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U.S. Border Protection Agcy. Advertises SAFE ZONES for Illegal Aliens | MRCTV

 

Safe zones for illegal aliens. From the article:

 

Just about any illegal alien can avoid arrest by following these simple rules, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) advertises in a post on its website’s homepage.

Providing a virtual "how-to" guide for illegal aliens in its “Sensitive Locations FAQs,”CBP explains that immigration laws are not to be enforced at any of a wide range of designated “sensitive locations” – so that illegal aliens may be “free” to live their lives “without fear or hesitation”:

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Read the whole FAQ and policy. It provides a long list of exceptions to this rule, most of which involve the imminent safety of people in the area. Read a little further, and you'll see these policies the sensitive areas policy doesn't apply in areas of close proximity to international borders.

 

The link provided picks and chooses parts to give a more inflammatory message.

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See below for definitions that will help you understand this better. :)

 

Illegals= a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, especially a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson. Compare resident alien. Expand. Also called illegal immigrant..

 

Illegal-contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.

 

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Read the whole FAQ and policy. It provides a long list of exceptions to this rule, most of which involve the imminent safety of people in the area. Read a little further, and you'll see these policies the sensitive areas policy doesn't apply in areas of close proximity to international borders.

 

The link provided picks and chooses parts to give a more inflammatory message.

 

It was essentially hospitals and schools. Not exactly where someone could simply hide to avoid prosecution but could very easily impact others' rights if these places were used for aggressive surveillance.

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See below for definitions that will help you understand this better. :)

 

Illegals= a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, especially a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson. Compare resident alien. Expand. Also called illegal immigrant..

 

Illegal-contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.

 

 

I'm not sure I understand your point. You posted an article that I assume intentionally provided an incomplete policy to fit a narrative. I noted that the policy isn't nearly as restrictive as the article would like you to believe, especially in border towns, and in the event the there is possible danger to the public. How does providing a definition of what an illegal immigrant is relate to me pointing out that the article you posted is intentionally leaving out key parts of the policy and is at best misleading?? And why do you assume I need the definition of what an illegal immigrant is??The policy isn't designed to make it easy for illegals to avoid arrest. It's designed to protect the safety of the general public. Simply walking into a sensitive area will not allow an illegal immigrant to avoid arrest, especially if he/she is up to no good.

 

Just out of curiosity, did you actually go to the CBP website to read the entire policy before posting the link?? Or did you just post the link without fact checking??

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I'm not sure I understand your point. You posted an article that I assume intentionally provided an incomplete policy to fit a narrative. I noted that the policy isn't nearly as restrictive as the article would like you to believe, especially in border towns, and in the event the there is possible danger to the public. How does providing a definition of what an illegal immigrant is relate to me pointing out that the article you posted is intentionally leaving out key parts of the policy and is at best misleading?? And why do you assume I need the definition of what an illegal immigrant is??The policy isn't designed to make it easy for illegals to avoid arrest. It's designed to protect the safety of the general public. Simply walking into a sensitive area will not allow an illegal immigrant to avoid arrest, especially if he/she is up to no good.

 

Just out of curiosity, did you actually go to the CBP website to read the entire policy before posting the link?? Or did you just post the link without fact checking??

 

:rolleyes:

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I'm not sure I understand your point. You posted an article that I assume intentionally provided an incomplete policy to fit a narrative. I noted that the policy isn't nearly as restrictive as the article would like you to believe, especially in border towns, and in the event the there is possible danger to the public. How does providing a definition of what an illegal immigrant is relate to me pointing out that the article you posted is intentionally leaving out key parts of the policy and is at best misleading?? And why do you assume I need the definition of what an illegal immigrant is??The policy isn't designed to make it easy for illegals to avoid arrest. It's designed to protect the safety of the general public. Simply walking into a sensitive area will not allow an illegal immigrant to avoid arrest, especially if he/she is up to no good.

 

Just out of curiosity, did you actually go to the CBP website to read the entire policy before posting the link?? Or did you just post the link without fact checking??

 

Looks like you got an answer to your question.

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I'm not sure I understand your point. You posted an article that I assume intentionally provided an incomplete policy to fit a narrative. I noted that the policy isn't nearly as restrictive as the article would like you to believe, especially in border towns, and in the event the there is possible danger to the public. How does providing a definition of what an illegal immigrant is relate to me pointing out that the article you posted is intentionally leaving out key parts of the policy and is at best misleading?? And why do you assume I need the definition of what an illegal immigrant is??The policy isn't designed to make it easy for illegals to avoid arrest. It's designed to protect the safety of the general public. Simply walking into a sensitive area will not allow an illegal immigrant to avoid arrest, especially if he/she is up to no good.

 

Just out of curiosity, did you actually go to the CBP website to read the entire policy before posting the link?? Or did you just post the link without fact checking??

 

You said If he or she is up to no good. When he or she crossed the border illegally, he or she is already up to no good. Why do you always advocate breaking the law when it comes to this subject? Work to get the immigration laws changed but simply sidestepping, overlooking, not enforcing them is not what a country of LAWS should be doing. Try going to mexico illegally.

" At this point what difference does it make?"

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You said If he or she is up to no good. When he or she crossed the border illegally, he or she is already up to no good. Why do you always advocate breaking the law when it comes to this subject? Work to get the immigration laws changed but simply sidestepping, overlooking, not enforcing them is not what a country of LAWS should be doing. Try going to mexico illegally.

" At this point what difference does it make?"

 

Really? Please re-read my post. Where do I advocate not enforcing our immigration laws?? I clarified and filled in the missing information that the link conveniently left out to make it appear that so called "sensitive areas" were safe havens to fit a narrative. My "up to no good" comment was in regards to situations where illegals could be approached and arrested, and was a reference to a situation, where the sensitive area designation could be ignored by law enforcement for the benefit of public safety.

 

I absolutely believe the laws should be followed. I also believe our broken immigration policy is just as much the result of business owners continuing to provide employment and consumers being perfectly willing to buy goods and services from the companies who provide employment to illegal aliens, yet we throw all the blame and anger towards the illegal aliens and ignore where the problem starts.

 

I get it, you don't like me, and you've made that very clear many times in the past. But please don't twist my words and take my statements out of context. It's just like what many of the links like the one originally posted....take bits and pieces of information, sprinkle in a rumor or two, and post it as truth to get a rise out of people. It's misleading and helps to further the divide.

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Really? Please re-read my post. Where do I advocate not enforcing our immigration laws?? I clarified and filled in the missing information that the link conveniently left out to make it appear that so called "sensitive areas" were safe havens to fit a narrative. My "up to no good" comment was in regards to situations where illegals could be approached and arrested, and was a reference to a situation, where the sensitive area designation could be ignored by law enforcement for the benefit of public safety.

 

I absolutely believe the laws should be followed. I also believe our broken immigration policy is just as much the result of business owners continuing to provide employment and consumers being perfectly willing to buy goods and services from the companies who provide employment to illegal aliens, yet we throw all the blame and anger towards the illegal aliens and ignore where the problem starts.

 

I get it, you don't like me, and you've made that very clear many times in the past. But please don't twist my words and take my statements out of context. It's just like what many of the links like the one originally posted....take bits and pieces of information, sprinkle in a rumor or two, and post it as truth to get a rise out of people. It's misleading and helps to further the divide.

 

Like you, is this kindergarten? I don't dislike you, would say it if true. I think you take the free for all no holds barred, anything goes approach on a lot of subjects. Liking you has nothing to do with disagreeing with you 90% of the time. I do agree our immigration policy is a mess all the way around. Secure our borders then fix the policy. If we're fixing the policy but never securing the border " What difference does it make."

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Like you, is this kindergarten? I don't dislike you, would say it if true. I think you take the free for all no holds barred, anything goes approach on a lot of subjects. Liking you has nothing to do with disagreeing with you 90% of the time. I do agree our immigration policy is a mess all the way around. Secure our borders then fix the policy. If we're fixing the policy but never securing the border " What difference does it make."

 

Not kindergarten at all. I think you kind of skim through a lot of my posts and make assumptions based on what you think I believe. And you've gone personal on some of your replies. Again, I ask you to re-read my post. Nowhere do I refer to "fixing" the policy. If you read the policy, it is nowhere near as restrictive, and certainly doesn't provide a blueprint for illegal immigrants to avoid arrest. The policy is written with the safety of the public in mind, especially in the areas of schools and hospitals, and does not provide a safe haven. My post was simply to point out that original link and it's information was wasn't telling the whole story. That's not a "no holds barred" approach...it's just presenting facts. I have no issues with the enforcement of the policy, or the arrest/capture/deportation of those who are in the country illegally. Isn't that what most believe?? Again, my biggest issue with our policy is we don't spend as much time talking about or enforcing our labor laws which creates a ripe situation for folks to enter the country in the first place. And as I've said many times, I'm not a fan of meme's, or articles that are written that intentionally leave out information, or misrepresent stats and are meant to inflame rather than inform.

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Not kindergarten at all. I think you kind of skim through a lot of my posts and make assumptions based on what you think I believe. And you've gone personal on some of your replies. Again, I ask you to re-read my post. Nowhere do I refer to "fixing" the policy. If you read the policy, it is nowhere near as restrictive, and certainly doesn't provide a blueprint for illegal immigrants to avoid arrest. The policy is written with the safety of the public in mind, especially in the areas of schools and hospitals, and does not provide a safe haven. My post was simply to point out that original link and it's information was wasn't telling the whole story. That's not a "no holds barred" approach...it's just presenting facts. I have no issues with the enforcement of the policy, or the arrest/capture/deportation of those who are in the country illegally. Isn't that what most believe?? Again, my biggest issue with our policy is we don't spend as much time talking about or enforcing our labor laws which creates a ripe situation for folks to enter the country in the first place. And as I've said many times, I'm not a fan of meme's, or articles that are written that intentionally leave out information, or misrepresent stats and are meant to inflame rather than inform.

 

The labor laws aren't enforced because of our corrupt leaders in congress taking campaign contributions to turn the other way. We need term limits and there should be a cap by law that they can spend on elections. Their finances should be scrutinized harder than anyones.

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