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  1. 27 minutes ago, YOUTH2019 said:

    What happens if he for some reason he does not win that again.  You would think he would be a clear cut favorite but does it look bad on him if he loses the title even after staying.  Double edge sword.  I assume he is staying just for football.  

    It’s extremely hard to win Mr Football once, and you think if he doesn’t win it again, then that somehow would make him look bad?

    The Heisman trophy has only been won twice by the same guy, in the history of the award.

     

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  2. Congrats to Ben Johnson on the win, but this is a serious question.

    Why does it take 4 months to name a Mr Football winner, but votes for Mr Basketball must be turned in before the Sweet 16?

    Why the rush to get Basketball turned in, when the AP was clearly in no hurry to announce Mr Football?

    I think anybody that watched the Sweet 16, would like to recast their vote, or maybe would have at least reconsidered their vote.

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  3. 33 minutes ago, theguru said:

    I thought WKU was perfect for the Kentucky High School Football Finals but I also remember some scheduling conflicts that made WKU unworkable. 

     

    33 minutes ago, theguru said:

    I thought WKU was perfect for the Kentucky High School Football Finals but I also remember some scheduling conflicts that made WKU unworkable. 

    WKU should never host the finals again!!

    They put teams in batting cages with no running water as a locker room!! Absolute joke to be rewarded for a trip to a state finals and to be put in a batting cage with a 10 minute walk to the field as your reward. UK should be the host for as long as they can accommodate it. I can promise you, once on the field, the kids could care less how empty the stadium may look, it’s all about the experience!

    Lexington is so much more convenient for the majority of the state than Bowling Green.

  4. 30 minutes ago, Tkinslow said:

    I wonder if that’s why Mayfield didn’t try to schedule a tough small Tennessee school like they have in the past because it wouldn’t help their RPI.

    I’m sure that it definitely came into play when they were making the schedule. The upside to beating a really good out of state opponent is minimal, but if you lose to them, then you get zero secondary points, even if that team has a really good season. It’s just not worth the risk to play those type of teams.

  5. As far as in state teams, they need to put more weight on if you play up in class and lose to a really good team, then you should get rewarded for that. As it currently stands, if you play a good much higher class team, and lose, you are not rewarded for throwing your hat in the ring with the big boys. A perfect example of this, was this past year. Beechwood’s only 2 losses were to 5A Cov Cath by 2, and 6A Dixie by 8. Beechwood also had wins over 4A Corbin, and 6A Ryle, but yet, they were on the road for the semi finals to play West Carter, whose best win was against 3A Russell, but they had a bunch of wins against mediocre to not good 4A and 5A schools. 

    I think what you see happen in 1A, with KCD stacking up wins against mediocre to bad 4A and 5A schools and they pad their RPI. Pikeville plays much better competition and they end up worse in the RPI because of it.

    These are just 2 examples, there are several just like these, across the state. 

    As far as out of state competition, that needs to change as well. Beechwood has several really good teams they could match up with across the river, but the only teams in Ohio that are willing to play Beechwood, are the ones that view Beechwood as a Harbin points cow. Nobody in Ohio that thinks they will lose to Beechwood, will play Beechwood, and with the current RPI situation in Ky, Beechwood would be dumb to play an Ohio team that would more than likely beat them, because beating them is a low reward, and losing to an Ohio team is a high risk situation.

    Just my thoughts on the situation!

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  6. Scheduling for really good, small school programs is going to get increasingly more difficult. The RPI has changed everything! Bigger schools don’t get much of a reward for beating a smaller school, and if it’s a smaller school such as a Mayfield, Beechwood, LCA type of team, that they would in most cases probably lose to, then the mediocre 5A and 6A schools are not really going to line up to take this chance. This leaves teams like Mayfield to either play a bunch of really good 5A-6A schools, or find some mediocre 4A, 5A type teams to play. Unfortunately, the RPI is changing the way teams construct their schedules. 

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  7. This is a serious question, what has happened to Frankfort? They used to always field a competitive team, and had some very good teams. I’m not taking a shot at them, I’m just curious why have they dipped so far in the last few years? Are they losing players to FC that they used to be able to keep at Frankfort? 

    They went from battling Beechwood and even beating them one year, to getting beat by Eminence. Seems like a really fast free fall.

  8. 16 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

     It is ironic that in this day and age when young people believe every other word must start with an F that people are worried about tough language. 

    Personally, I think all profanity is stupid and is usually said by stupid people. I see no use for it but I am in a clear minority today.

    Just for kicks and giggles ... https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/worried-about-your-foul-mouth-swearing-could-actually-be-good-for-you

    And this ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9189539/Science-reveals-swearing-sign-intelligence-creativity-helps-endure-pain.html

  9. 1 minute ago, theguru said:

    I read that article but I have a hard time accepting that Cam Hergott is one of the "victims" here.  

    Well when almost all the MAC schools asked him to come to their camps this past summer to show them that he had improved his arm strength, and then those camps did not happen, then I would say that he was a victim of circumstance. His arm was much improved from his junior year, and he did not get to showcase that.

  10. If Covid doesn’t happen, Hergott would have had multiple D1 scholarships. All of the summer camps at Universities were canceled, this year didn’t count against player eligibility, and the transfer portal turned into the Wild West this year because players can transfer out and not have to sit. All of these factors came into play this year. Hergott playing at Beechwood has nothing to do with him not getting a D1 offer.

    Beechwood plays a tougher schedule than many of the bigger schools in the state, and the kid won Mr Football, I don’t think where he went to school was the reason he didn’t get an offer. It was a crazy year for seniors, and had he gotten to show his improved arm strength at those one day camps, he would have had plenty of MAC offers.

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  11. 19 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

    Can someone decipher that for me?

    Aug 13 vs. Scott County (Scrimmage)
    Aug 20 at Manual
    Aug 27 vs. St. Xavier
    Sep 3 at Butler
    Sep 10 at Belfry
    Sep 17 vs. Fern Creek
    Sep 24 at South Warren
    Oct 1 at Shelby County (District)
    Oct 8 vs. Waggener (District)
    Oct 15 at North Oldham (District)
    Oct 22 vs. Franklin County (District)
    Oct 29 - BYE

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  12. 6 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

    In Class 1A for 17 years from 2002-2018, there was only one season (2006) that neither Beechwood nor Mayfield was in the championship game.

    That 17 year run in 1A began in 2002 with Mayfield beating Beechwood 14-7 in the 2002 title game. During those 17 years, Mayfield won 5 championships and Beechwood won 6 championships.

    We can add that the success of these two programs is continuing on in 2A. From 2015 to present, 2016 is the only 2A title game with no Mayfield or Beechwood. Mayfield moved up to 2A in 2015 and promptly won the 2A title. Mayfield missed the title game in 2016 but then was runnerup in 2017-19. Beechwood moved up to 2A in 2019 and then won their first 2A title in 2020.

    Side note: Since 1991, Beechwood has been in the title game in their class 17 times and has won 14 championships. Over the past 30 years, the only program that has been more successful in Kentucky is Trinity with 16 championships.

    Beechwood has 14 titles in 18 state finals appearances. Runners-Up In 95, 02, 03, and 15.

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  13. 11 hours ago, Buck2 said:

    So that means Deaton won it the year he left. I’ll do better research next time. 

    I couldn’t tell you the last time Dayton has won that district. It’s been Beechwood or New Cath and Bellevue every year since at least 1976.

    Ludlow won it in 75, Beechwood in 74, so it would have to be sometime before 74 since Dayton won the district.

  14. 4 hours ago, Buck2 said:

    Why not a favorable side? He has won everywhere he has been correct? I believe he won a district title his past 3 years at NCC, he won district in 6A at Campbell, won the 4A district at Holmes, and I think he won the district at Dayton as well but correct me if I am wrong on that one. 

    Lickert never won the district at Dayton.

  15. 1 hour ago, Bill W. said:

    I believe the award should go to Gillis. Beechwood did not win when they played big competition. It's pretty easy to pad the stat book playing Newport, just my imo. 

    Beechwood’s first four games were against 4A Regional Finalist Corbin, 5A State Semifinalist Cov Cath, 6A Ryle, and 6A Regionals Finalist Dixie. So those 4 games which made up 33% of Beechwood’s schedule, Hergott put up 1,204 Total Yards, which made up 34% of his total yards for the season.

    Beechwood went 2-2 in those games and lost to Cov Cath by 2 and Dixie by 8. They beat Corbin on the road, which was Corbin’s only loss until they lost to Johnson Central in the playoffs. 

    As far as “padding” the stat book against Newport, Hergott rarely played past the 3rd quarter of any game from Week 5 until the semi finals.

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  16. 8 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

    Not only Hergott, but Nick Broyles of Franklin County should be in the top three. Broyles will be #5 and Hergott #6 in completion percent in a season in KY history when they update the record book.  

    Hergott should be #9 in career completion percent in KY state history at 65.5% when they update the records. A better career completion percent than Brian Brohm, Elijah Sindelar, Gino Guidugli, Jared Lorenzen and Tim Couch - to name a few.

    Hergott generated 3,545 yards offense this year. Sheron was more than 1,000 yards behind Hergott with 2,481 yards. Wimsatt had 2,478 offensive yards. McNamee had 1,660 offensive yards, almost 2,000 yards less than Hergott. 

    Finally, let's add in Hergott earned a ring this season and none of the others did. Hergott won two state titles as QB (2018 and 2020).

    Great post and completely agree, but Hergott actually finished higher than Broyles in completion percentage this year.

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