional powers but atleast they have a couple other major DI schools

Arkansas - Texas Tech, Houston, Texas

Ole Miss - TCU, Houston, Louisville

Miss St - Again, no traditional powers but atleast there are other major DI schools

Alabama - Louisville, Florida Atlantic, Tulane

Auburn - Missouri, Arizona, Southern Miss

 

UK's schedule is made up of a bunch of no name schools that they know they'll beat.

 

They may come out and win some games in the SEC and prove me wrong, but I doubt it...

I hear you, and that makes a lot of sense. I'm truly not bent on this point and I'm sure I don't understand how it's figured or if it means anything. But, I'm curious if these various rankings mean anything. UK"s strength of schedule ranking is 101; there are 4 SEC teams ranked higher (Florida, SC, Vandy, Auburn) and 7 ranked lower. UK's RPI rank is 10; there are two ranked higher (Florida 1 and SC 2) the rest are lower. Again, I don't think this tells us anything about what they'll do the rest of the season, I just think that tells us that their schedule is not laughable compared to the rest of the conference. Wouldn't you agree with that? Understand, I am simply enjoying some spare time reading and discussion. I truly don't feel strongly about any of this, more curious than anything. Like I said before, you're skepticism is shared by me and is well deserved. I'm just hoping for continued success and something to hang my hat on until the story is told.

Wasn't aware of that. They might make it now...

 

Their non-conference schedule is laughable...

Your cynicism is appropriate. UK's early success deserves to be received with much reservation until they beat somebody in the SEC. However, you need to look at the rest of the conference's non-conference schedules. With a couple of obvious exceptions, those schedules are filled with great schools like Appalachian St, Georgia Southern, Presbyterian, Winthrop, Savannah St, Western Illinois, Western Carolina, Kennesaw St, Bethune-Cookman, William & Mary, Elon, VMI, UNC Asheville, Princeton, Charleston Southern, and so on.... UK"s rpi is on par or better than several SEC teams. The point is UK has a lot of work to do to earn respect, but their schedule is not laughable by any stretch.

Delete this please....i got the wrong info......sorry.

Sawyer Pauly, Clint Massie et al Step Up!!!! UPSET CITY!!!

Leo Foster from Holmes was a great basketball player, a multi-event track star and played for 4-5 years at 3rd, 2nd and short for the Atlanta Braves and New York Mets.

From what I was told by some very successful contemporaries of Leo Foster's, he is probably the all time best. An amazing, dominating athlete at whatever sport he played.

I do not think a complement of Coach Ruthsatz = a tacit criticism of Coach Listerman any more than complementing the great skills of Nick Ruthsatz calls in to question the accomplishments of Andy and Kevin Listerman. We are blessed to have had all of them.

Why are Coach L fans some of the most insecure people on here? Again, relax man. Not everything is about him....most times, people are just talking about what they write.

Everyone always wants officials to be consistent, EXCEPT at the end of the game. Then you don't want them to make a call that would have been made in the 2nd quarter. Maybe we could just have them leave the floor with 30 sec. left and "Let the kids decide the outcome". A foul is a foul is a foul, regardless of when it occurs.

Not exactly. I said that "cch had their chances and one call doesn't lose you the game" but, that call at the end of the game was not a call you want to make to decide a game. Just not enough going on there to be the deciding call. Watch a little basketball, talk to some officials...really man, i didn't invent the thought. When you're going to potentially decide a game with your call, you're not going to do that on a marginal foul (meaning that it may or may not be a foul at ANY point in the game)...it needs to be a no brainer. That is neither an excuse, a criticism of the officials, or a request for them to leave the floor in the last half minute... I was stating a widely held basketball sentiment. Find another post with more controversy, FOTR, there's really nothing to debate here.

Refs called a fine game. Holmes affected CCH at the bucket early in the game, which cost them the game. Hayden may help CCH next time round. District 35 is a blast! No official at any level is going to tell you that you make THAT call with 1.6 sec to decide a game, CCH had their chances and one call doesn't lose you the game, BUT that was a terrible call to make to decide this one....should've played OT, but that's the way the ball bounces.

If my math is correct, in the last 25 years it's worked out to 18 district titles, 13 regional finals, 9 regional titles and a state championship. I'd say it's worked out. Know anyone in NKY who's done better?

One cannot possibly deny the fact that CCH has been highly touted, loaded, and a complete and utter disappointment since 2007 years...at least! Seriously? From 2006 -2009 they re-wrote the offensive record book and have "ZERO" to show for it. Last year's team might be the sole exception. Please don't be a fool and take offense at someone stating the obvious. I too am tired of the pattern of early hype / late season choking...and I am a BIG CCH fan, btw. But, if we're being honest...twenty wins and a bunch of districts is a silly-low expectation with the kids that go thru those doors at that school... With that said...this group might win a few games this year. (That's really all we should say until we win something)

PC is pretty good.

I realize this is CCH v BC thread...but I must agree strongly with this...PC is as good as anybody in the 9th Region that I've seen, for sure...