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Wiley-KY
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I love how some on here always try to take over a thread. This thread is about Miss Kentucky candidates. Last I checked your player didn’t make it. Give it a rest and let’s talk about these 16 candidates And please stop bashing young ladies just because your player didn’t make the list. Most coaches in the 10th reason are very happy this is her last year.
On that note I believe Wheeler will win the award.
I’ve seen you post before for Harrison County. Quit pretending! Hayley was called out on this thread! So I’ve only responded to those that question her! Sorry that the facts I’ve presented now have you wanting to change the conversation back. If I recall I won the last post war we had on another thread regarding meaningless stats against weak competition.
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I don’t put a ton of stock in Cats Pause high school previews. Have seen multiple times they list top players from teams of kids that graduated or aren’t even playing that season. And also didn’t Kellione make 1st team 10th region and Harrison 3rd team last year 2017-18 season? Why the expectation that Harrison was going to jump a 1st team selection from the previous season? I think it’s hard to argue the selection of Kellione as the 10ths top player this season in my opinion. She has had a very good season.
Again, Politics! Hayley Harrison led GRC in scoring, steals and blocks last year which was a Final 4 team and she was only selected 3rd team all Region. That makes zero sense! Yet she made the 10th Region All Tournament Team and She was also the only Junior from the 10th Region last year to be selected to the Kentucky Junior All Star Team over the summer which is selected by coaches all over the state.
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Kind of makes sense. Why would Harrison be a candidate or win Mrs Basketball if she isn’t even the top player in her own region?
There is no reason other than Politics that Madison Kellione (Harrison Co) was awarded 10th Regions Miss Basketball Candidate. You ask “Why would Hayley Harrison (GRC) be a candidate”, such a questions blows my mind to begin with, but here are a few reasons why.
Hayley Harrison (GRC)
- Signed to Play for UT-Martin (D1). One of the top programs in the OVC
- Been a major part of her team going to the Sweet 16 the past two years.
- Only Senior in the 10 Region to be selected to play over the summer on the Kentucky Junior All Star Team. Probably why Cats Pause had her as a Miss Basketball Candidate
- GRC is ranked Top 10 in the State and 1st in the 10th – Does this not reflect the type of players on GRC’s team?
- Hayley Leads her team in Scoring and Rebounds which has two other D1 commit/signee (Igo and Bell) as well as an NAIA signee (Flowers)
- Strength of schedule (This should be the most import data point). GRC has played against 13 Top Teams In and Out of State.
- 10 Top 25 teams in the state.
- 1 Top 25 National team (Hamilton Heights Christian Academy)
- 2 teams (Northwestern, IN and Oak Ridge, TN) ranked amongst the Top 10 in their respected States.
- That’s 13 Top Teams! Did I say that already!
[*]Record 5-8 vs these Top Teams – That’s with starters being out due to injuries!
[*]Lead her team to the Louisville Invitation Tournament (LIT) Championship game where she led her team in scoring for the weekend.
[*]Selected to the All LIT Tournament Team as well as the Andrew Johnson Bank Ladies Classic All Tournament Team
[*]Against the 13 Top teams Hayley average is 17.4ppg
- 10 Top 25 teams in the state.
Madison Kellione (Harrison Co)
- Committed/Signed to Play where?
- How far have they made it in the region?
- Harrison County is nowhere near being ranked in the Top 25 – This should speak volume of how bad their schedule is to be 21-6 and not be close to being ranked.
- Got Beat by Paris and Bishop Brossart
- Have only played two Top 25 teams (Mercer and Scott) and lost both.
- Schedule if full of bottom teams from the 10th and other surrounding regions
- She takes anywhere between 20 and 30 shots per game.
Media and Coaches should not just look at the stats and record from the surface but at who the stats/record are against. Sorry, but neither Coaches nor players should be rewarded for playing soft schedules. I said this before… Harrison Co had a great record last year and returned most if not all their players but yet scheduled weak competition again this season. One can only think to pad their record and stats. Looks like it worked…the 10th region should be ashamed!
- Signed to Play for UT-Martin (D1). One of the top programs in the OVC
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I don’t understand how GRC gets 3 all tournament and they were the runner up and Ryle only got 2 all tournament as the champion. Can anyone explain?
I would assume it’s based off performance throughout the tournament. The committee picks who they thought made an impact during the event. Lincoln got two while the other Final 4 team only got 1. It’s not the format where the 1st place team automatically gets 4 players, 2nd team get 3, etc.
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7. Montgomery County (11-11, 3-6 region, 2-3 40th District). The Indians slip a spot to number 7, dropping 2 of 3 last week. First was the 7-point loss at home to Robertson County; followed by the mild upset of Bourbon County at home. Finally, the 12-point defeat at the hands of Clark County. Pharoah Davis and Myron Ralls had 22 and 21 against Robertson, with Davis gathering 10 boards. Hagan Harrison came out of nowhere with a surprising 22 points (3-3 from behind the arc) in the 56-48 win over Bourbon (he averages 6 per game). A four-game slate this week - Mason County, Augusta, Paris and Fleming County.
Hagan Harrison performance against Bourbon shouldn’t been any surprise to Bourbon. He scored 16 points against them in their first meeting at Bourbon. Harrison is just a freshman.
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Not true you said the win meant nothing!! We play Scott tomorrow and we will see where we truly stand against the best team in the 10th Region.
Nope, go back and read...I said the Campbell Win was a good win. I just disagreed with the comment regarding how good Harrison County’s record is and that being an indication of How good they are this season.
I also said respect is earned and you have your chance tomorrow to do just that. Good luck tomorrow.
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I could care less who wins the award. I will not lose any sleep either way. But all those stats do not matter either. It’s all politics.
As far as playing the best to be the best. Makes absolutely no sense. You have to beat the best to be the best!!! Me playing as a young baseball player against Derek Jeter in Little League does in no way shape or form make me the best baseball player.
And again I see one player on that still on the same team they started on.
You have to keep the conversation in context it was intended which is Region POY. So when looking at stats and who’s the best You have to look at who’s played against the best. Some of these girls have shown they can still put up great numbers against really good teams and not just against bottom teams.
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Here are some great stats and why you can’t just go by stats without also looking at who they played. These are for arguably the best five players in the 10 Region. It is very clear from this which players are playing Top Competition and this is just to this point. GRC is playing in the LIT and still has Male on their schedule. Scott still has Sacred Heart left to play. Again to be considered one of the best you have to play against the other best in the State.
Mya Meredeth
Top 25 Nationally Played: 0
Top 5 Ky Played: 2
Top 10 Ky Played:3
Top 25 Ky/Nationally Played: 9
Average Against Top Teams: 22ppg
Hayley Harrison
Top 25 Nationally Played: 1
Top 5 Ky Played: 1
Top 10 Ky Played: 3
Top 25 Ky/Nationally Played: 9
Average Against Top Teams: 17ppg
Kennedy Igo
Top 25 Nationally Played: 1
Top 5 Ky Played:1
Top 10 Ky Played:3
Top 25 Ky/Nationally Played: 7
Average Against Top Teams: 16ppg
Summer Secrist
Top 25 Nationally Played: 0
Top 5 Ky Played: 2
Top 10 Ky Played:3
Top 25 Ky/Nationally Played: 9
Average Against Top Teams: 13ppg
Madison Kellione
Top 25 Nationally Played: 0
Top 5 Ky Played: 0
Top 10 Ky Played:0
Top 25 Ky/Nationally Played: 1
Average Against Top Teams: 14ppg
Madison has only played against one Top 25 team, Mercer who are 25th.
*Rankings are from the latest Dave Cantrall’s Rating
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Regardless Moco is 2-0 vs Bourbon. There were no excuses the first time.
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Stats are like records, very misleading when you play a soft schedule! Harrison Co had a great record last season and instead of scheduling tougher this season and seeing how they match up against other good teams in the state they went back with a weak schedule. Most teams on their schedule are bottom teams from other regions. Shame on them! The 10th as well as all regions should really take that into consideration when voting on awards. Too many team around the state do this to boast great records and stats. To be considered the best you have to play against the best!
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Respect is earned not given! To be considered good you have to be willing to play good teams! I wouldn’t knock the other TEAMS in the region who are actually playing quality teams in prep for the post season. Jan 29 will be a good measurement on how Harrison stacks up amongst the top teams in the region. True chance to earn respect!
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I don’t think you can judge a team or season based off one game. Many good teams always have that one game they wish they could have back.
In most cases I would agree, BUT to a team that is atleast 40 point behind the top teams in the region is very hard to over look. Especially with that loss being at Harrison Co. Inline with what you are saying you can’t judge a team by its record! You have to look at the quality of teams they have played. Which goes back to my response to your original post.
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Shows how good Harrison is this year. 15-4 overall.
I would say a quality win but a 15-4 record with a soft schedule that has only one top 25 teams on it, which hasn’t been played yet, doesn’t mean anything! Especially, with one of the losses being by Paris at Harrison Co.
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Lincoln Co in control the whole game. Man they have looked good this weekend at the Toyota Classic. Emma King is a great player and this team is getting contributions from several. Haven’t seen a box score for this game yet but believe there were several hitting big shots for them. Will be interesting if they keep this play up rest of the way. Lincoln Co, Scott Co and Ryle are the best teams i’ve seen so far this year and right now i’d give the edge to Lincoln.
Did you watch any of Lincoln’s games? Maddy Boyle who plays point is the MVP on Lincoln’s team right now. She was in the zone against GRC and Scott Co didn’t get to watch her against Simon Kenton. A complete floor general! Sets her teammates up for buckets as well as gets her own! Plays with an edge and has great ball control! She lead Lincoln with 18ppg over the weekend. Would love to know how many apg she had? I’d say that’s more than a contributor!
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It was extremely unfair! Neither girl deserved ejection which comes with an additional two game suspension. Technical should have been issued and game played on.
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The other girl shoved Harrison twice. Harrison stood her ground didn’t back down but nor put her hands on the girl that shoved her. The video is out there somewhere.
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The girl got in Harrison face after she shoved her and Harrison stood her ground. Never once put her hands back on the girl but yet the ref ejected both players.
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Harrison was out due to a two game suspension where she was ejected in the Scott High game after being shoved when attempting to help a girl up who had fell into the stands. Instead of the Ref issuing a Technical on the girl who shoved he ejected both players. Unfortunat situation for Harrison!
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Key players Missing from the game:
Hayley Harrison 17.8ppg
Kennedy Igo 14.4ppg
Maleaha Ball 11.4ppg
That’s 66% of GRC Offense! So to only get beat by 10pts is pretty impressive. What other team can lose that much offense and still compete?
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GRC was missing their Top 3 players Harrison, Igo and Bell. All three have signed or committed to play D1. These girls are GRC’s top scorers as well as other stats.
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That is what is so puzzling! Other than Meredith showing frustration with Harrison guarding her this was an isolated incident. There were no warnings or anything prior to the double ejection. Harrison was simply trying to help Meredith up after she took a hard fall into the stands. Such a steep penalty for an incident that should have at most been a technical. Very unfortunate for Harrison who was trying to show sportsmanship.
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Still doesn’t explain Harrison being ejected as well. She didn’t put her hands on Meredith. Her only fault was she stood her ground when she was shoved.
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She probably deserved a technical for shoving but I don’t think it warranted getting ejected.
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Harrison guarded her in man. Both Harrison and Meredith were ejected the start of the 3rd period after Harrison trapped Meredith causing her to lose her balance and fall into the stands. Harrison went to help Meredith up but was shoved. Harrison was showing sportsmanship but was ejected due to Meredith reaction. Neither player deserved to be ejected.
2019 Miss Basketball Finalists
in KY Girls Basketball (High School)
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I still stand behind all that I posted! How can one be a candidate for the best player in the state but yet doesn’t play against the best teams in the state nor is their team a top 25 team in the state. I’m sure you are proud of your daughter and you should be as a parent. But when picking the best player for a Region it should be based on who they have played and the quality of team they play for and stats based off that! My responses were to those questioning Hayley but welcome to BGP!