HammerTime

If the kid who Mr. Phillips approached doesn’t stand there and smirk, or if he walks away, how much steam does this story maintain?

My guess is most of us outside of CCH/NKY bubble never hear about it.

I've had discussions with several different people throughout this thread and you are the only one continually whining about not wanting to talk to me. Stop responding if you don't like talking to me. It's very simple. In fact, before this I'm not sure the last time I had a conversation on here with you.

 

I disagree with your statement about my arguments being irrelevant or about semantics. It is absolutely relevant that you don't know their intent or what they know. You pretend you know, and attack me for pointing out that you don't really know.

You responded to my post that had nothing to do with you. I would have never engaged with you which is why we don’t have conversations. So move along.

So according to some the NA group/man walks up to the kids and engages them(fact, video shows that). Kids feel threatened/annoyed in some way and a few are doing a Seminole chant and tomahawk chop. But they didn’t know that was offensive? They thought they were participating with the NA group in unison? That’s quite a spin zone.

Do you know if the kids knew that? Did you when you were 16?

How do you know they are 16 have you seen their birth certificate? They could be 17 and know better.

Pretty sure any teenager with any sense in the world today would know that’s offensive and considering their intend I’m pretty sure they did know.

Also, if you want to see a large group of white people doing the tomahawk chop, tune in to the Chiefs/Pats game today. Or any Atlanta Braves game. Or maybe go see a NFL game in Washington. If the tomahawk chop is racially insensitive then it needs to be removed from our professional sports teams.

 

I am not saying it is or it isn't, but that tomahawk chop is widely used in professional, college, and high school sports. If the action is offensive then it shouldn't be accepted there either.

Pretty have wanted it removed from sports for a long time. Intent matters.

So we aren't allowed to discuss the other groups to provide context? I disagree.

We already have done that and are doing it now. If you want to make a specific thread condemning them feel free. I think we have all explained their roles in the situation here. My explaining was why we are focusing on the kids. I think that’s pretty clear.

This thread is about the students, and I was commenting on the students.

And this is a Kentucky message board with a huge focus on NKY. I’m sure plenty of message boards in other areas are discussing those other groups.

Let’s hope. Gray was brutal in a hitters ballpark last year but good on the road.

Some mentioned some differences in pitching strategies with the Yanks staff and pairing him with his old college coach could bring him back to what he was.

My kids would be taught that you can't control the actions of others, and that whenever possible, walk away.

 

I can assure you I wouldn't teach them to mock someones race in response.

 

I'm not sure I can get behind the idea that Phillips did anything wrong here simply by playing a drum in a group of people, but I do agree that everyone played a role. Some worse than others.

Agreed, seems like some of this could have been avoided with chaperones present.

One possible delay in announcement of #Reds ’ trade for #Yankees ’ Sonny Gray, which @jonHeyman said yesterday was being finalized: The Reds might be trying to sign Gray to an extension as part of deal. Have not confirmed this is under discussion, but would make sense . . .

Everyone is asking about the chaperones not shutting this down. What about some of the adult onlookers? Including many filming, getting their story, and then competing to be the first to upload? This incident was wrong, but it also went on way longer than it should have. Any adult who was filming it should have instead jumped in and cleared the students away from the man.

Call out culture and internet points. This world is very weird.

So I may have missed it, but why exactly were the CCH students in DC for to begin with? I’m not sure what sort of field trip would include a stop at a protest rally regardless of the cause.

Attending the March for Life.

I think what needs to be remembered here is that these kids are kids. Justification for their behavior, no. But kids do dumb things.

Racism doesn’t happen on accident.

It’s always hard to judge cell phone cameras. You never know what happened right before or right after.

I don’t know what could possibly have happened to justify that behavior.

@HammerTime , have you actually had your shoulder looked at by a doctor? Only reason I ask was I went a decade or so thinking that I had torn my rotator cuff. And because I was young, single and didn't have great insurance, I just wrote it off to something that I was going to have to live with the rest of my life. After I got married and had better insurance, my wife told me to go get it looked at professionally.

 

Had an MRI done on it and the doctor told me the rotator cuff was absolutely fine! But, he said I had both tendonitis and bursitis, and that each one was keeping the other one from healing properly. No surgery was needed. Went to one session of physical therapy, before realizing that all of the activities they were having me do were exercises I used to do way-back-when for baseball. After several months of doing those religiously, I had zero pain. I felt so stupid for having gone that long in the first place.

I have and they told me rotator cuff tendinitis as well. I went to therapy and everything and couldn’t get it to go away.

I bought a bottle, but I have been negligent in taking it regularly. I put it in my salad dressing, and I don't even know I took it, not that it tastes horrible. However, I haven't seen earth-shattering results.

 

I am wondering for those who have success, how much do you consume, and/or do you use it topically?

I've been meaning to comeback here and post. I take a full dropper under my tongue each day. It's flavored so it's not too bad. I miss days from time to time. I won't pretend it has produced earth shattering results, but it most certainly made a difference for the pain in my foot and shoulder.

I respect the hustle, but he's kidding himself if he thinks a video of that game is worth $3,500.

Can you even do that?

Here is a good breakdown of the potential downside of trading for Kluber.

Should the Reds give up Nick Senzel for Corey Kluber? - Redleg Nation

My falls and winters were filled with Caywood Ledford and my springs and summers were filled with Marty and Joe. I miss that as much as anything.

 

Now, I'm getting all nostalgic. STOP IT!!

 

(Yes, I am talking to myself on a message board.)

I used to sit out in my drive way at night and listen to the games and hit my wiffle ball onto the roof all night long. :lol2:

I still enjoy listening to Marty most of the time. It will be weird not hearing his voice during the games.

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Big news: Marty Brennaman has announced that 2019 will be his final season calling #reds games. He has been calling games for the club since 1974 and is Frick Award winner at the HOF.

Here is a short video the Reds put out...

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