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"BY FAR"

 

Regular season champs, post season flameouts. Thanks for playing. Win some hardware and then beat your chest about how good SK has been.

Oh, where exactly is Cov Caths hardware? Or, BW hardware when Mayfield was in their class????

Man SK is not as good as Cov Cath. There is a reason Cov Cath has several guys who will have there full college paid for by playing football, and SK will most likely not have any. That is not to bash SK, it's just reality. SK would have very few starters start at Cov Cath. I mean when you have big time 6'5" athletes at wide receiver and a D1 QB, that's just hard to stop at the High school level.

That may be true this year, but over the last decade, SK has been BY FAR the most consistent winner in NKy and better than Cov Cath most years.

Furthermore, BW and Cov Cath both are benefitting from substandard football programs in Boone County. Take that player migration away, and both programs come back to earth!

3 - 13. Going nowhere with that OL.

Though I would never wish it on any Coach because we all work hard at what we do, now that the first round is over, which programs do you feel need a change in leadership?

 

Try to be constructive and not just bash coaches because you are an angry fan. Please have reason for your claim other than "He Sucks" etc.

 

Always interesting to see how people feel about their staff and team.

Leadership extends well beyond the HC to athletics administration, principal and school board. Different school districts (and privates) have different priorities. Academic ratings typically fall into a higher priority than on field athletic achievement. That being said, other than a moral failing, I don't believe there is any good reason to fire a coach. Pay is so low in this state, they are essentially volunteers for a job that is so demanding, that the pay in some states is 100 k plus!

Is there any second guessing from the Ryle faithfull regarding how Chisolm was used in the last two regular season games? I thought that nearly 50 carries against SK might come with a price later on down the road. I can understand Ryle wants to beat SK at all cost, but given they are no longer district rivals, should Chisolm have been used that way, and should he have sat out against Dixie?

Against who?

Ballard

I believe we are on the same page.

 

Additionally, any talk of sending him to Gitmo is silly in my opinion. I don't know if that is still a topic or not but it is just silly.

Why burden the taxpayers with incarceration and judiciary costs? There is no constitutional protection. There is no applicability of the Geneva convention. If you don't want to send him to Gitmo, give him to the Saudis, they don't have the PC cultural reservations we have in this country.

Not even for legally documented immigrants?

Absolutely. If they are suspected of either supporting terrorism, or, of not reporting on suspicious activity.

So is that true for any Americans who are abroad on a Visa? They can be readily rounded up and incarcerated by those governments?

Not incarcerated, deported.

There is no moral necessity for presumed innocence for those that are not citizens!

So all members of your extended family share their same beliefs and ideology? I know mine sure as hell don't.

 

It's ridiculous to think that every Muslim thinks and believes the same sets of beliefs and ideology.

Do I need to quote the violent mandates of the Quran for you?

So what does the family have to do with that?

 

Our liberties and freedoms are difficult things and can't just be readily jettisoned for those we deem "Unworthy."

 

I already think they have considered the assailant as not afforded Miranda Rights because it was an act of terrorism. I think that's understandable. To now go after his family smacks more of vendetta than justice.

Of course you go for his family and friends. Look at the Boston bombing - brothers, San Bernardino shooting - husband and wife. So what does this man’s wife know? What does his mosque know. The same mosque associated with the 9/11 hijackers, btw. This isn’t some lone wolf as some want you to believe.

Not sure. But when the argument is made to increase the internal spying due to terrorism - that has predominately come from first of second generation radicalized immigrants - the question has to asked - why not keep the bad people out or kick them out. And if its 'grey' maybe err on suspending the visa or green card.

So you want to hold innocent people accountable for the actions of criminals? That's the most absurd thing I've ever seen on here.

Who created this?

I don't see any problem with ending the Lottery Visa system and even the bringing of so many others "under their Visa" acceptance.

 

Again though, are these family members part of the problem?

 

Let me also ask: What do you do with the families of domestic Terrorists like Timothy McVeigh or the Pollard guy in Las Vegas?

Pollard and McVeigh did not commit acts of violence to advance an ideology shared by their extended family and mosque members. They do not have extended networks of support (both local and off shore) like Islamists do.

So what does the family have to do with that?

 

Our liberties and freedoms are difficult things and can't just be readily jettisoned for those we deem "Unworthy."

 

I already think they have considered the assailant as not afforded Miranda Rights because it was an act of terrorism. I think that's understandable. To now go after his family smacks more of vendetta than justice.

Of course you go for his family and friends. Look at the Boston bombing - brothers, San Bernardino shooting - husband and wife. So what does this man’s wife know? What does his mosque know. The same mosque associated with the 9/11 hijackers, btw. This isn’t some lone wolf as some want you to believe.

Not sure. But when the argument is made to increase the internal spying due to terrorism - that has predominately come from first of second generation radicalized immigrants - the question has to asked - why not keep the bad people out or kick them out. And if its 'grey' maybe err on suspending the visa or green card.

So you want to hold innocent people accountable for the actions of criminals? That's the most absurd thing I've ever seen on here.

Who created this?

Terror suspect brought 23 relatives into country once he gained visa status. Anybody want to continue to argue against consequences for family members of terrorists?

Trump reveals New York suspect brought in 23 relatives

What if their spouse is an American Citizen?

 

I agree about the label as I think it is more than a criminal act as well. I heard this morning that he doesn't fall under the Miranda Rights protection.

 

What more is to be done?

 

You mention deportation of families. Do you really think that will end these? These terrorists aren't thinking of families when they do these acts.

 

I might also add that I can't recall a relative of one of the terrorists in the last 15 years perpetrating a terrorist act. Is there a correlation between repeat terrorists in the same family here in the US? There may be but I can't cite one off the top of my head. So how does deporting the family prevent future incidents of terror?

These people are quite sane and care about their families and mosques. Furthermore, muslims do not report on terror planning because they are afraid of the extremist. They need something else to fear for the failure to report extremist planning!

Not sure except our surveillance agencies work to infiltrate current avenues such as mosques and circles of influence that may lead to radicalized individuals who are plotting.

 

The truth is that there is no way to "get them all" and there is no way to "Stop them all." It's the tragic truth of our current world.

 

Attacking their churches and/or families with criminal charges if they are only accusations will do more to inflame the radicals IMO.

The only you stop this is by implementing consequences for the families and mosques of these people. Deportation as a minimum. Stop thinking of terror as a criminal act. It is an act of war and until we decide to treat this as a war, with our front yards as a battle ground, we relive the status quo over and over again!

The diversity visa lottery has been in place in some form since 1988, but the current iteration of the program was outlined in the 1990 Immigration Act, signed by then-President George H.W. Bush.

 

The bill had received bipartisan support, including from then-Rep. Chuck Schumer of New York, who served on the House immigration subcommittee at the time.

 

Irish-Americans initially pushed for the program after the Immigration Act of 1965 implemented rules prioritizing family reunification and skilled workers, disfavoring many Irish immigrants, according to The Washington Post.

 

In the late 1980s, two Democratic lawmakers from Massachusetts — Rep. Brian J. Donnell and Sen. Ted Kennedy — proposed allowing 10,000 visas on a first-come, first-served basis, allotted to those immigrants "adversely affected" by the 1965 Immigration Act.

 

The current program has since expanded the amount of visas available and eliminated the Irish bias, requiring that no single country receive more than 7% of the available visas per year. In recent years, most visas have gone to immigrants from African countries, State Department data show.

 

Diversity visa lottery explained; Trump criticized it after NYC attack - Business Insider

Schumer on Diversity Visa: 'This is an Excellent Program' - Breitbart

So what does the family have to do with that?

 

Our liberties and freedoms are difficult things and can't just be readily jettisoned for those we deem "Unworthy."

 

I already think they have considered the assailant as not afforded Miranda Rights because it was an act of terrorism. I think that's understandable. To now go after his family smacks more of vendetta than justice.

So what do you propose for deterrence for those willing to die for their cause?

Brian Hoyer signed by Patriots today. So the Pats and 49ers trade backup QBs, and Pats net two draft picks. Pure Belichek!

Who created this?

Schumer. Just another ploy to expand the liberal base.

So you want to hold innocent people accountable for the actions of criminals? That's the most absurd thing I've ever seen on here.

The need to distinguish criminal behaviour from an act of war is necessary here. Our country is a battlefield for our enemy, it is about time we treat it as such!

Not if he stays in NY, too sensitive for that he will be given basic cable and 3 meals a day.

Just saw that he "Could" be held as an enemy combatant and held without Miranda Rights or a lawyer and basically sent straight to Gitmo.

 

But that could happen only if no one had read him his Miranda Rights, if they did then he has to be treated as a criminal and go through the court system.

He gets it. Shame the leaders of NY dont.

Imam Tawhidi (@Imamofpeace) on Twitter

If this guy is sent to prison, he will spend his time converting and recruiting other inmates to his ideology!

Personally, I have never thought much of Paul Alexander as offensive line coach. I remember too much of the terrible offensive lines he had the first part of his career with the Bengals. People may not realize he has been offensive line coach since the mid-90's. He was hired by Dave Shula and has survived all the head coach changes over the years - it could only happen in Cincinnati.

 

He finally hit on some good picks like Willie Anderson and Andrew Whitworth that made Alexander look like he knows what he is doing. Add in a couple other solid picks in that time and the line looked halfway decent. Now that those studs are gone and Alexander missed again on high draft picks, Alexander's line looks bad again.

 

Here are offensive linemen drafted in the first three rounds under Alexander:

 

1995 - Rd. 2 OT Melvin Tuten ... flop, started 9 games as a Bengal

1996 - Rd. 1 OT Willie Anderson ... stud

..........Rd. 3 OT Ken Blackman ... flop, lasted 3 years

1997 - Rd. 3 C Rod Payne ... flop, one year, never started a game

1998 - Rd. 3 OG Mike Goff ... good pick; started 4 years in Cin. and 5 years in SD

2002 - Rd. 1 OT Levi Jones ... solid pick but not #10 in the draft quality

2003 - Rd. 2 Eric Steinbach ... solid pick; started for 7 years

2006 - Rd. 2 OT Andrew Whitworth ... stud

2009 - Rd. 1 OT Andre Smith ... flop

2012 - Rd 1 OG Kevin Zeitler ... solid pick; 5 year starter

2015 - Rd. 1 OT Cedric Ogbuehi ... as of now, flop

..........Rd. 2 OT Jake Fisher ... as of now, flop

 

Three good draft picks in 23 years. Mediocre at best offensive lines in the majority of his 23 years. Am I missing something? Does Bengals management deserve some of the blame for not signing back some of those good/above average linemen? What are your thoughts - Alexander good or bad?

VOR, are you sure you are not assuming that this coach has much influence over who is drafted, and who is resigned? I put the personnel decisions squarely on the GM/HC and I believe Mavin functions as both.

Offensive Line is just a profoundly undervalued position at every level of football. You see nfl franchises all over the place let pro bowl caliber OL go (Whitworth) and replace them with untested rookies or free agents. Just the list you present above illustrates how few high quality OL there are in this league.

I fault the Bengals for letting Whitworth go. Pro bowl caliber OL are irreplaceable at any price.

Off hand, these are the teams that have undervalued OL :

Cincy

Denver

New England

Seattle

As long as we have constitutional protections for people who are at war with us, we are screwed! You cannot treat acts of war as criminal events. In order to stop this, there needs to be consequences for the families and Mosques of these jihadis!

This is Bill's chance to give a final middle finger to the league by signing Kaepernick.

I'm missing some context here. Was BB resistant to the league signing Kap? If so, he is looking like a genius now!

As a Pats fan, this is scary when tour starting qb is 40 years old. As far as SF goes, pat qbs that perform well in NE have a tendency to fade elsewhere (ie Mallet).

This is pne year where the healthiest wins.