(Hypothetical) Parallel Question about Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner situation

[InItToWinIt]

I am going to use myself in this example; but it is not 100% truth. I use myself as the example so that those of you who know me (and those who do not) can try to envision me saying this to you out loud, and perhaps that will enable you to see my perspective.

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So, if I have followed this whole situation closely, it is my understanding that Bruce Jenner was born as a male, 'assigned' that gender due to his genitalia and a simple DNA test that shows a Y chromosome, in 1949.

 

In 2015, Jenner came out and said that for as long as (s)he can remember*, (s)he has been a girl on the inside despite having male genitalia and the biological makeup (a Y chromosome) of a male. *A point that could be debated, but for another thread.

 

It is very clear that Jenner has been widely accepted as a women now, and (I assume) will now be using women's locker rooms and restrooms, something which in the past only women have been allowed to do. But, since Jenner feels like a women on the inside, (s)he is allowed the right to use the women's facilities.

 

Despite thousands of years of advancements in medical technology that say Jenner is a male, (s)he has decided that on the inside, (s)he is female. And now Jenner is allowed the right to use and access facilities that are intended for female use only.

 

[Note: This goes for all transgenders, not just Jenner. (S)He is just the easiest example to use since everybody knows Jenner]

 

 

So my question to my fellow Bluegrasspreps enthusiasts:

 

I was born multiple decades ago, and due to my both of my parents and all of my ancestors being white, the race I was 'assigned' at birth was determined to be "white." However, despite all of my genetic and biological makeup showing that I am white, I have felt like an African American for as long as I can remember. It is my goal to become a freestyle rapper (for argument's sake), and in many of my raps I use the N word.

 

Anyone who supports Bruce Jenner's transition and accepts that (s)he is now an actual woman cannot tell me that I cannot use the N word, because, on the inside, I feel that I am an African American and am entitled to that word. Even though in the past several decades the word has been reserved for African Americans only and on the outside I am white, it would be perfectly acceptable for me to use that word since I feel I am African American. Despite all of the thousands of years and advancements in medicine Western civilization has made that all point to me being a white male, I am throwing all of that out the window because I think and have always thought that I am African American. Even though I may look white, it is what I personally feel inside my head that is my true identity - an African American male.

 

I am now allowed to say the N word, since that is how I feel on the inside, right?

[TAC]

Only if you want your own reality show!

 

by the way, very interesting twist on this!

[spindoc]

Rap with the N word as a white man, and you may get a genital "reassignment" for free.

[hoops5]

Rap with the N word as a white man, and you may get a genital "reassignment" for free.

Indeed! :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

[TheDeuce]

When/if he has the surgery, I'll start calling him, her...

[TheDeuce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTz4I_hPm78

[rockmom]

My general question to the cosmos, why do we care so much about how someone else chooses to live their lives. Just let them be. It has 0 effect on my life as a heterosexual.

[TheDeuce]

My general question to the cosmos, why do we care so much about how someone else chooses to live their lives. Just let them be. It has 0 effect on my life as a heterosexual.

 

I think the most simple answer is a lot of people feel it is a publicity stunt of some sort.

[rockmom]

I think the most simple answer is a lot of people feel it is a publicity stunt of some sort.

 

Still don't understand why the outrage continues. Even if it is a publicity stunt, what difference does it make? If it IS a publicity stunt, aren't the reactions feeding into it?

[TheDeuce]

Still don't understand why the outrage continues. Even if it is a publicity stunt, what difference does it make? If it IS a publicity stunt, aren't the reactions feeding into it?

 

Absolutely. But to say "if it doesn't affect you, don't comment on it" is pretty naive. Every one of us comment on things every day of our lives that have zero impact on OUR lives. This particular situation is just so big that it is more polarizing than your average gossip topic.

[UKMustangFan]

Absolutely. But to say "if it doesn't affect you, don't comment on it" is pretty naive. Every one of us comment on things every day of our lives that have zero impact on OUR lives. This particular situation is just so big that it is more polarizing than your average gossip topic.

 

Agreed. If we only commented on things that impacted us, BGP wouldn't exist. No need to comment on a single sporting event, or pretty much 95% of the stuff discussed on here on a daily basis.

[True blue (and gold)]

In answer to the original question, I don't give anyone a free pass for using the "n" word - white, black or born-white-but-actually-black. What other ways would this affect your life?

[True blue (and gold)]

I didn't see where RM said that it shouldn't be "commented" on. Some are very worked up about it and like RM, I can't understand why. Why is the topic so polarizing?

[InItToWinIt]

My general question to the cosmos, why do we care so much about how someone else chooses to live their lives. Just let them be. It has 0 effect on my life as a heterosexual.

 

By that logic, what if I choose to be a serial killer in California? Let me be. It has no effect on your life as a heterosexual so let me be.

[InItToWinIt]

In answer to the original question, I don't give anyone a free pass for using the "n" word - white, black or born-white-but-actually-black. What other ways would this affect your life?

 

Would I qualify for higher scholarships at my college because I feel black? That's not fair if I don't. Just because I look white does not mean I am white.