Baseballinmyblood

I don’t understand how Madison Central is ranked #7 after they got beat out in the first round of the district last year by the #175th team. Lol!

Whether its a flawed system or not, PBR & Perfect Game are the only two venues that these High School kids have in order to be seen by college coaches. Yes, its pay for play. I've seen the the number of schools at Grand Park in Indy lined with college coaches from coast to coast. If someone's son is fortunate enough to be selected to a Team Kentucky or whoever, they will be seen. These coaches are not coming to your local high school to watch kids play. These kids can build a resume for themselves with rankings, (even if they aren't the 5th or 6th best person on their local high school team), and still be seen. I've seen firsthand kids get offers to D2 and smaller D1 schools just through the PBR process. While the same high school team that had the so called 2nd or 3rd best player not get solid offers.

I completely agree they benefit from PBR. Nobody can say otherwise. Just based on getting your name out there is better than nothing. The only thing I am saying is that if you are going to claim to have a ranking system, then be able to rank these kids accurately and by using the entire pool of players in the state. They are already getting paid by the players to have profiles. So why not take a step back and do the rankings correctly? I would think the players would want that as well. I’ve seen several examples over the years of players signing with major division 1 programs, however, they cannot make the PBR list. They would be better off not having one at all. You are right though, until somebody else steps-up and launches a new way, this and PG are your only options to get any kind of rankings.

He is definitely a great player and probably the exception to what I’m getting ready to say. However, the PBR Rankings are not at all accurate. You have kids in the top ten at their position when they aren’t even the top ten on their team. This whole situation where kids are having to pay the PBR in order to be ranked is an extremely flawed system. I understand that in the beginning they were trying to make money, but at this point I would think accuracy would trump monetary value. You have kids going around claiming to college coaches that they are one of the top players in the state. In reality, they are one of the top players out of a group that have memberships on PBR. How is that setting up colleges to accurately evaluate them?

A lot of coaches(especially old school guys) are retiring early and younger guys that are thrown into coaching with no experience are quitting as well. If you've never seen how parents behave or have never seen a positive way of dealing with parents, then you will be overwhelmed as a head coach. They will soon take over a program if you don't know what you are doing. Transparency and accountability are your only ways of dealing properly with parents.

That is completely 180 degrees from what the other story was.

That doesn't change anything just because he was a good player.

That seems to happen a lot. A kid gets his feelings hurt, his mom can't stand to see him upset, or maybe he isn't playing as much or playing the position he wants, or even if it was more serious. This is what you came up with? Lol. Why couldn't they meet with the administrators, lay out their case, and let them decide. That would have given the administration a chance for due process and talk to other players to see if this was an isolated incident, or if happened everyday. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of coaches that have no business coaching baseball at any level. Usually they do themselves in somehow. I can just imagine them sitting around the dinner table cooking up this scheme. Lol. I hate it for the kid because he has that attached to him now. I think maybe he should have gotten better advice from the grown ups around him.

Any news?

Sounds like a situation every good coach wants to go to. They will end up with having to roll the dice on an assistant coach looking for a head coaching job. I can't imagine a veteran coach going there after this, unless they've been fired from somewhere else.

Even the ones that did like him won't trust that kid anymore. He'll either quit or they will have a down year.

That probably makes it worse from a team standpoint.

I can't imagine any college coach looking serious at him if they are aware of this. I wouldn't be surprised if his parents put him up to it, but unfortunately it'll fall on him. When you look at good programs over a period of time they all have a "family" atmosphere. There won't be a serious coach interested in this job because that atmosphere is not reachable with that kid still on the team. What happens when a new coach gets hired and this family doesn't like how he is doing things? The coach will know he either plays him or he will be looking over his shoulder the whole time waiting on the other shoe to drop. Kids won't trust him either.

Imagine of Bobby Knight coaching during this era, or even Adolph Rupp.

Frank Spencer is who they hired I believe.

They should have found another way for that kids sake. He is going to get a reputation for doing that, and I hate to think a parent put him up to that. Regardless, if he is a jerk or whether or not he deserves to be fired, this player should have people around him looking out for his best interest better than this. From now on, he'll be referred to as "the kid that set his coach up." Whether or not it was deserved, is irrelevant. Nobody will hear the details. They'll only know him by that.

I was wondering when this would happen. He's the first coach I've ever seen put up a "Home of" sign of himself.

If the 14th region ever expects to win any games during the state tournament, they are going to have start playing teams they may see there.

It's looks like a pretty normal 14th region schedule. You basically have your district games which will get you 6-8 wins a year, then you have 2-3 games you play where you won't be favored, and the rest is mixed in with teams that will be a coin flip between the two. If they are projected to be really down this year then it'll be tough but they should have no issue being above.500 even if they are down.

I think in KY the law says that only one person has to be aware of the recording.

The only way it would be illegal is if it were a "wiretapping" scenario and neither party knew of it.

What is the whole truth?

I've seen very good coaches over the years not get interviewed. The majority of the time the administration has enough time to know who they want before the summer even starts. There is also a lot of political influence as well as nepotism that goes in coaching too. It is a brutal job nowadays. The days of coaches staying in one place for 25-30 years is gone. I can't believe in this situation more investigation wasn't done before they fired him, if that is what happened.

I stand corrected

As far as the KHSAA baseball tournament goes, it should have been obvious to everyone as soon as they expanded to 16 teams everything was going to be watered down. Some of the teams that played in the State Tournament this year were comical to watch.

As far as NKY goes, I wouldn't exactly call them a "hotbed" for talent. However, if you break-up the geographical regions in the state, they are statistically in the top 3. They will always be better than eastern Ky and more than likely Southern KY. There will be years when Western KY will be better than NKY in baseball, but I would have to say from top-to-bottom, Louisville would be the obvious #1 area for baseball. Lexington will have to be the #2 area in the state. So out of the 5 geographical areas(N,S,E,W,C), NKY and WKY would have to be tied for the #3 spot with SKY in at #4 and EKY falling-in the last spot at #5.

Im so confused on why you keep pushing this guy on every thread where a job is open? He graduated from Phelps if I'm not mistaken? I can't imagine him knowing too much about building a program. From what I can tell the whole time he's been at Bracken County he's never even won 20 games.

He doesn't want to listen, I've tried....classic case of not letting facts get in the way of his opinion. He's talked with more, seen more, and knows more than most.

I couldn't agree more