Voice of Reason

Yowza! What a win!

Go Tigers!

Great game by Abbott last night.

Unfortunately the injuries keep coming. Fraley hit on the hand by a pitch and had to leave the game.

Remember before the season when we were wondering where Bell was going to find at bats for all these guys? Now we are watching Mike Ford play every night. That great depth evaporated in a flash.

1 hour ago, ChickenWyngz said:

There’s 1.

Good job CW.

41 minutes ago, theguru said:

The Celtics got a little lucky and won in OT 133-128 in Game 1. 

Agree. I look for a better game 2 for the Celtics.

Who will get more preferential treatment: Scheffler or the police officer?

Just now, theguru said:

Go Pacers!

I've been a Boston fan since Nate Archibald played there so we'll be on opposite sides of that one.

The conspiracy theory crowd is going to need to work overtime on this playoff season. New York is out. No NY; No LA; No Philly; No Chicago. Indianapolis and Minneapolis are in? What are the NBA and their refs up to?

Relying on young players at the heart of your team is a roll of the dice. Had Elly at the plate two different times late in the game with runners at 2nd and 3rd and he struck out. Steer also up in one of those situations and couldn't get the key hit needed, although he worked a walk after fouling off 3 or 4 pitches that he should have crushed. He actually did crush one but pulled it foul.

1 hour ago, sportsfan41 said:

I don't think anyone insinuated such a thing. But he's not intentionally performing bad at the combine. He's just doing what was expected when he announced he was entering the NBA draft. 

It's a bit of a joke, and a comment on how there is a conspiracy theory for everything. I believe there was a post talking about some conspiracy theory that started me down this path.

3 hours ago, sportsfan41 said:

Is that what he was doing at USC as well?

Sure. He probably didn't really have a cardiac incident either. "They" faked it all.

1 minute ago, sportsfan41 said:

For those charges, you should. 

At intake, they do a record review don't they? Clean record, no serious injuries involved, over crowded jails, no risk of not showing up for court ... I think any of us get out on OR or bond.

And I will throw this back at the celebrity issue. On the other side there is the police officer involved issue. I think the only reason any of us would not get out is because it is a police officer that was involved. And the courts will protect the police - and rightfully so in almost every case.

58 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

No body cam footage. Most predictable thing I’ve heard all week. 

 

Is that because he was a detective and just helping out due to need? Louisville police have to be on a strict body cam usage program with all they have gone through over the past couple years.

2 hours ago, theguru said:

Scheffler is rich and famous and the best I can tell the majority of people and almost everyone on TV are in Camp Scheffler so I doubt much happens to him.  But if that were you or me we would probably still be rotting in jail. 

I don't buy that either. We may not have been out of jail in 1 hour, but none of us would have spent a night in jail.

1 minute ago, theguru said:

Scheffler either complied or he didn't. 

It is a gray world, not a black and white one. There are always nuances to the story.

9 hours ago, theguru said:

I disagree, we have the no nonsense post arrest complaint and the eyewitness testimony of someone that thinks they are helping Scheffler only they are actually incriminating Scheffler and impeaching his defense narrative. 

I have at least 10 questions to ask to get more facts about how this happened. I am not jumping straight to the police side and co-signing. Almost the opposite. It will take a lot more to convince me Scheffler is guilty of these charges.

Right now, this feels to me like the first release of the NCAA college football playoff rankings. We know we only have maybe half the facts we need.

28 minutes ago, sportsfan41 said:

I've seen that a few times, but no explanation as to how it was marked. This happened at dusk, before sunlight during rain. Did the car have a bow on it or what?

I have heard there is a "P" on the front windshield and signage on the car that says official vehicle.

Unbelievable. What was Q doing and what was Maria doing? If you think you are getting votes, and every member of the jury was blindsided, why in the world don't you play your idol? Maria better find an idol and win every challenge. Same for Charlie. Otherwise, it is Liz, Kenzie and Ben in the final 3.

10 minutes ago, theguru said:

I think you are way over complicating it, either Scheffler complied with the officer or he did not comply.

And nothing on a car (not any kind of get out of jail free card) gives anyone permission to violate the law. 

Which officer should he comply with? The one that says go or the one that says stop?

6 minutes ago, theguru said:

The fact that another officer may or may not have directed Scheffler to do something prior to his contact with the arresting officer has nothing to do with the charge or the mental state.  Think of it as chapters in a book, even if another officer directed him to the location where the arresting officer stopped him, that was the previous chapter.

The recklessness would come in assuming Scheffler did not comply with the arresting officers order to stop and as a result of Scheffler not stopping/continuing on, the officer was hurt.  That would be the basis for the charge. 

Sketchy to prove IMO.

Another fact. Scheffler's car was clearly marked as a player's car. The officer should have known and recognized that. He should have known this wasn't some random person trying to avoid traffic.

I saw a launch once and we were in Vero Beach, about 70 miles away. It was still impressive.

3 minutes ago, theguru said:

Not in my experience, not at all, but that was a long time ago and in a different county. 

If the report is true another officer directed Scheffler across the median, reckless flew out the door.

2 minutes ago, theguru said:

That is why I added Assault 3rd, the mental state there is recklessly.  Here it is again:

508.025 Assault in the third degree.
(1) A person is guilty of assault in the third degree when the actor:
(a) Recklessly, with a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or intentionally
causes or attempts to cause physical injury to:
1. A state, county, city, or federal peace officer;

I guess there is a chance on that, but it as slim as slim can get.

5 hours ago, theguru said:

Thanks for that.  The citation says Assault, 2nd Degree - Police Officer.  So I am too long in the tooth to know why it is charged that way when the actual statue doesn't include the part about a Police Officer but I assume it means the criminal elements rise above Assault in the 3rd Degree which is the original charge used in cases like this and I also assume that means Assault 3rd is a lesser, included offense.  I need someone smarter than me to sort this out for us but for measure here is the Assault 3rd KRS:

508.025 Assault in the third degree.
(1) A person is guilty of assault in the third degree when the actor:
(a) Recklessly, with a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument, or intentionally
causes or attempts to cause physical injury to:
1. A state, county, city, or federal peace officer;
2. An employee of a detention facility, or state residential treatment facility
or state staff secure facility for residential treatment which provides for
the care, treatment, or detention of a juvenile charged with or
adjudicated delinquent because of a public offense or as a youthful
offender;
3. A healthcare provider as defined in KRS 311.821, if the event occurs
while the healthcare provider is providing medical care in an emergency
room of a hospital;
4. An employee of the Department for Community Based Services
employed as a social worker to provide direct client services, if the
event occurs while the worker is performing job-related duties;
5. Paid or volunteer emergency medical services personnel certified or
licensed pursuant to KRS Chapter 311A, if the event occurs while
personnel are performing job-related duties;
6. A paid or volunteer member of an organized fire department, if the
event occurs while the member is performing job-related duties;
7. Paid or volunteer rescue squad personnel affiliated with the Division of
Emergency Management of the Department of Military Affairs or a
local disaster and emergency services organization pursuant to KRS
Chapter 39F, if the event occurs while personnel are performing jobrelated duties;
8. A probation and parole officer;
9. A transportation officer appointed... [redacted]
10. A public or private elementary or secondary school or school district
classified or certified employee, school bus driver, or other school
employee acting in the course and scope of the employee's employment;
or
11. A public or private elementary or secondary school or school district
volunteer acting in the course and scope of that person's volunteer
service for the school or school district;
(b) Being a person confined in a detention facility, or a juvenile in a state
residential treatment facility or state staff secure facility for residential
treatment which provides for the care, treatment, or detention of a juvenile
charged with or adjudicated delinquent because of a public offense or as a
youthful offender, inflicts physical injury upon or throws or causes feces, or
urine, or other bodily fluid to be thrown upon an employee of the facility; or
(c) Intentionally causes a person, whom the actor knows or reasonably should
know to be a peace officer discharging official duties, to come into contact
with saliva, vomit, mucus, blood, seminal fluid, urine, or feces without the
consent of the peace officer.
(2) (a) For a violation of subsection (1)(a) of this section, assault in the third degree
is a Class D felony, unless the offense occurs during a declared emergency as
defined by KRS 39A.020 arising from a natural or man-made disaster, within
the area covered by the emergency declaration, and within the area impacted
by the disaster, in which case it is a Class C felony.
(b) For a violation of subsection (1)(b) of this section, assault in the third degree
is a Class D felony.
(c) For violations of subsection (1)(c) of this section, assault in the third degree is
a Class B misdemeanor, unless the assault is with saliva, vomit, mucus, blood,
seminal fluid, urine, or feces from an adult who knows that he or she has a
serious communicable disease and competent medical or epidemiological
evidence demonstrates that the specific type of contact caused by the actor is
likely to cause transmission of the disease or condition, in which case it is a
Class A misdemeanor.
(d) As used in paragraph (c) of this subsection, "serious communicable disease"
means a non-airborne disease that is transmitted from person to person and
determined to have significant, long-term consequences on the physical health
or life activities of the person infected.
Effective: June 29, 2023
History: Amended 2023 Ky. Acts ch. 109, sec. 4, effective June 29, 2023. -- Amended
2022 Ky. Acts ch. 151, sec. 2, effective July 14, 2022. -- Amended 2018 Ky. Acts
ch. 189, sec. 1, effective July 14, 2018. -- Amended 2005 Ky. Acts ch. 128, sec. 1,
effective June 20, 2005. -- Amended 2002 Ky. Acts ch. 208, sec. 1, effective July 15,
2002; and ch. 360, sec. 1, effective July 15, 2002. -- Amended 2000 Ky. Acts ch. 14,
sec. 56, effective July 14, 2000; ch. 193, sec. 17, effective July 14, 2000; and ch.
345, sec. 7, effective July 14, 2000. -- Amended 1996 Ky. Acts ch. 345, sec. 1,
effective July 15, 1996. -- Amended 1994 Ky. Acts ch. 397, sec. 1, effective July 15,
1994. -- Amended 1990 Ky. Acts ch. 380, sec. 1, effective July 13, 1990. -- Created
1982 Ky. Acts ch. 429, sec. 1, effective July 15, 1982.
Legislative Research Commission Note (6/20/2005). 2005 Ky. Acts ch. 128, sec. 1,
which included an amendment to this statute, provides that the Act shall be known as
the "Brenda D. Cowan Act."

I see zero chance either of those assault charges stick. I haven't heard any report of what happened where it sounds like Scheffler intentionally tried to cause harm.

1 minute ago, Stepchild68 said:

I have noticed that Coach Dew has a huge fan club here. The last time is was speculated mayfield was open a lot of folks were talking up Coach Dew.   That may have been just some misinformation or smoke screen.  I do know that Coach Dew has some Head Coaching Experience in KY (I believe 2 season at Lone Oak before Jack Haskins took over the program and won big time with Oakers) but not sure about his out of state career.

My question is this..... based on age along is Coach Dew a viable long term solution like the Cardinal Faithful are accustom to or will we be having this conversation again in 5 or 6 years ??

If he is there 5 years, I believe that exceeds the average tenure of a head football coach. I know Mayfield coaches have a much longer average tenure, but 5 years is above average state wide.