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Simon Kenton 47 Dixie 37

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Simon Kenton extends to (3-0)

 

(Unofficial)

 

Wainscott 12-13 pts. 6 rebounds

 

Brown 10 pts. 9 rebounds

 

Stepenson I believe was leading scorer for SK and not exactly sure about all her points. 15?

 

14 - 10 Dixie 1st

21 - 18 SK Half

36 - 27 SK 3rd

47 - 37 SK Final

 

Good "D" for SK but offense was a bit off. Many missed shots. If they'd made 1/4 of what they missed this is a 30+ win.

 

Big game @ WV on Saturday evening.

not a great game for Simon going into the game with Walton.

Not sure what the problem is with Dixie... For the second straight year, Varsity player quit during the season?????

 

Sounds like I'd be looking at the root cause...

Not sure what the problem is with Dixie... For the second straight year, Varsity player quit during the season?????

 

Sounds like I'd be looking at the root cause...

 

Middle school program at the high school level...... and the A.D. doesn't seem to care.

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Middle school program at the high school level...... and the A.D. doesn't seem to care.

 

Not sure I understand. The AD at middle or HS?

I think what COLONEL is saying is that the coach, a former middle school coach, is running his Varsity program the same way he ran Turkeyfoot (I think).

 

I'd tend to agree. Over the last year and a half, I've seen nothing from Coach that makes me think that Dixie will have even a remote chance at doing anything in the post season. Practices appear chaotic and unstructured. Games appear severely under coached...

One man's opinion.

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Elkus was handed a real mess IMO. There is also another dynamic at play here. In the MS the play is really thin. The addition of the Boone middle schools back into the league has done a couple things...

 

1. It has given MS teams a schedule as long as the HS. 26 games before league championships and any tournaments. That is good and bad. Lots of playtime but a long whipping if you have a low talent swing or in Kenton MS position cherry picked teams.

 

2. HS in Kenton are all pulling up seventh - eighth graders. This places Kenton MS at disadvantage since I know for a fact that Summit View is playing with only 7 eighth graders and Turkeyfoot is using seventh graders to field an 8th grade team. Additionally, Summit View has finished a game or two with only four players because of injuries.

 

3. That starts a chain reaction problem because you start moving 6th - 7th graders all around and according to NKMSAA rules players can only play one game a night and it must be up not down.

 

4. MS programs in Kenton have traditionally thinned themselves out from the sixth grade season to the eighth grade season. Start with 14-15 and end three years later with 8-10.

 

5. It is obvious that the lack of play between Kenton and Boone MS girls has hurt Kenton over the last few years. Kenton pushed around a lot of smaller schools during that period and neither the coaches nor players were really prepared for the readmission of Boone. You coach and play to a different level based on the competition.

 

(MPO) If HS coaches became more involved in the whole development, process rather than cherry picking players all HS programs would benefit.

Elkus was handed a real mess IMO. There is also another dynamic at play here. In the MS the play is really thin. The addition of the Boone middle schools back into the league has done a couple things...

 

1. It has given MS teams a schedule as long as the HS. 26 games before league championships and any tournaments. That is good and bad. Lots of playtime but a long whipping if you have a low talent swing or in Kenton MS position cherry picked teams.

 

2. HS in Kenton are all pulling up seventh - eighth graders. This places Kenton MS at disadvantage since I know for a fact that Summit View is playing with only 7 eighth graders and Turkeyfoot is using seventh graders to field an 8th grade team. Additionally, Summit View has finished a game or two with only four players because of injuries.

 

3. That starts a chain reaction problem because you start moving 6th - 7th graders all around and according to NKMSAA rules players can only play one game a night and it must be up not down.

 

4. MS programs in Kenton have traditionally thinned themselves out from the sixth grade season to the eighth grade season. Start with 14-15 and end three years later with 8-10.

 

5. It is obvious that the lack of play between Kenton and Boone MS girls has hurt Kenton over the last few years. Kenton pushed around a lot of smaller schools during that period and neither the coaches nor players were really prepared for the readmission of Boone. You coach and play to a different level based on the competition.

 

(MPO) If HS coaches became more involved in the whole development, process rather than cherry picking players all HS programs would benefit.

 

I don't disagree with any of your points. I firmly beleive that MS need to play at MS, with the rarest of exceptions. There was a thread about this time last year that covered all this.

 

However, I also think that once you get to a Varsity level, no matter what the age of the kids on the team, you have to treat it like a Varsity practise. Any coach that repeatedly loses experience because of offcourt (non game-day) situations needs to be put under the magnifying glass.

 

Easy for me to say though, I'm not coaching.

I disagree that he was handed a mess. He inherited 4 returning starters that were coming off of a 12 win season the year before. They won 6 games last year and probably won't win that many this year. 2 starters from last year did not go out for the team this year and another starter recently quit. These high school kids deserve better. Parents and players alike are frustrated with this program.

Elkus was handed a real mess IMO. There is also another dynamic at play here. In the MS the play is really thin. The addition of the Boone middle schools back into the league has done a couple things...

 

1. It has given MS teams a schedule as long as the HS. 26 games before league championships and any tournaments. That is good and bad. Lots of playtime but a long whipping if you have a low talent swing or in Kenton MS position cherry picked teams.

 

2. HS in Kenton are all pulling up seventh - eighth graders. This places Kenton MS at disadvantage since I know for a fact that Summit View is playing with only 7 eighth graders and Turkeyfoot is using seventh graders to field an 8th grade team. Additionally, Summit View has finished a game or two with only four players because of injuries.

 

3. That starts a chain reaction problem because you start moving 6th - 7th graders all around and according to NKMSAA rules players can only play one game a night and it must be up not down.

 

4. MS programs in Kenton have traditionally thinned themselves out from the sixth grade season to the eighth grade season. Start with 14-15 and end three years later with 8-10.

 

5. It is obvious that the lack of play between Kenton and Boone MS girls has hurt Kenton over the last few years. Kenton pushed around a lot of smaller schools during that period and neither the coaches nor players were really prepared for the readmission of Boone. You coach and play to a different level based on the competition.

 

(MPO) If HS coaches became more involved in the whole development, process rather than cherry picking players all HS programs would benefit.

 

Not sure how this relates to the question at hand!! Which is ...what is going on with Dixie basketball?

I have to agree with Colonel75 that Elkus was not handed a mess. The past year and half the program has taken quite a turn for the worst. The frustration level of players and parents has escalated to an almost unbearable level at this point. How sad to see players who once loved the game feel such frustration ,that in their minds ..the only thing to do is quit. Do I agree with allowing our kids to quit when things don't go their ways? Absolutely not. But I do know it must feel very lonely for a player who has played since they were 5 to get to the high school varsity level and realize that this is what they get!!! And no one seems to care. The "powers that be" know what the problem is at Dixie...they choose to look the other way. After all...it's only girls basketball!!

Not sure how this relates to the question at hand!! Which is ...what is going on with Dixie basketball?

I have to agree with Colonel75 that Elkus was not handed a mess. The past year and half the program has taken quite a turn for the worst. The frustration level of players and parents has escalated to an almost unbearable level at this point. How sad to see players who once loved the game feel such frustration ,that in their minds ..the only thing to do is quit. Do I agree with allowing our kids to quit when things don't go their ways? Absolutely not. But I do know it must feel very lonely for a player who has played since they were 5 to get to the high school varsity level and realize that this is what they get!!! And no one seems to care. The "powers that be" know what the problem is at Dixie...they choose to look the other way. After all...it's only girls basketball!!

 

I hear the sarcastic tone in your voice and have heard it in the stands as well. It stands to see what actions Dixie Athletics will take as a response to the turmoil.

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