cch5432

Games is getting out of control. Tempo is insane.

I'd like you to review the senior leadership shown on the floor last night because I did not see any. The only leader between JV and Varsity that I saw was Brett Riedinger. He's the General out there and the best shooter in the program. I'd give him a shot to play. In your previous post you mentioned major problems breaking the press, but a much bigger problem is this team has major problems with lack of respect for their coaches. This dates back starting in 2006 and the class of 2007 was one of the worst. A scene on the team bus after a St. Henry loss comes to mind. The disrespect happens over and over and the coaches have to address it. As long as this team talks back to coach, refuses to acknowledge the coaches coming out of the game, walking to and from the court for time outs it's going to lose most of the time. I thought this team was going to be different. I was wrong. I have never in my 31 years watching high school basketball seen a coach treated so disrespectively and they do it to a guy that tries so hard to be liked by his players.

Perhaps "senior leadership" was the wrong term. All I meant to illustrate is that this team isn't young, although, as noted, they aren't experienced at the varsity level. PM me about the "scene on the bus."

But other than Wellbrock who has any real Varsity experience? There might be a lot of senior on this team but they don't have much Varsity experience on the floor!

True...which leads to another gripe of mine with Coach L's- an unwillingness to cut people beyond their sophomore year. In the last 4 years, here are how many seniors have been around:

Class of 2006: 6

Class of 2007: 4 (but a player quit and a player transferred after junior season)

Class of 2008: 5

Class of 2009: 6

Class of 2010: 7

Class of 2011 (current juniors): 8

So, we have all these kids who have put a ton of time to the program, but haven't done much on the varsity level. It takes time to adjust to the Varsity level, and CovCath has benefited when players start early at Varsity- top players in recent years such as Nestheide, B. Votel, Tierney, Jacobs, Bovard, Maile were 2-year starters (and all played Varsity their sophomore years).

Ironically, the senior-heavy rosters, I think, is a result of the success of the 2004 team with 6 seniors, but that class was unique in talent and depth. But that team was also experienced, and in order to do that, you have to cut some fairly talented kids, so the best ones can excel. It sucks, but it is for the best of the program.

^ Wow cch5432. Nice summary. Sounds like CovCath has a lot to work on.

Absolutely. This team is deep, talented, and has plenty of senior leadership. A high ceiling, but plenty of work to do.

Coach L was indeed furious at him for not coming out and anyone who has followed CovCath basketball for the last two years can understand why!

 

I truly don't know if Trevor didn't understood what was going on at the time or just felt that he wasn't going to take himself out of the game?

I can't blame Trevor for not wanting to come out- if you come out, you never know when you are going back in. After following CCH for 7 years, I still can't figure out Coach L's substitution patterns. Austin Hudepohl did not play the entire 2nd Half. Why? Who knows. Clearly, CovCath was having trouble breaking the press, but Coach L didn't give any one (specifically, any non-senior) the chance to break it.

As noted, this team has major, major issues breaking the press. Furthermore, Thelen was killing them down low, and his touches decreased significantly in the 2nd half. The Colonels have only 2 plays designated for big guys- the same 2 plays they had in 2005-2007- and they are extremely predictable. After Thelen killed them in the 1st quarter, they merely upped the pressure on the guards (specifically on the wing) and the Colonels could hardly get a shot off.

And before someone tells me, "How could Thelen not have had enough touches, he scored 20+?"- he probably only had 8 or 9 posts in the low post, and at least 6 of those came in the first quarter.

I love Coach L- but last night, it was clear that CCH was outcoached. St. X made adjustments, didn't turn the ball over as much (although I don't have the stats), set the tempo, and made their free throws. CovCath didn't do any of those things.

Any results of the Frosh/JV game?

JV won by around 8. Great game out of Riedinger.

St. X comes back after ending the 1st quarter down 20-5.

Is St. X any good this year?

Quincy Carter of the Cowboys.

Very good

Extremely creepy.

At the age of 26, this former University of Georgia and NFL QB threw for over 3,000 yards and led his team to a 10-6 record and a playoff spot in 2003, but was out of the league less than 2 years later. Who is he?

:ohbrother::clap:

 

You have not shown me where I am wrong. The debate has nothing to do if I am wrong about what Liggins did. You have yet to prove anything. I am not saying that Liggins was not suspended for drugs. All I am saying there is no one at this time on this board that really knows the reason for sure and maybe will never know. The whole argument is someone cannot say someone is falsify a story unless they can prove it themselves. What is it that you don't understand about that.

If you are saying that no one on this board really knows the reason, then why are you defending someone's right to claim something that they don't know? Are we all entitled to make false claims, but no one can reject the false claims of another? If LRCW says that DeAndre Liggins is the President of Tulavu, can I say that is not true? Or must I know that the President of Tulavu is Ian Fry before I can disclaim LRCW's false statement?

I don't recall anything about me saying that refs were trying to cover the spreads and affect the outcome in that way.

What we have here is a failure to miscommunicate...that is what "fixed" means. It's also what Tim Donaghy apparently claims.

Jodie's school, right?

The web site I looked at to shoot down the one or two friends I had that started to believe doesn't give any answer about the boxes let alone a good explanation.

SSC- while I don't necessarily agree with what you are saying, kudos to you to keeping an open mind to something you were initially opposed to. Rate sight on this site. (pun intended)

 

You say the same thing about Canseco?

I would have. And I would have been wrong, in that case. That doesn't mean that Donaghy's telling the truth. Until I see dozens agreeing with Canseco's claim, I'll resist the urge to be the first to call out the conspiracy theory.

Influenced is basically a smaller and lighter word for fixed.

 

If it's not called fair then it's fixed.

Every sport with a ref is influenced by the referee, we'll agree there. I notice it when I play- if I am significantly bigger than the guy guarding me, I generally get away with a lot less than if my opponent is significantly bigger than me. I guess I just don't see the integrity of the entire league being compromised.

And what about the things Tim Donaghy said? Do we refuse to believe his word that he was a cheater, because he was a cheater? :lol:

To be fair, I haven't read a single word that Tim Donaghy said, but would be happy to (if you sent me a link). However, I assume that he gets more publicity (if not money) based on how outrageous his claims are, so I will take it with a grain of salt.

Then why do gas prices mostly move in conjunction with the speculation market? Those prices are completely irrespective of the actual supply (the lack of which creates demand). That tank got filled up by the distributor at a fixed price -- the distributor's price didn't retroactively go up 20 cents on the gallon three days later -- so that price should remain the same until the tank is depleted, or unless there is legitimate evidence of a real shortage.

I'm not sure if I have time right now to comment on speculation in commodity markets, but I will comment on the faulty logic behind the bolded for now: prices are based on both historical costs AND estimated future costs.

:thumb:

 

(It's nice to have you back)

2 more finals, and hopefully I'll be around more. On the other hand, Audit and Tax are so unbearably boring that I'm turning to the "New Posts" button as a refuge from studying for the last 2 finals.

I think that the existence of referees is causing some of us to confuse the meaning of "fixed" versus "human." Human beings are inherently biased- each one of us in this thread has our own point of view that we are trying to promote. However, that doesn't mean that this conversation has been "fixed" by some conspiracy from theguru and the moderators.

If you want to argue that the refs are overly biased towards superstars, that's another conversation. But I don't see any evidence that the NBA is fixed.

So many educated people...yet such a misunderstanding of basic economics.

Do you all really think that all prices are set by Speedway?

Prices are set by supply and demand. Demand is inelastic relative to supply, so we are subject to short-term price fluctuations. Speedway responds to the price fluctuations more quickly than anyone- raising prices slightly earlier, AND lowering prices slightly earlier. They aren't setting prices.

Colonel Crazy is right- what is the reason that Speedway can respond (raise prices) more quickly? It is because they have a loyal customer base. Why do they have a loyal customer base? Because they have programs that reward repeat purchasers. If this weren't the case, then when Speedway raised prices, other gas companies would keep their prices low and flourish- but Speedway has rewards for using Speedway.

How has Speedway become the market leader? Speedway obtained their market leader position by treating their customers well. What the heck has any other NKY gas station done for you, besides blindly follow Speedway, except without consumer rewards?

In any case, Speedway doesn't SET prices, they just respond more quickly to fluctuations (up or down). That's just being effective, not any more selfish than the other gas companies. Also, keep in mind that Speedway lowers their prices before anyone else does.

FWIW, I never go to Speedway (except when I'm in Lexington). I generally use Thornton's or Sunoco in NKY.

1. This is all a moot point- an O-Line that can pass block fixes all. However, we are all overreacting because of timing- no one can stop the Viking's pass rush.

2. IMO, Tebow will be successful in the NFL, and at QB. But I'll take Carson now and for at least the next 3 years.

I've got a wacky one for you guys. I think I've explained it before, but a quick rundown on the quirks of my league's scoring:

 

-Touchdown points are based on distance. A short one of 1-9 yards = 5 points. 10-19 = 6, 20-29 = 8, 30-39 = 10, 40-49 = 12, 50+ = 15. So the longer the better.

 

-We receive double points on TDs scored out of position. So a QB that rushes for a 9 yard TD gets 10 points. An RB that catches a 50+ TD (looking at you Brandon Jacobs) gets 30.

 

-Yardage is standard, 10 yards, 1 point. Bonus of 5 points at 100 yards for rushing and receiving, another 5 at 150, and another 10 at 200.

 

The major thing I'm looking at this week is the double point area. Joshua Cribbs is reportedly being looked at as an every down back, and looking at much more in the rushing area. He killed Pittsburgh last week with 8 rushes for 80+ yards. He didn't get any TDs, but heck, he outproduced Steve Smith in my WR corps. And therein lies the intrigue as Josh Cribbs is a WR that rushes. If Cribbs is essentially an RB, he's getting more guaranteed touches. If he actually broke one to get in the end zone, no matter where it was from, his value skyrockets for me. I'm considering picking him up and plugging him in place of Steve Smith.

 

It's extremely high risk, but it's one of those things that I'm thinking of in a "no guts, no glory" kind of way. My team is always consistent, rarely explosive. I'm 4th in the league in points, 2 points back of 3rd, 16 points back of 2nd. The guy in 1st is way clear of everyone and has Chris Johnson, so no one is catching him. The guy in 3rd has really come on of late, and in fact passed me just last week. I'm afraid I'm going to be chasing his taillights. Points is what is most important in our league, where the big money is at. So I can basically continue playing it "safe" with my consistent team that has only failed to get 100+ in four out of the 14 weeks (and only two of the last 12), or I can go for the big play and possibly fall flat on my face or surge past my opposition. Whatcha got?

I think Cribbs is a good risk to take (from what you've told us)...but in all seriousness, I am very, very willing to bench my studs, and sitting Steve Smith would be against your own advice to me.