What Penalties would you like to see "added on"?

[All Play No Work]

Confining this to just high school games for now..........which penalties would you like to see yardage "added on" to?

 

For example, Team A kicks off to Team B to start the game. Team A was offsides on the kick which Team B returned to the 35 yard line.

 

Currently, Team B can decline the penalty and take the ball at the 35 or make Team A re-kick from five yards further back.

 

With the "add-on" Team B can take the ball at the 35 and "add-on" the five yards and advance the ball to the 40. Or they can make Team A re-kick.

 

I kind of like adding on the yardage for certain penalties.

 

Thougths?

[mountainmojo68]

I dont want to see anything added on, I would just like to the penaltys or non calls done properly. Our football officiating in this state is a joke.

[HHSDad]

Is facemask currently an add-on? If not, it should be.

[malachicrunch]

I would like to see a kickoff returned from the endzone. I still do not understand that rule. What is the difference from catching the ball on the 1 yard line, or 3 yards in the endzone. Please don't say 4 yards, as I see it that is the only difference. A kickoff return is one of the most exciting plays in a game. I've seen quite a few kicks go in the endzone BOOORRIINNGG! I guess this is outside the subject of this thread,still think it should be changed

[DaBirdMan]

This is not a penalty but I would like to see the ball come back to the original line of scrimmage after a missed field goal. As it is, ther is a bonus given the kicking team if they miss a long field goal attempt and the ball is placed at the 20 for the ensuing drive. Why would a team not try the 45-50 yard field goal if they automatically set the opposing team back to the 20 if they miss it?

[Theoldguy]

This is not a penalty but I would like to see the ball come back to the original line of scrimmage after a missed field goal. As it is, ther is a bonus given the kicking team if they miss a long field goal attempt and the ball is placed at the 20 for the ensuing drive. Why would a team not try the 45-50 yard field goal if they automatically set the opposing team back to the 20 if they miss it?

 

I thought the ball only came back to the twenty if it went into the endzone? If it falls short of the endzone, can't you run it back and consider that most teams don't send someone down the field like they would on a punt, but block, isn't it easier to get some decent yardage out of it? Of course if you have a very good Place Kicker it usually is three points or brought back to the 20.

 

No, I like the rule as it is, as it gives kids the chance to showcase their skills who if you had the NFL rule, would never get a chance to try a Field Goal.

[Hey-Ref]

The penalty for defensive facemask is enforced from the end of the run, so it is an add-on. Other add-on fouls include roughing the passer or defensive pass interference when the pass is completed.

 

Kicks cannot be returned from behind the goal line because they are touchbacks by rule. This is one of the most common suggested rule changes I hear.

 

If a field goal attempt is short of the goal line, it is treated the same as a punt. It can be returned, or downed by the kicking team. If it crosses the goal line it is a touchback, and next put in play at the 20 yardline.

[Charger1]

This is not a penalty but I would like to see the ball come back to the original line of scrimmage after a missed field goal. As it is, ther is a bonus given the kicking team if they miss a long field goal attempt and the ball is placed at the 20 for the ensuing drive. Why would a team not try the 45-50 yard field goal if they automatically set the opposing team back to the 20 if they miss it?

 

I'll second that one. That is a stupid rule. We lost 20 yards of field position on a missed FG

[Hey-Ref]

Let me make this a bit more clear. There is no advantage to trying a long FG versus a punt, and in fact is riskier as FG's are more easily blocked than punts. Here's why.

 

Scenario: A's ball 4th and 5 at B's 35, making this either a 52 yard FG attempt, or a punt.

 

A chooses FG which is short of GL and downed by A at B's 5 yardline. 1st & 10 B at B 5.

A chooses punt and the kicked ball is downed by A at B's 5 yardline. 1st & 10 B at B 5.

If either kick crosses the GL it is a touchback and B gets the ball 1st & 10 at B 20.

 

Now suppose the missed FG places the ball back at the B 35. A will more than likely punt the ball anyway rather than assume the high risk of missing and giving B the ball on B's 35. B loses nothing in that decision making process, because the FG will no longer be attempted unless inside or very close to the B 20. And good place kickers will not get as many opportunities to try FG's, taking a valuable scoring opportunity away.

 

Most high school kickers cannot make FG's longer than 20-25 yards consistently enough to punish teams for trying and missing, and some teams don't even have placekickers to try. This changes greatly at NCAA or NFL levels, which is why the rule is different.

[Jeepman]

Since we have a ref on here I have a question regarding kickoffs.

 

Team Red kicks off to team blue. Team red kicks an onside kick. The ball travels ten yards in the air without touching the ground. A player on team red catches the ball in the air. Why does team blue get the ball? I realize it is because the ball did not touch the ground but why. I also realize that if team blue signals for a fair catch team red must give them the opportunity to field the ball. I've seen this happen on one occation.

[Hey-Ref]

In order for the kicking team to retain possession of a free kick, the ball must either travel 10 yards and be grounded, or be first touched by a member of the receiving team.

 

If the kicking team touches a free kick in flight anywhere it is automatically kick catching interference.

 

Members of the receiving team can signal for a fair catch of any legally kicked ball.

[Hey-Ref]

The penalty for defensive facemask is enforced from the end of the run, so it is an add-on. Other add-on fouls include roughing the passer or defensive pass interference when the pass is completed.

 

I stand corrected. Defensive Pass Interference is NOT an addon foul, but is always enforced from the previous spot. I should better proof read my self before clicking away. Thanks to FBRules for catching the error.

[CoachBuckett]

This is not a new penalty. But i would like for high School officials to learn how to properly call chop block. To many Shotgun Offenses get away with cutting at the line of scrimmage once the BALL LEAVES the zone. I have yet seen any official call this penalty the way its supose to be called.

 

I may be wrong. But I understand the rule to say once the ball leaves the free blocking zone you can no longer cut a player. Well if you are in the shotgun the ball leaves the free blocking zone in a matter of a second, when the center snapps the ball.

[FBRULES]

CB,

 

You are correct, but it's not a chop block. It's a block below the waist. A chop block happens in the FBZ when a player is blocking an opponent and another player contacts the opponent at the knee or below.

 

The play you described is a different rule.

 

Maybe you should brush up yourself before throwing stones.

[sml007]

I believe we need less rules. Half of the rules in the rule book aren't called anyway. Not one official officiates the game the same. Officials need more training and need to have consequences when they are terrible. Also, they should be rewarded when they are very good. In NKY I would say that a majority of the officials are decent, but some need to take their significant others out on dates on Friday nights in the fall rather than have "powertrip" Friday and control the fate of High School kids. My 2 cents!

 

If they were to get rid of a rule. IMO the worst rule in football in loss of down and 15 yards for offensive pass interference!