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Didn't Rodney Bushong lead Heath to their only state championship in the late 80s or early 90s or am I mistaken?

I believe Dixie Heights would have had a very good chance of winning the 5A state championship had they been 5A this year. That is not intended to take away from the Pulaski's championship this year--great year for that team and they won it on the field which is all that counts.

I just realized that next year's 5A will have 5 of this year's state finalists from this year (Dixie Heights, Graves, Pulaski, Highlands and Owenboro) and two districts with two state finalists (Graves and Owensboro in the first districts and Highlands and Dixie in the fifth district). 5A, 3A (with additions of LexCath and Boyle) and west half of 2A will be rugged next year. I expect Beechwood to own (win 50% or more of state championships with a 4 year sweep not unlikely) in the new 1A alignment.

On a related note the NCAA read this thread and decided to name Vanderbilt and Indiana the 2012 Co-Champions.

I realize facts can be optional but wouldn't UK also be Co-Champions with them under the "whose better based on head-to-head theory" because it also beat both of those teams that season (in addition to losing to each of them that year).

A team from Florida or Ohio.

....with 3 to 4 times more boys in their school than Highlands

Just to be clear MF, the post around 8:40pm tonight was NOT a BW fan

That's true. I should have identified that was just a general pot stir comment (a "ttt with a :sssh:" probably would have sufficed) and not a BW fan comment. That being said, I have great respect for both BW and MF programs and their traditions of success. Good luck to both teams this season. Can't ever close the book on either of these teams until somebody knocks beats them late in the playoffs.

Are they still smiling in Mayfield?

#nomoresmiling ???

It appears that rumors of the birds demise were greatly exaggerated

Birds had ball inside cch 10 3 times where they cane away with no points.

Geez...it has been like 3 minutes, no more scoring?

anybody got the webcast link handy?

Schneider and Jack Morris both very successful coaches and their records prove that out. One interesting similarity is that they both benefitted from a substantially larger base of actual and potential football talent that did not bump their school up to a larger school competitve class.

Schneider essentially had all of the Campbell County Catholic football talent but not the numbers counting against him because a sizable amount of the nonfootball students in the central and especially southern end of county would have attended Brossart. Would the perception of Newport Central Catholic be different if the name of the school was Campbell County Catholic which more accurately reflected its football team during the Schneider era as I expect that the vast majority of the football talent over that time was from the rest of the county (Ft. Thomas, Highland Heights, Southgate, Cold Spring, Alexandria, etc. and not Newport).

Similarly, Morris coached at Mayfield at a time when the Graves County school system was not consolidated and consisted of 7 or 8 small schools none of which fielded a football team so if you lived in Graves County and wanted to play football Mayfield was the only game in town (er, the county). So it similarly was able to pull football talent from a 6A size talent pool base while being able to play primarily in the smallest (or occasionally, next to smallest) class.

Again, both successful coaches and nothing improper about taking advantage of the beneficial circumstances applicable to their situation but both enjoyed meaningful competitive advantages that contributed significantly to their success. And because tradition and legacy of players (sons, grandsons and other family members) is so much more important in football than most sports because of the need for both elite talent and numbers the advantage built over that earlier period has helped sustain continuing success in both those programs.

Perhaps some other coaches listed above have enjoyed this type or similar advantages (other discussions on BGP over the years have referenced drawing talent from other nearby states or other areas not part of the school district ) and as also discussed on BGP and other message boards over the years ad nauseum probably most of the coaches have enjoyed some type of competitive advantage (private school, exceptional community support, etc.) that have been an important contributing factor in their success but that does not diminish the accomplishments of any of them but does perhaps add some helpful perspective.

Great race. Congrats to John-Michael Griffith and the the Highlands Bluebirds on a great race and on the state championship.

Congratulations to Jackson and UD! Great addition to UD football team and nice for him and his family to see him join his brother Will there.

Congrats to JM on first team honors and (belatedly) on his scholarship to NKU! Good luck to him and the Norse.

Coach Weinrich is the co-head coach of the team. So, if the other co-head coach stepped down wouldn't that automatically make him the head coach without further action being necessary?

Brian W new HC?

End of an era in both Highlands and Kentucky football.

With respect to the above I have no inside insight but I expect that it is no coincidence that Coach Weinrich has been listed as Co-head coach the past few years. Following a coaching legend in any sport is an unenviable task to say the least (and even more so when following the kind of person Coach Mueller is) but it appears to me that Coach Mueller has been trying to prepare Coach Weinrich to succeed him in that role in many ways for a number of years and I think that Coach Weinrich is well prepared and the right guy to step into that role (and would note that he is 1-0 with a state championship under his belt already from last year's championship game). I further expect that you will see Coach Mueller make great efforts to support the successor coach (whoever it is) in every way possible (including staying out of the picture where helpful to let the new coach make the job their own).

State Titles are officially meaningless in KY. Running clock in a state title game? What an absolute joke.

 

And people wonder why Highlands gets no respect as soon as they cross the river. Mind-boggling to me.

 

Hope you have nice weather for the trip and don't fall asleep during your state title game.

 

-CardinalsFan

Since we are sending SKFan pictures it won't be any trouble to send you a copy so you can see what a state championship game looks like as well.

And people wonder why Colerain fan gets no respect as soon as they troll across the digital river. Mind-boggling to me.

Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post

Serious questions I am hoping you can answer. What class would Highlands play in if they were in Ohio? Is there any team in that class that could play with them?

Oh there are plenty in Ohio that can.

I saw the DIII teams posted by Fishhead but don't know much about them (unless Lebron is coming back to St. Mary's). Best comparison is Highlands played Elder essentially even at the Pitt. Do you think Elder could/would win Ohio DIII this year? I expect most would.

I like Dale's chances in his first game against Collins.

I like Dale's chances in his first game coaching against Collins.

I wasn't able to see or listen to the game but sounds like it was played with a lot of emotion as it should be. CCH is closing the gap a little each year.

 

Congrats Birds on another title.

I don't know that I disagree with the bolded sentiment above which others have indicated in various ways in messages on here but I am curious about the basis for it as the playoff score is exactly the same as last year (28-13--and the late game score by CCH could be argued as making this year's game slightly less competitive than last year) and the regular season game was much less competitive than the prior year. Is it because of the same results despite meaningful injuries to CCH personnel, that injuries to upperclassman this year led to more development of underclassmen for the next two years, optimism produced by the first CCH frosh win in the series in the last 10 years, encouragement of the new CCH youth football system in developing players, some combination of those or something more or other than that? Both schools will graduate much heralded (and, in my limited view, justifiably so) senior classes so perhaps the view is more of a fresh start next year than most.

I'd have to say Male. Playing and beating Trinity and St. X twice each (4 times total) in the same season is pretty impressive. Also have 3 TD+ wins against two of the other remaining 6A semi-finalists. Complete schedule below.

Aug 23, 13 at Floyd Central, IN 62 - 16 (W) Click

Aug 30, 13 Butler home 42 - 21 (W) Click

Sep 6, 13 Fairdale home 52 - 14 (W) Click

Sep 13, 13 Jeffersontown home 47 - 0 (W) Click

Sep 27, 13 Ballard away 40 - 0 (W) Click

Oct 4, 13 Meade County away 41 - 12 (W) Click

Oct 11, 13 St. Xavier away 44 - 40 (W) Click

Oct 18, 13 Trinity (Louisville) home 24 - 14 (W) Click

Oct 25, 13 DuPont Manual away 29 - 32 (L) Click

Nov 1, 13 Christian Academy-Louisville home 6 - 0 (W) Click

Nov 8, 13 Oldham County home 48 - 0 (W) Click 2013 Class 6A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl

Nov 15, 13 St. Xavier home 23 - 21 (W) Click 2013 Class 6A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl

Nov 22, 13 Trinity (Louisville) home 31 - 7 (W) no 2013 Class 6A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl

Nov 29, 13 Scott County home

Cody Zeller ✔ @CodyZeller

 

It's always a good night when UK gets beat. Michigan State is the real deal. They have a lot of veteran guys who can really play!

10:03 PM - 12 Nov 2013

 

 

Oh, and the Hoosiers beat LIU-Brooklyn by 1 tonight.

I take it he was he still wearing his NCAA Sweet Sixteen T-shirt and matching candy-striped pants when he tweeted this.

I am sorry and I apologize. I should not have changed your reply in a quote where it might be misleading to someone quickly reading through a thread. I won't do it again.:thumb:

 

 

Lighten up Francis, if anyone didn't think it was a joke then they have more problems than I can get into on here. Since you are so sensitive let me say this about your post I quoted. You talking about misquoting etc. well your post was crap when you make blanket satements about what EVERYONE thinnks about the Football playoffs.

 

Do me a favor Francis, don't speak for me anymore on here and I won't have to change your posts.

Fixed it for you.:thumb:

"Loose lips sink ships" (even those captained by colonels)