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Read the threads about the realignment and you'll see a lot of preening, pouting, and pontificating in regards to X and T being placed in the same district.

 

For some reason many of those people feel it's their right and the KHSAA"s obligation to set up the brackets so that two Louisville powers with the most enrollment in the state meet in early December to decide who the best 6A team is in the commonwealth.

 

Who ever said that it's the obligation of the state to get the two best teams to the finals? It rarely happens and losing in the state finals does not mean that you are the second best team in the state despite what SK and Ryle fans might have you believe.

 

The brackets are regionally based and always will be. It gets representatives from separate parts of the state ...as it should.

 

Unless you go to a season where all of the top teams from around the state play each other so that the KHSAA can seed intelligently the current system is the only way to do it despite what some of the elites of Louisville would have you believe.

 

In other words, in regards to what game X and T might meet it in, who gives a darn? It doesn't matter in any other division. Why should it matter in regards to these two teams?

 

Let me state for the record that I'm not impugning all fans of the two programs. I am criticizing those that seem to feel entitled or feel that they're the "victims" of the dastardly beaurocrats in Lexington. Get over your collective selves.

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Read the threads about the realignment and you'll see a lot of preening, pouting, and pontificating in regards to X and T being placed in the same district.

 

For some reason many of those people feel it's their right and the KHSAA"s obligation to set up the brackets so that two Louisville powers with the most enrollment in the state meet in early December to decide who the best 6A team is in the commonwealth.

 

Who ever said that it's the obligation of the state to get the two best teams to the finals? It rarely happens and losing in the state finals does not mean that you are the second best team in the state despite what SK and Ryle fans might have you believe.

 

The brackets are regionally based and always will be. It gets representatives from separate parts of the state ...as it should.

 

Unless you go to a season where all of the top teams from around the state play each other so that the KHSAA can seed intelligently the current system is the only way to do it despite what some of the elites of Louisville would have you believe.

 

In other words, in regards to what game X and T might meet it in, who gives a darn? It doesn't matter in any other division. Why should it matter in regards to these two teams?

 

Let me state for the record that I'm not impugning all fans of the two programs. I am criticizing those that seem to feel entitled or feel that they're the "victims" of the dastardly beaurocrats in Lexington. Get over your collective selves.

 

I said as much earlier.

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I find it extremely humorous that many are making comments about the KHSAA making them money with this move out of one side of their mouths, and complaining out of the other.

 

The KHSAA will lose money because of putting X and T in the same district. It changes nothing outside of that. You've made Pride Week into the biggest district game of the year...thats all, but why take what could be 200 grand out of your pocket to send T and X into the same district? Poor financial move any way you look at it.

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The KHSAA will lose money because of putting X and T in the same district. It changes nothing outside of that. You've made Pride Week into the biggest district game of the year...thats all, but why take what could be 200 grand out of your pocket to send T and X into the same district? Poor financial move any way you look at it.

 

Exactly. Let the haters hate while we collect trophies.

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The KHSAA will lose money because of putting X and T in the same district. It changes nothing outside of that. You've made Pride Week into the biggest district game of the year...thats all, but why take what could be 200 grand out of your pocket to send T and X into the same district? Poor financial move any way you look at it.

 

I don't think the game is worth anywhere near $200,000. The KHSAA's own financial statements put total revenues from all classes at about $300,000 even in years when there was an X/T final. In other years, football playoff revenues have been in the $250,000 range. This is nothing compared to the $1.5 million brought in by the boy's Sweet 16.

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The KHSAA will lose money because of putting X and T in the same district. It changes nothing outside of that. You've made Pride Week into the biggest district game of the year...thats all, but why take what could be 200 grand out of your pocket to send T and X into the same district? Poor financial move any way you look at it.

I guess I don't quite understand why T and X fans are so upset about this. Every year, there can be only one large-school football champ in KY, and in recent years it has been either T or X. The way I see it, nothing has changed. There will still be only one large-school football champ, and it will very likely be either T or X winning it all. Under the current situation, T and X have a regular-season game and a playoff game. Under the new situation, T and X will likely have a regular-season game and a playoff game every year. The only difference is that the T vs. X playoff game will be held at PJCS in November instead of being held at either PJCS or WKU's stadium in early December. Heck, it appears that the new situation will financially benefit T and X. So, what's the big deal?

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I think the real fallacy of the T and X fans has been displayed by the ones complaining about the KHSAA preventing them from being able to meet in the finals. These folks should be kissing the KHSAA's behind for looking for ways to quell the angry crowd with torches and pitchforks that voted for split public/private championships in 2007. The switch to 6 classes and the reduction in the number of teams in 6A in this proposal have decreased the number of programs affected in the largest class. Rather than bellyaching, these folks should be counting their lucky stars they're not in a district with Christian Academy and Owensboro Catholic right about now.

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I think the real fallacy of the T and X fans has been displayed by the ones complaining about the KHSAA preventing them from being able to meet in the finals. These folks should be kissing the KHSAA's behind for looking for ways to quell the angry crowd with torches and pitchforks that voted for split public/private championships in 2007. The switch to 6 classes and the reduction in the number of teams in 6A in this proposal have decreased the number of programs affected in the largest class. Rather than bellyaching, these folks should be counting their lucky stars they're not in a district with Christian Academy and Owensboro Catholic right about now.

 

Is that Wilson Sears? I thought only he had this much hate for the Catholic schools.

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We will take on all comers.

 

You only get better by playing the best.

 

It doesnt matter when we play them in the playoffs. Good teams know how to advance

 

If the other teams can't compete, they need to work harder.

 

There can only be one state champ.

 

Wait?!? They're going to be in our district?? That's not right!!!!!

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I think the real fallacy of the T and X fans has been displayed by the ones complaining about the KHSAA preventing them from being able to meet in the finals. These folks should be kissing the KHSAA's behind for looking for ways to quell the angry crowd with torches and pitchforks that voted for split public/private championships in 2007. The switch to 6 classes and the reduction in the number of teams in 6A in this proposal have decreased the number of programs affected in the largest class. Rather than bellyaching, these folks should be counting their lucky stars they're not in a district with Christian Academy and Owensboro Catholic right about now.

 

My, my, H! I am truly surprised by the venom being spewed. This is just a continuation of the socialistically targeted witch hunt which occurs when any entity's success displays signs of longevity. Don't try to emulate it. Just plot to tear it down, so the pieces can be fed to the masses who wish to minimize competition and reward mediocrity.

 

Let's just call this KHSAA sharade for what it truly is. This 6A realignment was directed specifically at minimizing the teams who could potentially have to beat both Trinity and St. X. to claim a championship. You allude to this yourself. Personally, I can live with it, as I can forsee a much stronger regular season schedule with its attendent larger crowds and income, plus the money from the added X/T game in better weather conditions.

 

However, the odd part of this situation now is that it is Male and Manual who were the lucky twosome chosen to join our little four-man group, so they are now the only ones sentenced to this horrid X/T gauntlet annually before even getting to the semi-finals. I wonder does it bother you as to why you were chosen to be so lucky? Oh well, strap it up my friend and welcome to our new little sewing circle. :cool:

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I don't think the game is worth anywhere near $200,000. The KHSAA's own financial statements put total revenues from all classes at about $300,000 even in years when there was an X/T final. In other years, football playoff revenues have been in the $250,000 range. This is nothing compared to the $1.5 million brought in by the boy's Sweet 16.

 

That's a weighted scale in that we've been in the finals most years, all the while they were here in Louisville. In 2011, let's say it's X, Manual, Trinity, or Male, -vs- some out in the state team, I bet the gate is far less. We can't take years of Louisville finals' numbers compared to one Bowling Green finals' numbers (with X -vs- T) as a prognosis for future revenue.

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I guess I don't quite understand why T and X fans are so upset about this. Every year, there can be only one large-school football champ in KY, and in recent years it has been either T or X. The way I see it, nothing has changed. There will still be only one large-school football champ, and it will very likely be either T or X winning it all. Under the current situation, T and X have a regular-season game and a playoff game. Under the new situation, T and X will likely have a regular-season game and a playoff game every year. The only difference is that the T vs. X playoff game will be held at PJCS in November instead of being held at either PJCS or WKU's stadium in early December. Heck, it appears that the new situation will financially benefit T and X. So, what's the big deal?
Nothing, other than I am torn. I love the money aspect for my alma. But I love when the two best teams meet in the finals. Don't get me wrong, I am not happy that we'll likely play X in week 3 of this year's playoffs (though I am not necessarily certain X is number two this year), but I do appreciate the money that we'll take in from it.
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I think the real fallacy of the T and X fans has been displayed by the ones complaining about the KHSAA preventing them from being able to meet in the finals. These folks should be kissing the KHSAA's behind for looking for ways to quell the angry crowd with torches and pitchforks that voted for split public/private championships in 2007. The switch to 6 classes and the reduction in the number of teams in 6A in this proposal have decreased the number of programs affected in the largest class. Rather than bellyaching, these folks should be counting their lucky stars they're not in a district with Christian Academy and Owensboro Catholic right about now.

 

Don't puff your chest too much. The KHSAA has minimal interest in splitting the championships. The reason you should be concerned, is because when we're done, you're the next target as you would take over as the top dog, and next hit. IMO, the KHSAA is a joke, and we'll continue to ride the wave of titles as long as they'll allow us to, when that ride's over. We become a real powerhouse.

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I would like to know the masses' opinion, if only the top 2 from each district made the playoffs? A true 6A Sweet 16 if you would. Personally, that wouldn't concern me at all. I venture that H would be singing a completely different tune about what district his beloved was "stuck" in.

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