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Congratulations Robbie. I've seen him play a few games and he's special and one of my favorites . :taz:

Ditto, ditto, ditto. He's not only a super basketball player, but he's a great kid from a wonderful family. Way to go, Robbie!

Nice article in the Winchester Sun today.

 

Prep Basketball: Cards hold off Indians

By Keith Taylor/Sun Sports Editor

MOUNT STERLING — George Rogers Clark achieved its first goal of the season Friday night with a regular-season sweep of rival Montgomery County.

The Cardinals ended district seed play with a perfect 3-0 record.

 

 

Clark (14-3) struggled from the field and made just four 3-pointers, but none bigger than Vinny Zollo’s trey late in the third quarter.It was just a momentum-changer,” Humphrey said. “They kind of had us on the ropes a little bit. They may have been surprised that he stepped out and hit the three. After he hit the three, he didn’t stay on the perimeter. He went back in there and got some nice rebounds for us. I thought he did a nice job of being physical tonight.”

 

Robbie Stenzel was the top scorer for Clark, finishing with 23 points, followed by Robert Hatton with 19. Stenzel did most of his damage in the second half, scoring 18, including eight in the third frame.

 

 

 

Link to article:

 

http://www.winchestersun.com/public_html/?module=displaystory&story_id=17855&format=html

Congratulations, Robbie! What an outstanding young man and athlete. You and your fine family are an asset to Clark County.

Sounds like Glasgow put a thumping on ACS at Allen County tonight! Now both teams are tied for first in the 15th district race and are on a collision course to meet again in the championship for the 2nd straight year!

 

Great game Scotties!

How many points did Cameron Hall have?

In a regular game, I'll say Notre Dame by 5 free throws.

 

If "Lucky" Louisville shows up and hits everything they throw up, I say Louisville wins by about 8.

 

If "I can't hit the broad side of the barn from 5 ft away and get can't a board" Louisville shows up then I say Notre Dame by about 14.

Congratulations, Cardinals! Keep showing the state of Kentucky and national tv audiences what a great team you are. Not bad defense, either...holding the great Notre Dame to about 42% shooting tonight. T Will was a beast tonight! I'll take a 14-point win anyday, especially over another Big East team. Go Cards!

You can't call that on a last second shot....

Most of the time that's true. But, the refs didn't have a problem with it when Patrick Sparks walked, stepped on the out of bounds line (no foul called), and took a last second three point shot when UK played UL in Freedom Hall. The refs called Myles for a foul on Sparks and the crowd stood and watched Sparks take 3 free throws to beat UL.

I dont see any stats posted as of yet on last nights game... I'll throw some up if I do.

 

I'm excited to see what Coach Hall can do this season in the 4th! Def. got some 3 point shooters on the team. Finally have a good ball contoller with Cameron it seems like.

Cameron Hall had 20, don't know about the rest of the stats.

I know them both well.

 

Patti's is terrific. I like to go there after a good mountain bike ride at the Canal Loops, a trail on the northern most end of Land Between The Lakes.

 

There's actually a plan in the works to make a new museum at Fort Campbell, "The Wings of Liberty". It will be just off of 41A (on post though) so visitors won't need a pass to get on post.

 

Later.

There's also the General George Patton Museum located at Fort Knox. Located on 31W (Dixie Hwy) just north of the Gold Vault and the newest Kentucky Veterans Cemetery, this museum is also accessible to the public without going through checkpoints. Originally dedicated by Patton's wife in 1949, the museum was remodeled and enlarged in 1992. On the inside it contains WWI, WW2, and Post War Galleries, gift shop and the largest collection of Patton artifacts in the world. Outside are located armor and artillery displays, Armor Memorial Park and Keyes Park. It's a great place for field trips, group trips, or people who are just military history buffs. Hosting over 125,000 visitors a year, the Patton Museum is one of the largest in the entire Army's museum system. It's well worth a day's drive to take the family for a visit. Kids love to perch on the military vehicles for photo ops.

Take off Jenny Wiley and add Rupp and I think that's about got it.

Don't forget the Gold Vault at Ft. Knox.

I think the reasons for Ft Knox’s drop off in football success has a lot to do with the structure and basing changes in the Army as well as coaching. FK is primarily a training instillation with a few small “combat” or permanent party units assigned there, while Ft Campbell has an entire division plus several other large “combat” units stationed there. This in itself leads to a larger pool of players at Ft Campbell vs Ft Knox even though the schools might be closer in size and many of families at each post live off post and attend public schools. The rumor is that the Army might station more units at Ft Knox in the future which should help the program some, but the post will not be nearly as large, in terms of permanent part personnel, as Ft Campbell.

 

As far as the coaching, Coach Jaggers has already been talked about and he clearly made a difference in the Ft Knox program. Ft Campbell has undergone the same success and struggles as Ft Knox with coaching. In the 70s & 80s Coach Patterson led the Falcons to three state championships and routinely had successful teams. After Coach Patterson left the Falcons struggled until Coach Berner took over seven years ago and he has since led the Falcons in 7 straight winning seasons and a state championship last year. So, I do think coaching is a huge piece of the puzzle.

 

The other factor with any program is that success leads to more kids wanting to play. Ft Campbell has about twice as many Freshman come out as Sophomores on the team this year after winning the championship last year. Some kids will not put out the effort of weight lifting, two-a-days, etc… to go out loose 9 or 10 games every year. While other kids will put forth the effort, even if they never get to play anything but mop-up duty or JV, if they can be part of a successful program.

So glad to see the discussion of Ft. Knox and Ft. Campbell schools' football programs. A lot of the younger students and players on our message boards aren't familiar with our big military posts and their high schools. Since I live here, I know more about Ft. Knox than Campbell. Ft. Knox covers over 109,000 acres (170+ sq. mi.) spread across three counties and is Kentucky's 7th largest urban community. One town, Muldraugh, is completely encircled by the reservation. Its census shows 23,000 soldiers and families with a day-time population of over 33,000 (cilivian workers, etc.) M-F. And, of course, with the new BRAC realignment, many more families are soon expected. The construction crews are practically working night and day to get new housing ready on post, including a new, state-of-the-art, $16M Ft. Knox High School to be completed in May 2009. Also, the surrounding communities are building new homes and new schools, especially in Hardin County, anticipating the added growth. I have a lot of friends associated now and formerly with the Fort Knox program. So, it'd be great to see them rise again to their fame of yore. Go Eagles!

The senior pastor of that church, in sermons that circulated online before they were taken down last week, preaches hell for anyone who isn't saved by Jesus. America does not know enough yet about what Palin personally believes, but her church background—she now worships at a nondenominational Bible church—puts her squarely in the tradition of the old-school religious right.

 

If this is the battle ground the left wants to pursue, I can't wait.

Good points. But, I wonder why Rick Warren, pastor of the megachurch, Saddleback, in California, didn't receive such attacks and criticism from the media when he hosted the presidential debate in a so-called civil forum last month. Some publications describe Saddleback also as a nondenominational, evangelical church because its attendees are from various faiths and backgrounds. I just wondered why Palin's nondenominational, Bible church was held to such scrutiny, while Warren's was not.

At the risk of coming across as a totally unhip, rigid fundamentalist who's apparently impolite and incorrect politically, I do think it's worth seeing what Jesus Himself said about the topic. I don't believe it because a preacher said it, but I do believe it because Jesus said it.

 

Here are just a few that leaped to mind...

 

Matthew 25:31-46

31 "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. 34 "Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' 37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' 40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' 41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' 44 "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' 45 "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' 46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

 

Matthew 7:21-29

21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'"

 

John 14:6

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

 

The bottom line here is there are apparently a lot of people, doing lots of amazing churchy stuff that will not enter Heaven because they do not have a genuine relationship with Jesus. I didn't come up with these words... I just happen to believe them. :thumb:

Amen. You just made an A+ on your first exam in my NT Survey 102 class!

The military eased restrictions on soldiers living on post, which means a lot of them

live off the installation and can attend other schools in Hardin County.

 

The same thing happened at Fort Campbell in the early 1990s. They were just downright bad in the mid-90s.

While some families still like to live off base, there are

many who choose to remain on post and occupy the beautiful new "subdivision type housing" at Fort Knox instead of the old quarters of which many have been or are in the process of being torn down. With the BRAC realignment even more families will soon be moved to Ft. Knox and the student population of Ft. Knox DOD school system should greatly expand once again.

However, I believe that the waning of Ft. Knox football began with the loss of Coach Joe Jaggers to the neighboring North Hardin High School in Radcliff. Joe had his pick of talent in this large high school of about 2200 students. And he knew what to do with it. Coach Jaggers is a member of the KHSAA Sports Hall of Fame and was a highly successful football coach of winning programs at different schools throughout the state. His Trigg County teams won back-to-back Class A titles in '71 and '72; at Fort Knox his teams won Class AA championships in '83, '88, and '90 and were runners-up in '84. His teams were regional champions 12 times.

And he had two sons who were fantastic football players: Marty is coaching in Harrodsburg and the younger Crad is in his first year as coach of North Hardin where, incidentally, I read that he won his first game, knocking off Shelby County.

I'd like to see Ft. Knox become competitive once again, but it's going to be hard to replace an icon like Joe Jaggers. Maybe this new coaching staff will be a good beginning.

I am not familiar with Central Hardin. Are they the same as "Central", listed in the rankings in 3A, RANKED #1 ???

Central Hardin is one of three high schools in the Hardin County School District. It has an enrollment of about 1800 students and, even though it is listed with a Cecilia, Ky address, it is situated only a couple of miles west of Elizabethtown.

Don't know much about the Glasgow program over in the eastern part of the state, but I do know they just picked up a terrific coach, combo guard, team mom and team grandparents.

 

Whatever Glasgow hoped to achieve over the next couple of seasons just got better.

 

Best of luck to the Hall (and Hatfield) family. :thumb:

Nice compliment, Fastbreak.

Good luck to Brohm. I am a Packer fan and wish him much sucsess, I just hope that he is brought along slowly and not "thrown to the wolves" too soon.

Way to go, Brohm. You make us all very proud. Now, show Green Bay what ya' got.

Link in other thread says he took job, so who knows?

Mark it down. It is official. Jeff Hall is the new head basketball coach at Glasgow. Nice article in the Glasgow Daily Times on July 25. A complete story on Hall's hiring with details from Friday's press conference will appear in the Sunday, July 27's edition.

Is Jeff going to work in the school system in some capacity?

He will also be a faculty member, teaching health and P.E.

I am Southern Baptist although I am inbetween on the issue! BTW, did't God create everyone equal?

You've initiated a very interesting topic for discussion. It reminded me of an article that I read (and kept) several years ago on Billy Graham's daughter, Anne Graham Lotz. In the May 1, 2000 issue of Time, David Van Biema wrote the story, "The Preacher's Daughter." There were several quotes in the article by Michael Maudlin of Christianity Today and William Martin, Billy's biographer. "Even Billy says she's the best preacher in the family." ("I agree," says Franklin.) Yet the plaudit carried an asterisk. At a 1988 pastors' conference, many in Lotz' audience ostentatiously turned their chairs around so as not to face a preaching woman. Says Martin: "There was no chance of her taking [the leadership] role in the BGEA hierarchy because she's the daughter instead of the son." In fact, despite being on the BGEA board, Lotz has only once had a major part in a Crusade."

The picture of Billy Graham's daughter, at the podium, having to speak to rebelling pastors who've turned their chairs and backs on her etched an indelible image in my mind. What if the members in these guys' churches showed such disrespect to them during a Sunday morning sermon? How would they feel? Not only Anne, but how do you think Billy and Franklin and the rest of the family felt? And, most of all, how do you think God felt watching this display of disrespect? That was a fine example of senior pastoral leadership to the young associate and youth pastors in the crowd. So, Anne still chooses not to be ordained and calls herself a Bible expositor not a preacher, and her "Just Give Me Jesus" theme is technically aimed at women. The article ends with Lotz saying, "When people have a problem with women in the ministry, they need to take it up with Jesus. He's the one who put us here." Enough said.

They were an elite program, for two years.:banana:

 

All jokes aside, I am a huge UofL fan, and the program has came along way in 20 years. I think it's funny when UK fans make fun of UofL, I call it jealousy.

 

The big thing, is that most UofL fans jumped on the bandwagon and aren't real fans that remember getting trounced by Murray St. at old Cardinal Stadium. I do, and it wasn't fun. I know they aren't an elite program, and I really enjoyed the Orange Bowl and Gator bowl etc.

 

I also don't think it is fair to say they have fell completely off the map of relevance just yet. One 6-6 year, ain't the end of the world. The most ironic thing too me is that UK barely beat them last year, and it is condsidered one of the best UK teams EVER.:eek:

Great post because it is factual. Wonder if Alabama got as many jealous remarks when they went 6-6 last year. And wonder what comments will be made when Petrino sticks it to Arkansas like he did UL and the Falcons. I've always heard that people who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones.

Rural member here. :laugh:

We may not be considered rural, but we urbanites in Louisville and NKY do get the joke.

I thought my one in a million comment made my heavy sarcasm stand on its own. I will try to remember to use the sarcasm smiley in the future just so there is no confusion.

 

I made my decision not to vote for Obama when I first browsed the website of Trinity United Methodist Church more than a year ago and began to understand Black Liberation theology. This is one "typical white person" who will not be voting for a socialist or a racist- ever. If that makes me one of Obama's "greedy white folks," then so be it.

I believe Obama's (now former) church was Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC).

When was the last time a "small" school won the 7th region?

Christian Academy of Louisville (CAL) is quite unique. It is comprised of four different campuses with a total of 3069 students and is listed as the largest Protestant school in the United States. Quite impressive!

Money is the root of all evil. Yeah if people present stuff to kids (money, cars, homes for parents) then they will probably accept, I know I would as well as most people on this site would.

You make a good point; however, the scripture is "For the LOVE of money is the root of all evil..." found in I Tim. 6:10. Granted, there're a lot of greedy people in this world, but, thank goodness, there are still a few who don't let money be their god.

Since Louisville is facing NC I have had to do some soul searching. TN was easy. I could be for them because they were in the SEC. I knew it was illegal in most places but I could justify it. But Carolina has forced me to face my demons or I should say DEMON. I had, years ago, buried the emotional hatchet with UL and began rooting for them in football and basketball UNTIL Pitino began coaching there. My wife says I feel towards him like a teenage boy jilted by a girl and to get over it.

 

So help me. Louisville is in Ky and is not NC. I should be for them. I want to REALLY be for them. But remember, it is not the school it is the coach. The same coach who said one year "beating Ky is like any other game" and the next year said beating Ky was "the greatest game of his life." I wondered if it was better than the 96 title or the final fours etc,. Do I miss the great years we did not have without him? It may be like Coach Petrino and Arkansas v UL in a football game one day.

 

Someone give me a real solution. Show me how to be for UL when they play everyone but Ky. Show me how to root for them against NC. I believe I have made the first step because I want to. So be gentle.

Listen to your wife, she sounds like a smart woman! And while you're at it, cheer with her for the UL women who also play North Carolina on Saturday!

This commercial has a basketball rival theme to go along with March Madness. They have images of fans frm Duke-North Carolina, Southern Cal and UCLA, and others, as rivals being friendly and helping one another. Then they show Louisville and Memphis doing the same (some guy wiping mayonnaise from a rival's mouth:creepy:). Wouldn't Kentucky be the obvious choice as Louisville's rival? I realize UK and UL are not in the same conference, but neither are Memphis and UL. And the Cats and Cards are in the same state separated by 80 miles of interstate.

It's no big deal, but one would think they would do a little research on a subject like that.

Someone else from the media asked the same question and was told that when Mitch Barnhart was contacted, he said that the commercial "was not in the best interest for UK." Go figure. Guess it's the same reason that Monday, Labor Day, is not in the best interest of UK football either...