RainMaker

Semantics I suppose. What you call a "big upset" I call a bad draw.

Do you think that because they beat #1 twice or do you have some inside information?

Really hard to get back to finals after losing your first game. Too many games between now and Saturday afternoon. I agree that MNH should walk to finals of winners bracket at least.

#6 beating #1 is not a big upset. An unranked team, maybe. This was just two good teams playing and one won. I wouldn't call it a "big" upset.

Who would have ever thought that Holy Cross would play Fern Creek for the opportunity to go to Owensboro?

You heard him say that? Everyone seems to know someone that heard these things, but no one actually says they heard it.

I always enjoy from afar the threads that criticize this guy when he consistently beats the teams of fans that complain. I've yet to hear a fan of a competitive team complain. McCracken's fans don't complain. Hell, from what I understand, kids from the best teams play for him in the summer. Bullitt East complains because they can't get out of the 6th. Ballard complains because he moved to the 7th and they can't beat him. I'm not saying winning is everything, but I am saying if he is so bad, I can't imagine him continuing to be successful like he is. I don't know him, have never seen him or heard him coach, but conventional wisdom tells me that if everyone complains about you and you still win, you must be doing something right.

sounds to me like a dad complaining that his kid isn't pitching. A senior that doesn't make varsity should just be cut. In fact, in Kentucky she can't play jv. Let the coach do their job. Message boards are not a good place for parents.

How did they blow that game against Mercy?

I've eaten at Cattlemen's several times and have never had a good steak. Salad bar is fine.

Probably an error on a throw relating to tie break runner. Doesn't say error was on batter.

MNH's offensive performance in state tournament makes their impressive season offensive stats look suspect.

I realize that teams change every year with graduation, but an idea would be to seed the regions based upon how they performed the previous year in the state tournament. So, Scott County would be the #1 seed this year because they won last year, etc. I know its not perfect because if Scott County were to be upset in the Regional, another team would get the best seed undeserved, but its a thought.

Can not fake the throw as the kid in the video did. Nor as described earlier with "fake" overthrow of 1st with everyone scampering "for ball"

Can fake to first if you step back off rubber first. Then everyone can go scampering for the ball.

Again, you're missing my point. I know those examples are against the rules (although not at all levels). Just used them as examples of types of deception that would be considered poor gamesmenship. The whole legal/illegal thing isn't the point. The play described in the topic is perfectly legal. But some don't like it because it's a form of deception, like the examples I gave. Maybe I used bad examples. I understand what I'm trying to say even if nobody else does;)

I guess I see your point, maybe I just don't agree with people that would equate this to poor sportsmanship and definitely do not equate it to deceptively violating a rule. Coaches give signals instead of just yelling steal or bunt. Is this deceptive to give your kid a sign that is meant to not let the other side know what you are going to do?

I've actually seen a similar play in the College World Series where a ball boy down the first base line was in on it. That gets closer.

Both of the examples you use are in fact against the rules.

Why would anyone other than the kid that got picked off and his third base coach have a problem with this play?

If my kid threw pee on a teammate, the coach and AD would not have to deal with it. He would be done because I said he was done. To everyone that says "these are 17 year old kids", your 17 year old kid must be worse than mine. After about 6 years old you know not to pee or poop on people. To do otherwise makes you not a nice person, to the core, worthy of the wrath of whoever can give it to you. I hope they are all kicked off the team.They knew better, but did it anyway.

Keep in mind that Scott County and Mercy don't always throw their No. 1. In the last, I don't know, let's just say bunch, of years, Mercy and Scott County are at state despite an OK start. Don't get your hopes up in Versailles.

In his short time at UK, Drew Barker seems to have his name in the news for all the wrong reasons. There are about 10,000 other D-1 college football players who have managed not to do that. If I'm coach I can't say I would be to excited about my hopes of future success being put in the hands of a guy like this.

You are right. I don't know if he is guilty of a crime, and I don't know his family likely some of you pretend to. But I can tell you that the kid needs to grow up fast, because he is proving that he is either a spoiled brat or an idiot. Once you get in trouble, deserved or not, you run from fights if you are an athlete that could make news. Everyone that says that "boys will be boys" or "college kids drink" are absolutely right. But, here is the big but, if you are trying to win the starting quarterback job at an SEC school, you are not a normal college student. He doesn't want to be treated like a normal student when it is supper time. He eats at the athlete mess hall. He doesn't want to beat treated like a normal student when tuition is due. It is paid for. Quit taking up for these kids, make them grow up and maybe we will be successful some day in football. Why aren't the basketball players getting in trouble? We win in basketball.

I'm confused how you can punish someone for something he hasn't been proven guilty of yet. Let alone a case that has taken 2 years to be even tried, which honestly blows my mind.

Are you talking about Tubman? It hasn't been two years. Six months maybe.

no they skip the event . Of course they compete . What are getting at ? you have to be a powerhouse to be in the geographical area that host the event ?

My point is simply that if the champion comes from the center of the state or west every year, why make everyone drive to Ashland? It seems that the final four is generally in the central or western part of the state. If you are playing late in the tournament, you shouldn't have to drive as far home as the people that lose early.

Bowling green is over 4 hours from Ashland , you think it's fair to parents grandparents and friends/ fans to have to arrange for an overnight stays while several other regions can just drive 1/2 hr or an hour ? If it can't be in central ky then rotate it back and forth between eastern ky and western ky .

Do the teams from that part of the state compete?

Bowling green is over 4 hours from Ashland , you think it's fair to parents grandparents and friends/ fans to have to arrange for an overnight stays while several other regions can just drive 1/2 hr or an hour ? If it can't be in central ky then rotate it back and forth between eastern ky and western ky .

Do the teams from that part of the state compete?

Wow! I have NO previous experience with the coach from Ashland, and he could be the greatest game coach ever, but after what I saw that day in Owensboro it did not give a very good first impression of a coach that emphasizes the life lessons taught by the game especially those taught through sportsmanship!

I can't believe people are still criticizing the coach that was the benefactor of a bad call. Even if he tells the umpire that he thinks it was a homerun, the umpire doesn't change his calls based upon what coaches think he should have called. Was the coach that didn't talk the major league umpire into changing the call at first that cost a kid a perfect game several years ago cheating? Come on, man.