What Is The Definition Of Success?

[En Fuego Hombre]

Among the top tier football schools in Kentucky, what is considered to be a successful season at your school?  Is it a winning record, winning your District, a deep playoff run, or, is it nothing short of a State Championship?  And, how many seasons falling short of successful, would be endured before changes were made at the school?

[CCHFC]

For Cov Cath I’d say it’s probably:

1. Two state titles per decade
2. Five final fours per decade
3. Beating Highlands 50% of the time
4. Beating Beechwood 90% of the time

That means you have a state championship caliber team every other year and are getting over the hump a couple times a decade.

You’re also splitting with your comparable rival and almost always beating your smaller rival. 

Unless the team is looking unprepared, undisciplined and you get embarrassed a few times, I’m going to give a coach five years before considering a change.  

[TheConch]

1 hour ago, CCHFC said:

For Cov Cath I’d say it’s probably:

1. Two state titles per decade
2. Five final fours per decade
3. Beating Highlands 50% of the time
4. Beating Beechwood 90% of the time

That means you have a state championship caliber team every other year and are getting over the hump a couple times a decade.

You’re also splitting with your comparable rival and almost always beating your smaller rival. 

Unless the team is looking unprepared, undisciplined and you get embarrassed a few times, I’m going to give a coach five years before considering a change.  

Using these metrics, would love to see Colonel football broken down by decade. 

I found just the task for @Colonels_Wear_Blue this Christmas season, if you find yourself bored! 

 

[CCHFC]

3 hours ago, TheConch said:

Using these metrics, would love to see Colonel football broken down by decade. 

I found just the task for @Colonels_Wear_Blue this Christmas season, if you find yourself bored! 

 

My guess is these have never been hit with over a full decade (ex. 1990s). Main reasons are Beechwood winning a bunch of games in the 90s and then running into Highlands earlier in the playoffs then they would now with RPI would cut down on the final fours. 

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

4 hours ago, TheConch said:

Using these metrics, would love to see Colonel football broken down by decade. 

I found just the task for @Colonels_Wear_Blue this Christmas season, if you find yourself bored! 

 

I think I could answer that in my head...

For Cov Cath I’d say it’s probably:

1. Two state titles per decade: Thus far it's only happened in the 1980s and 1990's.
2. Five final fours per decade: Thus far it's only happened in the 1990s.
3. Beating Highlands 50% of the time: Thus far it's happened in the 1990s (7-7) and 2020s (5-2).
4. Beating Beechwood 90% of the time: Maybe happened in the 1980s, definitely didn't happen in the 1990s, couldn't have happened in the 2000s because there were a couple of years where we didn't play plus I think two wins by Beechwood but it might have been just one, pretty sure it happend in the 2010s, and it could happen in the 2020s if we win the next 5 years straight.

[TheConch]

2 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

I think I could answer that in my head...

For Cov Cath I’d say it’s probably:

1. Two state titles per decade: Thus far it's only happened in the 1980s and 1990's.
2. Five final fours per decade: Thus far it's only happened in the 1990s.
3. Beating Highlands 50% of the time: Thus far it's happened in the 1990s (7-7) and 2020s (5-2).
4. Beating Beechwood 90% of the time: Maybe happened in the 1980s, definitely didn't happen in the 1990s, couldn't have happened in the 2000s because there were a couple of years where we didn't play plus I think two wins by Beechwood but it might have been just one, pretty sure it happend in the 2010s, and it could happen in the 2020s if we win the next 5 years straight.

What about 2017 & 2019, wouldn’t that be a qualifier for the 2010’s? 

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

15 minutes ago, TheConch said:

What about 2017 & 2019, wouldn’t that be a qualifier for the 2010’s? 

Caught me...you're right. I had it in my head that it was 2017 & 2020 for some reason.

[Jason Bucklen]

2 hours ago, CCHFC said:

My guess is these have never been hit with over a full decade (ex. 1990s). Main reasons are Beechwood winning a bunch of games in the 90s and then running into Highlands earlier in the playoffs then they would now with RPI would cut down on the final fours. 

Beechwood won more than a couple of games against Cov Cath in the 90’s! lol it was either a 9 year steak or a 11 year streak. 

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

22 minutes ago, Jason Bucklen said:

Beechwood won more than a couple of games against Cov Cath in the 90’s! lol it was either a 9 year steak or a 11 year streak. 

Beechwood won from 1994-2000 (seven games) and then we didn't play in 2001 or 2002, then Beechwood won again in 2003 when the series resumed and then Cov Cath won in 2004.

[Jason Bucklen]

On 12/19/2024 at 8:00 PM, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

Beechwood won from 1994-2000 (seven games) and then we didn't play in 2001 or 2002, then Beechwood won again in 2003 when the series resumed and then Cov Cath won in 2004.

Oh ok I knew it was close to that number. I didn’t know the actual number. 

[St. Matthews Boy]

On 12/19/2024 at 11:46 AM, En Fuego Hombre said:

Among the top tier football schools in Kentucky, what is considered to be a successful season at your school?  Is it a winning record, winning your District, a deep playoff run, or, is it nothing short of a State Championship?  And, how many seasons falling short of successful, would be endured before changes were made at the school?

For Trinity, a state championship is the expectation each and every season.

Since 2000 (Beatty's first season), Trinity has only gone two consecutive seasons without playing in a state title game. The longest title game drought for the program since winning its first in 1968 was five years (1995-1999). Those five season were under two head coaches with Chuck Servino serving as head man from 1995-1998 before Kevin Wright's one-year stop in 1999. 

[Ordell]

Historically, for Owensboro High School, I would say a state title game appearance twice in a decade. Of course it’d be great to win a ring during at least one of those visits. Then maybe another two semi finals appearances in a decade. We seem to have been that program for the last 50 years. 

[16thBBall Fan]

Frederick Douglass:

Frederick Douglass goal is the same every year in this order: 

Remain undefeated in Lexington/Fayette Co.

Win District Title

Win Regional Title

Win State Championship

Give/Prepare players to play at the next level and have their education paid for

So far in 8 seasons as a program:

Overall Record: 87-19

Record vs. Lexington/Fayette Co. Schools 36-0

District Titles- 7 (6 in a row)

Regional Titles- 7 (6 in a row)

State Semifinals- 3

State Finals- 3

State Championships- 1

They have had over 50 players go on to play football at the next level and their players in the 8 seasons have received now over $10 million dollars in scholarship money.

[bruin66]

St. X:

Never lose to Manual. 
50/50 vs. Trinity in regular season.

75% or better vs. Male

Get past 3rd round of playoffs every year

Be in the hunt for the state championship every year  

 

[Ram]

I feel this metric changes over time, but…… 

For Raceland over the last 10-15 years:

District Title - every season

Regional Title - every season

Playoffs - make it, at least to the semi-finals, but the finals are quickly becoming the standard  

State Championship - we really want this to be the benchmark, but still working