MDN

Originally posted by Birdsfan

Oh great.....gang up!

A gang of females.......

they must be on their way to the bathroom.

Originally posted by nWo

What kind of reaction are you speaking of?

The ire some people have voiced about losing their....... um...... poetic liscense.

I bet the Mods didn't expect this kind of reaction.

And I wonder how many times the posts in this thread we re-read for mistakes before the "Submit" button whas clicked?

Originally posted by Watusi

All very valid points, MDN. I, for one, will have to give them some consideration and you have made me examine my thoughts about the AP voters. Even though your points are contrary to the way the discussion was heading, thank you for presented them in an organized and civil manner.

 

I don't think anyone has said ALL AP voters are the problem. But history has shown me that some problem exist in the process.

 

I like our system better, but it is not a perfect system. Everyone involved is human and humans make mistakes. I'm sure we will realize in a few weeks that we have overlooked some teams and touted some that we should have overlooked. But I don't think it will take us long to recognize it and even less time to correct it. As with any work in progress, we have to evolve with it.

 

The best part of it is, we can rely on all the fans on here to let us know when we are missing the boat.

I gotta say, on the whole, I agree with you.

I think all-state time is when the AP really looks bad with some place really loading up on the honorable mentions and people like Marty Reagan getting left off (which I beleive happened when he was a junior).

And most of my family would agree with you saying that my point is contrary to whatever. My dad's been describing me as contrary for years.

One thing I don't understand about several of these posts is why everyone thinks the AP voters are so much less informed that our BGP voters.

The AP people follow sports for a profession, Most BGP voters have a day job and commit what free time they do have to sports.

The BGP voters reside somewhere I suspect and would also suspect that they have more knowledge of local teams than those from across the state.

Our BGP voters often have a favorite team, many times that they follow fanatically. I'm not sure AP voters have such a rooting interest in any one team.

And how much do the BGP voters travel that they know so much more about football state wide than the AP guys do?

The advantage the BGP poll has over the AP is more members and anytime you have more samples, the accuracy of any scienticif sampling will be greater.

Originally posted by theguru

Here is how the Guru Guess Who will work. I am in the below picture, you have to tell everyone which one is me and why you think it is me (or you can tell why the other four are not me). The funniest response will win a free hat or visor. You can beat up on me (and my buddies in the picture) all you want I just ask that you keep it decent.:banana:

 

If you have met me or know who I am I just ask that you don't give it away or guess. You can make a funny comment if you like just don't give it away to everyone else.

 

Have at it!

 

Little did Guru and the Cheese Graters know that their first gig as a headlining band would also be their last.

The above photo, taken just before the 1986 Beechwood homecoming football game. G and the CGs were to play the national anthem before hte game and the annual sock hop that followed.

Their mistake was wearing old practice uniforms for their stage costumes.

"Uniforms worked for the village people," the Guru said the next day. "We were all set for our big day. We had all just gotten new hair cuts and learned our fourth and final cord.

"This picture was the lineup as we were going to be on stage. Tito (57) was on synthesizer, Slick Stewart Jones (10) was playing accordian, Wild Will Westenhopper (66) was on drums and Little Davey (4) played guitar. And me, well, I was in the middle. Where the lead singer belongs."

The trouble began when when the Beechwood coaches mistook Guru and Cheese Graters for actual players as the game kicked off.

"I don't know how they could make such a mistake," Slick Stewart said from a stretcher after the game, "I mean LOOK at us."

By the time the dust had cleared every member of the bad except the Guru has too badly injured to play.

Since the Guru didn't know hot to play any of the musical instruments, he decided to give up the band and devote his efforts full time to football.

He became a kicker.

The end

Originally posted by Oxnard

Considering the large number of eligible media sources statewide, it is a total embarassment that ONLY 17 cast their ballots. I DO NOT fault the WKY or EKY contingent for dutifully casting their ballots, which often include the teams with which they are most familar. But your presentation here, westsider, does answer a lot of questions I had about the overall validity of these AP Polls. Shame on the NKY and Louisville media who DO NOT participate.

 

 

 

 

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Ox, I think your post on the AP polls is one of the best I've seen.

Instead of blasting the voters who do take the time to vote every week, you place the blame for underrepresented areas on those who chose not to vote.

I think it's a very valid point.

Is the AP poll correct every week? No.

Is any poll correct every week? I'd say no on that one as well.

The handicap of the AP is not enough voters for a true sampleing of the state. But I would say it's pretty much as good as any other.

An interesting trim from Kingdom Come is to take Little Shepherd's trail all the way out to Whitesburg.

It's gravel all the way and was pretty passable three or four years ago.

you can actually start on top of Pine Mountain in Harlan and go all the way to Whitesburg.

Pack a lunch.

I usually take a couple of pictures of the falls and head for the rocks downstream.

One of the most fun days I've ever spent was in college with a couple of friends of mine scrambleing around the bolders below Cumberland falls. We must have hiked 3 miles downstreak going from rock to rock. This was before I had ever heard of "Boldering"

Originally posted by 3wishes

MDN,

 

The few times I have fished at the Falls, I would lower myself to the bottom of the falls...

For some reason I picture you dangleing off the edge of Cumberland falls by a rope with a fishing pole clenched in one hand.

Originally posted by formerkywrestler

I haven't got to flyfish it yet. But i have fished it several times, and yes the trout fishing is splendid, without a doubt the best in the state.

How you do get access. Do you boat in or what?

I would love to get there this spring/summer.

That's what I was thinking.

What tree leaves a black sticky deposit on squirrels after they eat from that tree.

Gander??

I've heard the trout fishing downstream from the Cumberland falls is great.

Most of the river is limited access from what I understand and you have to boat in.

I really want to do some fly fishing there this year.

Ummmm. No

Besides, Bush is Mr. Football and will be wearing the No. 1. I think it's pretty much a law he has to start.

Wonder what he would say if the coach tried to put him at receiver or DB?

I have something new on my wish list.

Taurus makes a .17 HMR revolver called the Tracker.

It's beeeyoootiful.

It's a seven-shot revolver made on the .45 ACP Tracker frame.

It has a 6 1/2 inch vented rib barrel. A scope mountin plate is available.

According to the article, sighted in at 125 yards, the bullet is 1.43 inches high at 75 yards and 2 inches low at 150 yards.

The impressive thing was 5/8 inch grouping at 25 yards and 1 1/8 inch group at 100 yards.

I want one. I want one. I want one. I want one. I want one.

LIke I said, I was assuming.

Usually there is also a lot of pressure for UK signees to be first team all-state and all of those guys (the seniors) should be on the team.

I would be interested to know the last time a UK signee didn't get asked to play on the team.

I'm sure some may have opted not to.

I talked to Dallas Greer today and he said the Bell County coaches AND Rich Brooks had told him he would be playing in the all-star game.

That leads me to assume (dangerou always, but what the heck) that all UK signees will be on the team.

I'm also glad that the UK coaches are allowing their kids to play in the game.

P.S. Greer will the fifth kid from Bell County/Middlesboro to play in the game since 1998

I don't think having the fans sit together would be a problem at this game.

It's a pretty warm and fuzzy environment.

Plus I don't think it would draw enough to exactly have to sit in each other's laps in there.

It might be fun with a nearly full stadium ever if it was a smaller one.

I remember in Knoxville in 98 how depressing Neyland looked with so few people in it.

What I'm drooling over right now is the Ruger Vacuero with the bird's head grip.

These are beautiful guns.

I'm currently sinking pretty much all my "extra" money into my new automotive hobby, but I really want one of these.

has anyone else seen or shot one?

I had a friend carry the Smith .40 as his service weapon.

It was a NICE gun.

I have a Ruger Mk II competition model that I love for plinking.

It's wonderfully accurate at distances that make pistol shooting extremely challenging.

It's also cheap to buy ammo for, making it my favorite plinking gun.

Originally posted by ram95

What things were the most fun for you as a kid at summer camp and what did you like the least?

I remember when we all canoed over to the girls camp across the lake and snuck up behind the shower house. That was the first time I.....

Maybe I watch too much TV

Seriously

When I was in HS I went for a weekend stay at Camp Nathaniel in Knott County. The first night after supper everyone played capture the flag.

The whole camp had to wait while the kids from Harlan County went back to the bunks and changed clothers.

They all came back with camo on and some with full face paint. It was great.