LadyNorse1975

Did anyone in attendance at Connor Convocation Center @ Thomas More College notice anything alarming about the basketball court and surroundings ?

 

There is absolutely NO padding on any of the end walls under the baskets. At one end there are two what appear to be large, metal HVAC louvered panels.

 

Am I just a keen eyed barrister looking for future business or is this a real hazard to the players that may run, get pushed or fall out of bounds?

 

I'm curious if others noticed this situation. I can't believe college players haven't ran into the bare walls and injured themselves by now.

That happens in lots of gyms. There is always metal of something, just unavoidable in basketball arenas. TMC is very safe, I assure you. I go to practice there a couple of times a week and never saw anyone get hurt by what you are concerned over.

You lost an awfully good coach when Nancy Winstel left and replaced her with a woman who is just there until the next job opens up, a stepping stone is all NKU means to Coach P. Coach Winstel won two national championships for NKU and I understand her recruits are the only reason NKU is winning right now.

I can't believe I agree with you on another subject. Twice in one day!

That is correct. But NKU had looked ahead at the possibility, and those were regular season games. This time things are completely different. This is more like 2008-09 when the following happened:

 

1) The BOKC had a chance to get the Ringling Brothers/Barnum Bailey Circus for 4-5 nights in a row. To do so, NKU had to either play its final 2 regular season doubleheaders in Regents Hall and have a chance at hosting the women NCAA Women's Tournament in March. Or

 

2) Go ahead and play the final 2 regular season doubleheaders in the BOKC and give up the week of the NCAA Women's Tournament. The lady who was the Athletic Director at the time, along with Les Crooks, Ken Ramey and another NKU VP who is no longer there and I can't think of his name, agreed to take the week of the NCAA Women's Tournament.

 

3) NKU tried to get one of the GLVC teams to trade home games, they would not, so NKU had to play in Regents Hall. NKU lied to its season ticket holders all summer, then finally fessed up to them AFTER they played U of L in the exhibition. NKU tried to get people to buy up season tickets to go to the U of L game because they paid U of L a HALF MILLION DOLLARS to play in the BOKC. Sadly, the game did not sell out even though a great crowd was there.

 

4) That same year, the 9th and 10th region tournaments were both held in the BOKC. Little known fact is NKU was in position to host BOTH GLVC men's and women's tournaments late in season. Due to conflict, they would have been played in Regents Hall due to the buffoonery on NKU's part. I believe the top seeds were to host the GLVC. Luckily for NKU, both their teams lost and they avoided the embarrassment of hosting the GLVC - played at same days s 9th and 10th regions! - in Regents Hall.

 

This year's escapade seems more like 2008-09 because of the lack of planning. I think it was just a cover-up in 2008-09, coincidentally, all those mentioned are gone, I believe, besides Ramey. There are former NKU coaches and administrators who I have talked to who all verified this story. It was a mess. Scott Eaton also played a role in the U of L exhibition game: His sons were both U of L basketball managers, and Scott convinced the NKU brass to give U of L a HALF MILLION DOLLARS to show up for a exhibition game. Love that taxpayer money going into Pitino's pockets! lol.

I was a ticket owner the first year and most of what you said is truth. Jane Meier was the AD, but she had nothing to do with the games being played in Regents Hall. It was a VP named Zeb Davenport, Dr. Votruba, Les Crooks and Ken Ramey who orchestrated that deal and made NKU play in Regents Hall so the Bank of Ky. could host the circus. It was not Jane.

Jane was strong-armed and forced into going along with a dirt deal. I admit $$$ spoke in this case, because the circus had huge crowds. But the NKU administration sold its soul in this case at the expense of the young men and women they recruit and tell how important they are until money talks.

I do know Scott's son was a manager for Louisville at the time. I do not know if there was a connection with the large amount of money NKU paid Louisville, it was a DH with the women that night, which BOKC Wildcat conveniently left out.

None of that excuses the current NKU administration if this is the truth about this year.

I also disagree with you about Ken Shields being the next AD. I think he is a good person, but probably not a good choice at this point in his life with all the stress of being a College AD. I am with you 100% the guy they have now as AD is a joke, but he just reflects the President who is running NKU into the ground. One of the saddest comments I heard at a alumni function two weeks ago is NKU is becoming a laughingstock in Frankfort because of Geoff Mearns, that we are closer to being Kentucky State than UK. That says it all, and is very sad.

The NKU women won as well and had a nice crowd. I say at least two thousand or over. Lots of students in attendance, great night for the Lady Norse and Norsemen!

More great news today is that Thomas More College Women's Basketball is 21-0 and looking to go unbeaten in the regular season for the second straight season. They are one of the best Division III teams in the nation.

Thomas More has the best player in Division III in Boone County graduate Sydney Moss. Sydney is about to be the National Player of the Year for the second straight year. The Saints are in position to win it all this season and deserve more attention than they are getting locally.

Jeff Hans is a great person and a fantastic coach. Good luck in the tournament!

I was at the NKU Hall of Fame Induction Lunch today and the 2008 Women's Basketball National Champions were honored and inducted as a team! Great to see many of the ladies after several years!

Coach Nancy Winstel did one of the most remarkable jobs ever that season for NKU as they won the NCAA Division II National Title. Coach Winstel is already in the Hall of Fame as an individual, and her 2000 NKU Team also won the National Championship.

Great job ladies!

One final thought on the Throwback Night in Regents Hall: NKU should honor two of its best known names and while the Dance Team performs Elvis Presley's "Jailhouse Rock" have former NKU employees Scott Eaton and Jennifer Hilvert dance the Texas Two-Step at half court, surrounded by mice. lol!

Real funny. Scott and Jen gave years of good service and donated lots of time for free to help promote NKU, yet you take shots at them because they made mistakes.

Scott is really a good person who tried to handle too many things in his role as AD. One day he will get to explain his side of the story, which has been one sided by the press. He worked more hours than any one in that entire department while employed at NKU. Yes his judgment was bad, but he is a human being. Have you ever done anything wrong, BOKC Wildcat?

I do not understand the fuss about Jen and her situation, she paid back any money to NKU and lost her job. They go after Jen for having her family go on the trip with her, yet they allow the NKU AD to take his wife on basketball road trips. Who is paying for the AD's wife's hotels, flights and meals? Sam with Jen, only they did not give the Dance Team a decent budget to work with like Ken Bothof has. Jen is no different than him in that instance.

Just my two cents on your sinister humor re: Scott and Jen dancing in Regents Hall.

It stinks, but is the business of this stuff. If the kid is good enough, he should land on his feet. I loathe Petrino, however, this is pretty standard ractice in "BIG BOY" college football.

Does Bobby Petrino help the U of L Volleyball Coach recruit?

That is a good question, one that I can not answer. If mice and skunks - yes, that's what the girl in the Rec Center said! - are parading around and inside Regents Hall, I say call the exterminator. I am not very familiar with the ins and outs of asbestos, so I will take your word on that part.

It appears to me as if mice and MOLES named BOKC Wildcat are infesting the Bank of Kentucky Center. You are a mouse for bashing women behind a keyboard, and a MOLE for revealing all this information you probably sneak around getting while on the clock working for SMG.

In other words, if NKU gets an exterminator, hopefully they come over and see you as well, BOKC Wildcat. Sorry to be harsh, but your leaking info to the public learned while on the job for SMG is sinister. First to admit I take it hard when I see women's sports bashed because of attendance, but you take the cake.

Hopefully the exterminator will rid the Bank of Kentucky Center of you, Coach P. and that AD too. Then again, I am a dreamer and an optimist.

I have a really hard time believe his comments regarding asbestos are accurate considering all the other activities that take place in Regents. He's just trying to stir up trouble.

 

Any building that was built before '78-79 probably has asbestos in it. That doesn't mean there is an asbestos issue. I'd be willing to bet many of the schools that BGP members went or have kids going to, has asbestos in it. Doesn't mean they have an asbestos problem either. Just have to make sure its controlled or abated.

He better not be right. If he is . . .

Was with you until you started bashing Coach P, the current women's coach. She is a very good coach and great for the university, very outgoing and approachable. A lot like Kenny Shields and Nancy Winstill.

Ask former assistant Coach Gabby Johnson about how "great" Coach P. is for NKU. Gabby is a great young lady who Coach P. sent packing without even telling her. She even had her new assistant coach move into Gabby's office while Gabby was still working there. Ask around to those in the "Lady Norse" family about Coach P.

Ask about Michele Cottrell's number 22 jersey while your at it and what went on there to allow a current player to wear it. You might change your opinion of Coach P.

I never bashed, just gave attendance facts. You are wrong about the crowds as well. IT DOES INDEED MATTER how many people show up as the BOKC is there to make money, not provide young women with an education as you state.

 

SMG runs the BOKC to bring in revenue, NKU women's basketball loses money by playing their games there. What is so hard to understand about that? I can tell you are going to say Title 9 and all that stuff, but this is the real world, not some idealistic college sports island where you can get your way playing the female card. SMG cares about making money, accommodating NKU for each home game and they do that or we would have more and better concerts and acts.

 

I know all about the contract with Kennesaw State, and you are correct on that point. You are wrong about making the men play in Regents Hall just to make a equality point. Now I think MOST NKU men's games would be better served in Regents Hall, with selected games in the BOKC. I think ALL women's games should be in Regents Hall. If they can call an exterminator, that is, and get the Asbestos removed. lol.

I had no intention of bringing up Title IX as that is not applicable to where they play. My point is who cares how many people are in the stands? You make an issue out of it and single out the women.

Why don't you bring up the small crowds the men draw? From looking at some of your past posts on other threads, it's all about bashing the women's crowds. I attended the men's game against UC Clermont two months ago and there weren't 500 people in the stands. Yet I was at the women's game last Saturday and I know there were over a thousand in attendance.

If your point about mice and asbestos is anywhere near accurate, the women better not play in Regents Hall later this season or there will be enough lawsuits from fans and players parents to fill up The Bank of Kentucky.

Depends on how many NKU students show. The frats and girls will be there for the King and Queen announcement at halftime of the men's game. Sadly, they all leave right after that is made.

 

I would say the ACTUAL attendance will be anywhere between 2,500 and 3,000 for the men's game. Look for 200 or so for tip off of the women's game. That one should be played in Regents Hall. lol. But the women will get their chance in Regents Hall in a couple of weeks against Kennesaw State for Retro Night (wink, wink).

I am sick of hearing about the women's sports bashings by NKU haters and want to respond. I played for Coach Scroggin on the first Lady Norse teams years ago and the women were always treated great by the staff and professors. Women's Basketball and Volleyball were better than Men's Basketball by far when NKSC started sports for women.

To hear this man/woman BOKC Wildcat continually speak negatively about NKU Women's Basketball attendance is childish. Women's sports at NKU were established to provide opportunities for young women and a path for a college education, not crowds. Who cares about the crowd? Whether it's 100 people of 10,000, it's still a game.

I find it also offensive the current NKU administration has chosen to move a women's game to Regents Hall and not the men's as well. Believe me when I say I am not a fan of the current NKU Women's Basketball Head Coach because I think she is all wrong for this campus, but that is another topic. I still can not believe they moved a ASUN conference game to that broken down dump Regents Hall. NKU's Athletics Director Ken Bothof made a big mistake by letting the Bank officials sign something else, agreed to play on a Sunday and then Kennesaw State said no, we want to play on Saturday. They had a contract, but the NKU AD refused to fight of our school and the Women's Head Coach agreed to play in Regents Hall.

So playing in Regents Hall is on both the AD and Head Coach. They have allowed NKU Women's Basketball to take a back seat. Marilyn Scroggin Moore, Jane Meier, Nancy Winstel would never have allowed such to happen. I feel sorry for the girls as well.

So quit bashing women and learn the facts BOKC Wildcat.