Runcible Owl Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 🤔 Mixing it up this week. Massey Ratings "Top 10s" by class, but designating statewide rank as opposed to the 1. 2. 3. ... for each. 6A 1. Male, 2. St. Xavier, 5. Frederick Douglass, 7. Trinity, 8. Manual, 16. Ballard, 19. Bryan Station, 23. Bullitt East, 26. Ryle, 30. Simon Kenton 5A 9. South Warren, 12. Highlands, 17. Bowling Green, 18. Scott Co., 21. Woodford Co., 25. Southwestern, 27. Cooper, 28. Greenwood, 30. Owensboro, 35. South Oldham 4A 3. Boyle Co., 4. Covington Catholic, 6. Corbin, 13. Paducah Tilghman, 20. Franklin Co., 22. Ashland, 41. Johnson Central, 44. Logan Co., 55. Taylor Co., 59. Wayne Co. 3A 11. Christian Academy-Louisville, 29. Lexington Catholic, 31. Central, 32. Union Co., 37. Bell Co., 39. Glasgow, 43. Hart Co., 49. Franklin-Simpson, 50. Mercer Co., 51. Lloyd Memorial 2A 10. Lexington Christian Academy, 14. Beechwood, 15. Owensboro Catholic, 24. Mayfield, 73. Green Co., 77. Murray, 97. Somerset, 100. Shelby Valley, 103. Crittenden Co., 107. Breathitt Co. 1A 33. Pikeville, 42. Raceland, 52. Campbellsville, 63. Kentucky Country Day, 79. Paris, 105. Newport Central Catholic, 106. Bethlehem, 113. Sayre, 121. Newport, 124. Louisville Holy Cross * Trefnwyd gan WOPR. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkinslow Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Massey don’t think much of Somerset nor NCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runcible Owl Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Tkinslow said: Massey don’t think much of Somerset nor NCC. BOYS, AND THE ALGORITHM IS DISRESPECTING US. ARE WE GONNA TAKE IT? LET'S GOOOO! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakattack Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 What is the Massey scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runcible Owl Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, Thakattack said: What is the Massey scale? Some useful info in this link that might answer your question. Please see "Methods" and "Justification." wiki/Kenneth_Massey=The Massey Ratings design The "scale" is proprietary to Professor Massey. His system has some credibility beyond HS. His calculations are used as part of college football's BCS rankings. If "scale" can also refer to "range" here's the link to the full KY ratings found through the home site ~ masseyratings.com KY "scale" this week: 1. Male .......................6.98 20. Franklin Co. ........6.22 50. Mercer Co. .........5.32 100. Shelby Valley ...4.53 150. Caldwell Co......3.79 200. Powell Co. .......2.79 223. Jenkins ............0.41 What it means, tbh, 🤷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runcible Owl Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 7️⃣ Week 7 Ratings from Prof. Massey. #1 Male is still king of the hill with Boyle Co. now just below - the new #2. Class leaders remain unchanged ~ 6A Male; 5A South Warren; 4A Boyle Co; 3A CAL; 2A LCA; 1A Pikeville Class Top 10s this week - I've noted Massey statewide rank with (SoS) and cross-referenced KHSAA [Class RPI]. 🔗 masseyratings.com/Kentucky 🔗 khsaa.org/RPI_details 6A KY | School| (SoS) | [RPI] 1. Male (6) [3] 3. Trinity (2) [12] 5. Frederick Douglass (1) [21] 6. St. Xavier (3) [16] 10. Manual (15) [5] 15. Ballard (22) [22] 19. Bryan Station (4) [1] 22. Bullitt East (45) [10] 26. Ryle (7) [4] 29. Simon Kenton (24) [6] 5A KY | School | (SoS) | [RPI] 9. South Warren (13) [3] 11. Highlands (30) [1] 17. Bowling Green (34) [8] 20. Scott County (44) [4] 24. Woodford County (29) [16] 25. Southwestern (21) [22] 28. Owensboro (20) [9] 30. Cooper (41) [13] 35. South Oldham (78) [6] 41. Dixie Heights (27) [12] 4A 2. Boyle County (23) [5] 4. Covington Catholic (19) [1] 7. Corbin (30) [7] 13. Paducah Tilghman (54) [4] 18. Franklin County (73) [2] 21. Ashland (65) [6] 39. Johnson Central (77) [28] 43. Logan County (99) [17] 48. Taylor County (55) [9] 63. Warren East (92) [21] 3A 8. Christian Academy-Louisville (18) [1] 27. Central (27) [7] 33. Union County (33) [3] 34. Lexington Catholic (10) [5] 37. Glasgow (136) [6] 40. Bell County (86) [2] 41. Hart County (119) [9] 45. Mercer County (74) [4] 54. Belfry (48) [16] 55. Lloyd Memorial (171) [12] 2A 12. Lexington Christian Academy (8) [2] 14. Owensboro Catholic (49) [1] 16. Beechwood (26) [4] 23. Mayfield (42) [3] 62. Green County (62) [5] 70. Murray (98) [6] 81. Somerset (81) [8] 110. Crittenden County (72) [7] 112. Breathitt County (85) [24] 115. Shelby Valley (94) [14] 1A 32. Pikeville (28) [3] 43. Raceland (31) [2] 51. Campbellsville (145) [4] 57. Kentucky Country Day (130) [1] 82. Paris (148) [6] 105. Sayre (207) [7] 106. Bethlehem (109) [5] 111. Newport Central Catholic (81) [10] 124. Louisville Holy Cross (139) [8] 126. Newport (150) [9] Rhowch hmnnw yn eich pibell a'I ysmygu. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runcible Owl Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 🍀 Trinity, bolstered by its latest win over St. Xavier (OH) and strong Sos, has supplanted Male as the statewide leader for Week 8. Other than 6A, class leaders remain unchanged: 5A South Warren, 4A Boyle Co., 3A CAL, 2A LCA, and 1A Pikeville. LInks to Massey and KHSAA RPI ~ 🔗 masseyratings.com/KY_HSF 🔗 khsaa.org/RPI_details Statewide Ratings, sorted by Class ~ 6A 1. Trinity; 2. Male; 4. St. Xavier; 5. Frederick Douglass; 9. Manual; 14. Ballard; 18. Bryan Station; 21. Bullitt East; 28. Ryle; 31. Simon Kenton (wait for it ...) 5A 10. South Warren; 11. Highlands; 17. Bowling Green; 20. Scott Co. 23. Woodford Co.; 26. Southwestern; 27. Owensboro; 29. Cooper; 30. Greenwood; 36. South Oldham; 45. Dixie Heights 4A 3. Boyle Co.; 6. Corbin; 7. Cov Cath; 12. Tilghman; 16. Franklin Co.; 22. Ashland; 37. Johnson Cent.; 47. Taylor Co.; 52. Logan Co.; 60. Warren East 3A 8. CAL; 25. Central; 33. Lex Cath; 34. Union Co.; 40. Hart Co.; 42. Mercer Co.; 43. Franklin-Simpson; 49. Bell Co.; 51. Glasgow; 55. Belfry 2A 13. LCA; 15. O'boro Cath; 19. Beechwood; 24. Mayfield; 61. Green Co.; 74. Somerset; 97. Crittenden Co.; 10. Monroe Co. 1A 35. Pikeville; 41. Raceland; 44. Campbellsville; 57. KCD; 78. Paris; 92. Sayre; 100. Bethlehem; 114. Lou. Holy Cross; 115. New Cath; 127. Newport; 128. Middlesboro The Massey link above is sortable on cross tabs by clicking on the header - "Team," "SoS," etc. 🏴 Trefnwyd gan WOPR. Clicking on a Team name, Trinity here, opens up national ranking info, schedule, and score projections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runcible Owl Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 🍀 Professor Massey's ratings have Trinity as the Best of the Bluegrass for the second consecutive week. ❓ Do algorithms match the eye tests of the Bluegrass Preps rankings panel? This week we'll compare Massey, CalPreps, BGP, and the RPI Top 10s for each class. Links to all four can be found below. • 6A M | TEAM | CP | BGP | RPI 1. Trinity , 1 , 3 , 5 2. Male , 2, 1 , 2 3. Douglass , 3 , 2 , 14 4. St. Xavier , 5 , 5 , 6 5. Manual , 4 , 4 , 1 6. Bryan Station , 6 , 6 , 4 7. Ballard , 7 , 7 , 8 8. Bullitt East , 8 , 9 , 3 9. Ryle , 9 , nr , 10 10. Simon Kenton , 11 , 10 , 7 • 5A M | TEAM | CP | BGP | RPI 1. South Warren , 2 , 3 , 1 2. Highlands , 1 , 1 , 2 3. Scott Co. , 3 , 4 , 3 4. Bowling Green , 5 , 2 , 9 5. Woodford Co. , 4 , 5 , 6 6. Southwestern , 6 , 8 , 5 7. Owensboro , 9 , 6 , 8 8. Cooper , 7 , 7 , 13 9. Greenwood , 11 , 9 , 7 10. South Oldham , 8 , nr , 10 • 4A M | TEAM | CP | BGP | RPI 1. Boyle Co. , 1 , 1 , 4 2. Corbin , 2 , 2 , 6 3. Cov Cath , 3 , 3 , 2 4. Franklin Co. , 4 , 5 , 1 5. Tilghman , 5 , 4 , 3 6. Ashland , 6 , 6 , 5 7. Johnson Cent. , 8 , 7 , 17 8. Taylor Co. , 7 , 8 , 10 9. Logan Co. , 10 , 9 , 12 19. Warren East , 15 , 10 , 18 • 3A M | TEAM | CP | BGP | RPI 1. CAL , 1 , 1 , 1 2. Central , 4 , 3 , 20 3. Union Co. , 5 , 6 , 2 4. Lex Cath , 2 , 2 , 15 5. Hart Co. , 7 , 8 , 5 6. Mercer Co. , 6 , nr , 6 7. Franklin-Simpson , 8 , 7 , 4 8. Bell Co. , 3 , 10 , 3 9. Glasgow , 8 , nr , 8 10. Belfry , 10 , 4 , 18 • 2A M | TEAM | CP | BGP | RPI 1. LCA , 1 , 1 , 3 2. O'boro Cath , 2 , 3 , 1 3. Beechwood , 3 , 2 , 2 4. Mayfield , 4 , 4 , 4 5. Green Co. , 5 , 5 , 5 6. Somerset , 6 , 6 , 7 7. Murray , 8 , 9 , 6 8. Crittenden Co. , 7 , 8 , 8 9. Breathitt Co. , 10 , nr , 26 10. Monroe Co. , 12 , nr , 20 • 1A M | TEAM | CP | BGP | RPI 1. Pikeville , 2 , 2 , 4 2. Raceland , 1 , 1 , 7 3. Campbellsville , 3 , 3 , 2 4. KCD , 4 , 5 , 1 5. Paris , 5 , 4 , 3 6. Sayre , 6 , 6 , 5 7. Bethlehem , 7 , nr , 6 8. New Cath , 8 , 7 , 14 9. Lou. Holy Cross , 9 , 9 , 8 10. Middlesboro , 10 , 8 , 9 🏴 Trefnwyd gan WOPR Links to the four ratings/rankings ~ 🔗 masseyratings.com/hsf_ky 🔗 calpreps.com/2023/ky_division 🔗 bluegrasspreps.com/fb_rankings 🔗 khsaa.org/rpi_details Massey KY Top 20 Massey KY Strength of Schedule 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runcible Owl Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 🍀🍀🍀 The Trinity Shamrocks, after defeating Eastern 45-0 in a 6A District 5 matchup, are coasting in the top spot of the Commonwealth's Top 20 for the third consecutive week. Two premier games last Friday provided some of the biggest movement in the ratings from the previous week: #14 South Warren drops four places after their 29-36 home field loss to Bowling Green. The #15 Purples move up four places, primarily on the strength of that win. #19 Bryan Station moves down four spots after their 14-34 loss to #4 Frederick Douglass. Class Top 10's with KY statewide ratings. What do we think Professor Massey's algorithm this week? 🔗 masseyratings.com/hsf/KY 6A 1. Trinity; 2. Male; 3. Frederick Douglass; 6. St. Xavier, 8. duPont Manual; 16. Ballard; 19. Bryan Station; 23. Bullitt East; 27. Ryle; 31. Simon Kenton 5A 10. Highlands; 13. Scott County 14. South Warren; 15. Bowling Green; 24. Woodford County; 26. Southwestern; 28. Owensboro; 30. Cooper; 35. Greenwood; 38. Dixie Heights 4A 3. Boyle County; 5. Corbin; 7. Covington Catholic; 11. Paducah Tilghman; 12. Franklin County; 21. Ashland; 36. Johnson Central; 44. Taylor County; 50. Logan County; 59. Bardstown 3A 9. Christian Academy-Louisville; 25. Central; 29. Lexington Catholic; 32. Union County; 37. Hart County; 46. Mercer County; 48. Bell County; 52. Franklin-Simpson; 53. Belfry; 58. Glasgow 2A 17. Lexington Christian Academy; 18. Beechwood; 20. Owensboro Catholic; 22. Mayfield; 61. Green County; 69. Somerset; 84. Murray; 101. Crittenden County; 107. Shelby Valley; 116. Breathitt County 1A 33. Pikeville; 40. Raceland; 42. Campbellsville; 54. Kentucky Country Day; 90. Sayre; 91. Paris; 105. Bethlehem; 109. Newport Central Catholic; 118. Louisville Holy Cross; 122. Middlesboro 🏴 Trefnwyd gan WOPR Kentucky Top 20 Top 20 by Strength of Schedule If you take issue with "your" team being rated differently than you think it should, please explain further than with just a 😆. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddenCurse44 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, Runcible Owl said: 🍀🍀🍀 The Trinity Shamrocks, after defeating Eastern 45-0 in a 6A District 5 matchup, are coasting in the top spot of the Commonwealth's Top 20 for the third consecutive week. Two premier games last Friday provided some of the biggest movement in the ratings from the previous week: #14 South Warren drops four places after their 29-36 home field loss to Bowling Green. The #15 Purples move up four places, primarily on the strength of that win. #19 Bryan Station moves down four spots after their 14-34 loss to #4 Frederick Douglass. Class Top 10's with KY statewide ratings. What do we think Professor Massey's algorithm this week? 🔗 masseyratings.com/hsf/KY 6A 1. Trinity; 2. Male; 3. Frederick Douglass; 6. St. Xavier, 8. duPont Manual; 16. Ballard; 19. Bryan Station; 23. Bullitt East; 27. Ryle; 31. Simon Kenton 5A 10. Highlands; 13. Scott County 14. South Warren; 15. Bowling Green; 24. Woodford County; 26. Southwestern; 28. Owensboro; 30. Cooper; 35. Greenwood; 38. Dixie Heights 4A 3. Boyle County; 5. Corbin; 7. Covington Catholic; 11. Paducah Tilghman; 12. Franklin County; 21. Ashland; 36. Johnson Central; 44. Taylor County; 50. Logan County; 59. Bardstown 3A 9. Christian Academy-Louisville; 25. Central; 29. Lexington Catholic; 32. Union County; 37. Hart County; 46. Mercer County; 48. Bell County; 52. Franklin-Simpson; 53. Belfry; 58. Glasgow 2A 17. Lexington Christian Academy; 18. Beechwood; 20. Owensboro Catholic; 22. Mayfield; 61. Green County; 69. Somerset; 84. Murray; 101. Crittenden County; 107. Shelby Valley; 116. Breathitt County 1A 33. Pikeville; 40. Raceland; 42. Campbellsville; 54. Kentucky Country Day; 90. Sayre; 91. Paris; 105. Bethlehem; 109. Newport Central Catholic; 118. Louisville Holy Cross; 122. Middlesboro 🏴 Trefnwyd gan WOPR Kentucky Top 20 Top 20 by Strength of Schedule If you take issue with "your" team being rated differently than you think it should, please explain further than with just a 😆. Friday night will find out much of a joke ratings are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runcible Owl Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, MaddenCurse44 said: Friday night will find out much of a joke ratings are! This isn't convincing. Please explain which team/s you are referring to. If not here, then in a game thread, compare and contrast both teams. You didn't comment on this ranking, so you must like at least one of them - if you get the result you want. 🔗 bluegrasspreps.com/Class_6A_Football_Rankings_10-16 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobraxx Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Another flawed rating system. Example: CAL and Bowling Green are ahead of LCA, two team LCA beat and LCA has a stronger strength of schedule then both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddenCurse44 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 23 hours ago, Runcible Owl said: This isn't convincing. Please explain which team/s you are referring to. If not here, then in a game thread, compare and contrast both teams. You didn't comment on this ranking, so you must like at least one of them - if you get the result you want. 🔗 bluegrasspreps.com/Class_6A_Football_Rankings_10-16 Ryle ranked over Simon Kenton is ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpride94 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, MaddenCurse44 said: Ryle ranked over Simon Kenton is ridiculous! We'll know Friday night if ridiculous or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unrivaled97 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, MaddenCurse44 said: Ryle ranked over Simon Kenton is ridiculous! Overall, I’m not a fan of common opponent comparisons unless it’s glaring. In this case, both have wins over Conner, Great Crossing & Campbell Co. by similar margins. It appears both teams are fairly even. Best part is that Simon Kenton gets to prove you right this Friday….or prove you wrong. 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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