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  1. Am I correct that the ruling is not for public records?

    This is an interesting question, and I didn't see any reply to it yet. I don't think any of the rulings is private, except possibly the hearing officer's full report and recommendations. The KHSAA publishes (or at least used to) their rulings (omitting the player's names, I think the school is named) in the magazine they send to all officials and members, and the Board of Control ruling does note the hearing officer's recommendation. I'm not an official this year so I don't have the issue with the past (someone said August?) decision. I couldn't find the publication on the KHSAA website, though it may be there and the decision should also be in the BOC minutes.

     

    Once it is in court all actions by the court are generally public, including today's ruling (there are exceptional circumstances where pleadings or entire files can be sealed, but I don't think any could apply here--a Floyd county judge sealed one of these cases a year or 2 ago and got a lot of flack). I am still not clear on whether a 3 judge panel ruled today or just one judge (in which case there might be a ruling by 3 judges by Friday that could change all of this). I can't find the ruling (or any ruling of today's date) on the Court of Appeals web page, which has a searchable database of all their opinions (but may take a few days to enter). Does anyone on this thread actually have today's ruling, and if so can you scan or quote it? (Obviously, don't do that if it's sealed but you managed to get a copy). Then we'd know if it was one judge or 3, procedural or substantive...and of course that will only lead to the next round of our questions, until the next possible ruling.

  2. Thus, legally, the KHSAA ruling of ineligibility was valid and any games Mitchell participated in are to be forfeited.

     

    Except those in state championship competition. So, 3 wishes, the champion will finish with 4 wins (the playoff ones only) or with all (if it's Boyle).

     

    Sec. 1) Use of an Ineligible Player

    When a student is declared ineligible, all contests in

    which he/she has played while ineligible shall be forfeited

    to the opposing team except that this may not apply to

    state championship competition.

  3. Guru. The way I read the rules you posted. It states that all games will be forfeited except the state game. Doesn't that in a since say it is ok to do wrong to make it there then something will be done about it. Did that make sence.

     

    Sydsam, I think the rule says it won't apply in state championship competition, meaning all the playoff games, not THE state championship game. Someone said 3 pages ago KHSAA wouldn't cancel a state championship game and lose the gate. This makes no sense as a rule, but is their board's way of saying in advance they won't cancel a championship game. Coincidentally, they won't lose the gate. From the point of view of guidance to a coach or team making a decision, the message is make sure your injunction sticks through the regular season. If it does, you're in the playoffs and won't be sent home. If it's dissolved in the last week of the season you forfeited all your wins (that the player took part in) and can't go to the playoffs. No lawyer can predict the Court of Appeals docket and timeframes well enough to play this game. Certainly, no one wins under this ruling (for the reasons others have posted).

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