Does Scuba's idea have any legs? (Trinity out of the KHSAA)

[theguru]

He said quote, "I see Trinity breaking away from the KHSAA in a few years to join a regional confernence of HS teams."

[tcjkbt]

How many teams across the country are not members of their respective state associations? I haven't heard of this, not saying it doesn't exist.

[born2reign]

There are some prep schools that operate this way. They play other prep schools, JV teams of D1 NCAA programs or Junior College programs. Those schools have the overwhelming majority of their players coming from the post-graduate ranks, however. So, most of their players are 18, 19 or 20.

[tdyballgame]

What advantage would T have by doing this. And I thought I read somewhere it's the whole sports program or none.

[85BearsFan]

I don't see the point in it. Cin. Moeller was whipping everyone for decades, heck their coach was promoted to Notre Dame, rather rightly or wrongly, he was. And things happened as the rest of the area caught up to them. Yea, HS football is a little different now, however you get the point. Still not sure, after watching T play Cin. St. X, if T had an off night or if Cin St. X was just that well coached. X had two players, based on the eyeball test that would play at T. If the latter is true then the T coach needs some seasoning.

A great year for T nonetheless, but let's cease all sillytalk.

[Clyde]

ZERO chance.

[RockPride]

^ Exactly....we need the KHSAA more than they need us.

[Trinity alum]

NO chance it will ever happen. We aren't interested in going down that road.

[All Tell]

As much trouble as Trinity now has getting a schedule it would be compounded if they went rogue. By rule they would not be able to play any KHSAA member schools (no X match-up), and I'm fairly certain that Indiana and Ohio also have prohibitions in place about member schools not being allowed to play teams that aren't in their state associations. This won't happen.

[HIGHLANDS GUY]

Even if it would work in football, I would think it would be a disaster for every other sport.

[sportsfan41]

Won't happen. Every other school in their class wishes it would.

[Terp]

There are some prep schools that operate this way. They play other prep schools, JV teams of D1 NCAA programs or Junior College programs. Those schools have the overwhelming majority of their players coming from the post-graduate ranks, however. So, most of their players are 18, 19 or 20.

 

There are many high schools that operate this way, with only high school age players. Check out Maryland for an example. Good Counsel and Dematha are national powers in football. They do not compete for a state championship. The state association keeps a list of non-member schools that agree to comply with the "Standards of Competition". Member schools may play any school on the list. Both Good Counsel and Dematha are on that list. This means they can play any in-state member schools. They also both play out of state games regulary. If you're curious, here's the list of the 94 approved non-member schools:

MPSSAA.org

 

If Trinity were interested (and based on the posts above, they may not be) they would have to request some rule changes by KHSAA, but it could certainly be done.

[ft bronc]

There are many high schools that operate this way, with only high school age players. Check out Maryland for an example. Good Counsel and Dematha are national powers in football. They do not compete for a state championship. The state association keeps a list of non-member schools that agree to comply with the "Standards of Competition". Member schools may play any school on the list. Both Good Counsel and Dematha are on that list. This means they can play any in-state member schools. They also both play out of state games regulary. If you're curious, here's the list of the 94 approved non-member schools:

MPSSAA.org

 

If Trinity were interested (and based on the posts above, they may not be) they would have to request some rule changes by KHSAA, but it could certainly be done.

 

Given the length of that list of schools, I wonder if there are some dynamics at play in Maryland different from KY. Otherwise, I can't imagine why that many schools wouldn't want to play for their state's championship.

[Terp]

Keep in mind that list is for all sports, it includes schools which don't offer football and it includes all girls schools.

 

The different dynamic at play is that private schools don't play for the state championship in that state. Those schools create their own conferences and play for conference championships. By the way, some of those conferences include schools from out of state. Dematha and Good Counsel play in a conference with Gonzaga and St. John's, both of which are located in Washington, D.C. The arrangment doesn't preclude private schools from playing public schools during the regular season or from playing out of state schools.

[AAATC]

As a side bar to this conversation, New York does not allow private (Catholic) schools to participate in state playoffs.

Many of the private schools play a large portion of their schedule out of state.