Mr. Freeze

Rams by as many as coach Hoof wants.

Exactly what I was thinking! Awesome!

You want to talk about penalties not being called, Robbie Logan would have had a lot more sacks on the quarterback if penalties would have been called. Don't blame the officals because your OL couldn't keep Logan and company out of the backfield. I won't say penalties wasn't missed both ways, but if you want to talk about them, you need to watch the film very closely.:mad:

Yes sir. They were overpowering. The GC o-line was holding all night. The refs let it go in the second half because they were up by so much (that's actually words told to players when they complained about it). I don't have a problem with letting some of that stuff go when a game is out of reach, but...............Some of the Raceland boys told me it was the dirtiest game they every played in. Many of them have cleat marks up their arms and calves from the pile ups.

As I said the Raceland OL/DL was the difference in this game. I called them out and they rose to the occasion. The OL/DL were dominate. Robbie Logan had three sacks I believe, all in the first half. And most of Greenup County's rushing yardage was do to Raceland DL over penetrating and over pursuing. They were in the backfield all night. The OL/DL made a bid difference in this game.

 

Hats off to Robbie Logan, Cody Grand, Cody Chinn, Kory Baldridge, Rocky Jobe, and Sabastian Johannson, the Raceland OL/DL. They did a great job, and to be successful in this game, you have to have a great line.

Great post Ram! The line was dominant tonight. They've been great this year. They did a great job at LCA last week stopping Hayden and holding him to less than 50 rushing yards (he had 295 yards in tonight's loss to Corbin). They are big and strong and have great linebackers playing behind them. Carver laid the smack on Greenup's QB tonight in the first half. Yowsers! They have a hard-hitting defense and it all starts on the line!

This study does not consider other variables. One variable in Duke or any good team's favor is they win a lot and get fouled a lot at the end of the games. Another variable is taht Duke plays very tight man to man defense and there is a lot of contact between the defender guarding the guy with the ball. On the other hand with a team like Syracuse they play zone and aren't near as aggressive. There are definitly different ways of looking at it.

Good post. This is so true. You can't just take numbers and compare them to teams that run different defenses and offenses.

Russell-Flatwoods over Grayson 31-0. Scored 25 in first inning.

http://www.dailyindependent.com/localsports/local_story_187230344.html

Ricky Clelland from Buckeye North High School in eastern Ohio. He was drafted in the 5th round by the Expos in the late 80's. He threw in the 95-98 MPH range in high school and often had control problems. Talk about scary! A guy throwing that fast and being all over the place with his pitches!

I understand that Horne was interested in coaching there in the past, but he and Dodd did not see eye to eye. He then took a position in Greenup County.

Under Ronnie Back, Administrators were not allowed to coach. Rules must have changed...

Interesting that Horne recently pink slipped one of his non tenured middle school teachers who was a paid assistant of Dodd's. The reason given was "lack of funds".

If there were no funds, why is the same teaching position now posted?

Doesn't quite pass the smell test...:sssh:

 

I do wish the best to Coach Kidwell. He is a class act.

Just to clear something up... non-tenured teachers are always pink-slipped. A matter of fact, I got mine today. It is just procedure.

Its a little early to be naming the best in the region.

No it's not. She is the best.

Having been both an assistant women's coach from a major conference and played high school ball, the boys' state champs would beat NCAA women's national champs. The level of athleticism isn't even close, not to mention strength. The women would be pushed around way too much. On a side note, they could shoot at a higher level, just wouldn't get many open looks.

Oh, definitely. It wouldn't even be close. The women would have trouble getting off shots over the boys and getting to the basket on drives. Boys would win by at least 30-40.

I truly think that a LARGE majority of High school boys teams would beat TENN or UCONN women. And when I say LARGE, I mean like 85-90%. They may have some tall girls, but they would still have trouble getting a shot off over much-more athletic boys. And, BTW, Candace Parker could not dunk over a boy. She can't even dunk over a woman. She only dunks when she is wide open and can stutter-step to get her timing correct. Boys are just too fast, too strong, too athletic, too physical.

Now, having that said, the LARGE majority of college women's teams would destroy most boys high school teams in shooting contests, though!

Thad Matta might be a great recruiter but................

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Elliot wins by AT LEAST 1 point.

To answer one of your posts on another thread earlier Mr. Freeze. Coach Hicks never cussed anyone, it wasn't allowed by coaches or players. See some people have class. Then you have those that want to have class but they keep losing the CL.

The problems at Greenup County start at the very top. Untill the West end "Good ol boys" are all gone it will always be just like it is now, a mess. Who pays the price? The kids!

Well, that may have been the policy with the boys at practice, but if you read my post, everyone in the section behind Greenup's bench at Russell heard it and saw the fit he threw in front of his boys.

Was the player allowed back on the team?

Of Course! It's a Joke down there! All this "chatter" said by another poster IS a HUGE deal. Please don't listen to the downplaying of the parents role in all of this.

 

 

Fact: Coach Hicks, Coach Sammons, and Coach Logan DO NOT use inappropriate language to the boys. Again, FACT

 

I do not know or have not witnessed Coach Sammons or Coach Logan's coaching so I wouldn't know. As for Coach Hicks: He wasn't shy about using AWFUL language at games in front of the boys and fans, so I can imagine what he did behind closed doors. I remember a games at Russell where he flung a chair at the bleachers and almost hit a girl in the first row then used some choice language to the schools lawyer, JL, after being told to settle down. And that's just one game that I happened to see. I'm not condoning Leach's language, if that even happened to begin with, but anyone is crazy if they think this doesn't happen at almost every school. Like said before, kids hear and USE this language themselves at practices and in their everyday life. I think they can handle it.

I wouldn't. For those who quit, they made their choice. They didn't quit on the coach, they quit on their teammates. If they did it once they'll do it again. Cut your losses and move on.

Great post 85! That would send a horrible message to the kids and not teach them anything to let them back on the team.

How does the word resign sound to you? What does that mean? That means that he is giving up the position as coach. Greenup has had 3 players quit 2 others to get kicked off another attempted to be kicked off coach QUITS. What a season. Cant get much worse, only better

There is a thing called "forced resignation" where an employee is forced either formally or behind the scenes. Like 85Lived said, Greenup sides with parents and kids and doesn't support their staff. They have it backwards from every other school.

 

Maybe they should just drop the program for a year and regroup. Not a bad idea.

 

That is a horrible idea, ask soon to be seniors and the seniors now what they would think about that.

 

I'm sorry. That was complete sarcasm. Didn't mean for it to sound serious. My bad.

Maybe a coach with Greenup roots and played for the program would be a good choice at some point and time.

There are at least three right in the 16th Region right now.

AHH YES! The "good 'ol boy" system. Gotta love Eastern KY.

Who said that the players did not like the coach never heard word of that. The coach would do his job if he wouldnt have QUIT!

Choose your words wisely. QUIT? I doubt it. He's not going to quit over a few loses. If everyone was supportive of him like you say, I doubt he would just quit. Run off or asked to leave sounds more of a likely reason. Unless he has been offered a better position. If that is the case, then I would advise him to "get the heck out of there."

Let's not try to make the players sound like victims just because they don't like the coach or his style of play. How about, hey parents just let the coaches do their job. That's all they want.

Thank you. A reasonable person. They are losing games. That's what all of this boils down to and the parents are embarassed. He's been given half a season to completely change a system and get kids accustomed to it, and he gets run off. They want an anarchy. If they think they are better coaches, then they can apply for the new opening.

Just let the kids play basketball thats all they want.

I keep hearing this phrase "They just want to play." They were just playing until the Coach was questioned and a big "incident" transpired. Coach's decision is final. Move on without the player and let the other kids play.

Just let the kids play basketball thats all they want.

I agree, but you can't let kids disrespect their coach just so they can play. They aren't at school to play basketball. It's an extracurricular activity. They don't have a right to play. If a kid doesn't follow the rules or is a problem, they don't deserve and should not be allowed to be on the team.

If history repeats itself Leach will just go to another weaker 16th Region opponent and then beat Greenup everytime they play them, sounds like too much micro managment at Greenup. Although if I was the AD/Principal and had to watch that Offensive/Defensive Philosophy that was being implemented I might have to force the coach out as well!

I'm guessing you think Coach Gillispie should be run off too. It takes TIME to teach a new system. There is no patience with people in this state. What's the deal? Coach Leach will go on to bigger things than the 16th region, hopefully. His talents would be wasted here.

First off, Coach Leach is not going to kick someone off for "no good reason" because he is all class.

 

Do you call cussing a player out class?

 

No. IF he did that, then he was wrong. I'm sure old Hicks or any other coach in the area have never done anything like that;)

But that doesn't excuse it. But I'm sure you've said things out of frustration in the heat of a moment.

 

I don't mean to get riled up about this, but I am tired of parents and kids dictating the way professionals do their job. Coach Leach knows more about b-ball than 99% of people in the whole area. He was respected enough to be voted the chairman of the whole Men's Basketball board of the NCCAA while at KCU. He comes to a low-profile basketball program, probably expects to be given respect because of his resume and a fair shot to show his abilities, and he instead gets crapped on by everyone. It's not his fault no matter what you say. The problem is the people in the district, fans and administrators. This goes back further than one incident. In the eyes of a large majority of people Coach Leach, I'm sure of it, has done nothing wrong. Only at GCHS would this be allowed to escalate to this. This does NOT happen at even a small minority of schools. Coaches are respected and given the benefit of the doubt because they should. They have been hired to do a job. Just because it's not the way you and others would do it, doesn't give them the right to run him, and other coaches, off.