Americans are as skeptical of Black Lives Matter as they were of the Civil Rights Movement - Vox

And I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that 50 years from now, we will have similar headlines.

An interesting tidbit in their is another minority group , Hispanics supports BLM at a lower rate than White Americans.

 

It is a longer discussion we have had many times. I think most agree with the general theme a black life is equal to my life. Some or a lot of people don't like some of the tactics used .

 

On one hand we are told we don't understand the movement . But when we point out bad eggs we are told they aren't apart of of the group or the message. We are told there is no leadership.

 

But if there is no leadership how are we positive all BLM groups are following the same message.

 

I agree I like the progress in Phoenix. But then you look at Oakland where the police offered a similar barbecue outreach to talk. The BLM leaders there were quoted as saying we eat pigs , we don't eat with them.

 

Can there be more understanding undoubtedly. But this can't be one of these issues where you say "White people need to figure it out. " That isn't dialogue.

An interesting tidbit in their is another minority group , Hispanics supports BLM at a lower rate than White Americans.

 

It is a longer discussion we have had many times. I think most agree with the general theme a black life is equal to my life. Some or a lot of people don't like some of the tactics used .

 

On one hand we are told we don't understand the movement . But when we point out bad eggs we are told they aren't apart of of the group or the message. We are told there is no leadership.

 

But if there is no leadership how are we positive all BLM groups are following the same message.

 

I agree I like the progress in Phoenix. But then you look at Oakland where the police offered a similar barbecue outreach to talk. The BLM leaders there were quoted as saying we eat pigs , we don't eat with them.

 

Can there be more understanding undoubtedly. But this can't be one of these issues where you say "White people need to figure it out. " That isn't dialogue.

You bring up some good points. The most important is that while "50 years from now we have similar headlines," I am not sure with much certainty people can define what BLM is about. That includes from people within BLM.

As an aside...

 

I am probably in the minority on this, but I get squeamish all the time when I see another social media post of a cop playing basketball or enjoying a cookout with people in a neighborhood with the headline, "A cop that gets it...." That is a minor fraction of the problem and it deflects from the larger issues plaguing these relations. It also diminishes the efforts of others.

I certainly hope the parallel exists between the two. The civil rights movement was obviously for the betterment of this country, and you can only pray this does the same.

 

The difference I see is that the Civil Rights movement was about enacting new laws that helped reshape culture and attitudes. To me, BLM is more about reshaping biases. Other than calling attention to it, I am not sure what sweeping legislation can exist that would make this a true parallel.

The article that you attached states that Americans are as skeptical of BLM as they were of the Civil Rights Movement. Is this referring to white Americans or all Americans in general?

The Real Reason White People Say 'All Lives Matter'

MLK Would Never Shut Down a Freeway, and 6 Other Myths About the Civil Rights Movement and Black Lives Matter

The Real Reason White People Say 'All Lives Matter'

 

What is institutionalized racism?

What is institutionalized racism?

 

If you are asking what the definition is it means govt/banks/law enforcement/etc showing bias against a group. Much higher rates for loans for blacks, for example.

The Real Reason White People Say 'All Lives Matter'

 

If he removes the part where he seems to generalize a bit too much I think this would be a perfect article.

 

I was emailing with someone who is not down with BLM and he mentioned/wondered how the name itself impacted the perception. Had it been called "BLMT" as in Black Lives Matter Too would it have been received the same?

 

I think the writer did a very nice job of getting to the core. I laughed when he mentioned how people actually whisper "black." I've seen it. It happens more than people realize.

 

I think if we all took a step back and deconstruct his piece that it would be beneficial and lead to good discussion.

 

I do question All Lives Matter's leadership for not speaking out more.

The Real Reason White People Say 'All Lives Matter'

 

I took the test mentioned in the article, " Harvard implicit bias testing"...WOW........a total insult to my intelligence and a total waste of time.

Well I have never treated a black person any more different than a white person.

 

I think the problem is when the BLM ask for violence or supports violence. Or they way some who say they are BLM advocate for burn this place down.

 

I guess it's the looting and crap like that that I don't like.

 

I also don't believe in how people say white privilege. I interviewed for a job that no blacks had even applied for or inquired about. I got the job over 20 other white people and 0 black people.

 

I also know slavery was bad, but I don't feel I owe anything for it as I never or any one I know of in my family gained from it. I researched back to my great great great great great grandparents and none owned slaves and my family has a pretty good family history book that documents a lot.

 

So I don't feel I owe any apologies and if somehow my 4th great grandparent did, it ain't my fault.

 

If everyone could just learn to quit making it a color issue and worry about issues that can help all.

But it's not going to happen until people can understand each other and not think they are right all the time.

I took the test mentioned in the article, " Harvard implicit bias testing"...WOW........a total insult to my intelligence and a total waste of time.

 

I took the test also.