Is there any circumstance where scoring 80 or more points is acceptable?

[theguru]

I am hard pressed here but I have an open mind.

 

Anyone?

[NKY Bandit]

I am hard pressed here but I have an open mind.

 

Anyone?

 

Only time I'd be in favor is if you were playing a team that had done it to you or had a track record of this type of nonsense (see Jim Matney).

[Hatz]

Yes.

 

Waggener 68 Pulaski County 82.

 

2003 AAA Playoffs. :thumb:

[NKY Bandit]

I know, I know, not the right lesson for the kids but my competitive side would want me to crush them.

[75center]

If you're scoring with your second or third team and your defense or special teams I have no problem with it. I don't think you should tell your kids to just lay down.

[PurplePride92]

Yes. Sometimes teams are in the same district and one team is simply that much deeper than another team. Never in any situation should the kids on the field be asked to do anything that isn't construed as normal football. If a team is up 63-3 at the half and the JV and Freshmen end the game scoring 28 more points then in my eyes that is acceptable.

[PurplePride92]

If you're scoring with your second or third team and your defense or special teams I have no problem with it. I don't think you should tell your kids to just lay down.

 

To add to that, in most cases it would be the team that is ahead asking their JV and Freshmen to do the laying down against an opposing team's varsity team. That doesn't seem safe or practical to me.

[newarkcatholicfan]

If you're scoring with your second or third team and your defense or special teams I have no problem with it. I don't think you should tell your kids to just lay down.

I agree 100%. You have to allow the 2nd and 3rd units, run the offense just as the first team does.

[sportsfan41]

Yes, when the #1 team in the state has to play a district opponent that's 0-6 and is giving up an average of 54 points per game. When you have a game under those circumstances things are bound to get ugly.

[theguru]

Yes.

 

Waggener 68 Pulaski County 82.

 

2003 AAA Playoffs. :thumb:

 

Not the intent of the question but you are certainly correct in this situation.

[Hellbird]

Sure, scoring 80 or more points is acceptable if:

The team scoring isn't playing their starters through the majorityof the game.

If the team scoring is playing 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers but keeps scoring.

And of course if the other team has 70+ points lol

 

Maybe a good question is, should a team that can't play a lick of defense apparently put the other team in the hot seat for scoring so much?

 

Sitting back it's real easy to say not to score when the game is already in hand, but you don't teach 4th and 5th stringers to kneel on the ball. They are out there to do their best to hopefully get moved up in the depth chart. They may never get another opportunity to play in a varsity game.

[Hearsay]

The onus should not be on the team doing the scoring. The rulebook permits the losing coach to concede the football game. If you, as head coach, cannot field a football team that stops the other team from scoring, and you believe they are being humiliated, then concede the game.

 

For the team doing the scoring, I believe there are some nebulous sportsmanship guidelines that you can follow at your discretion, i.e., don't do anything to get anyone for either team hurt, pull starters by 3rd quarter, no trick plays, fake punts, etc., get the youngest players in, etc. Personally, I would run the ball in base run offense, even on third and long, because running the ball is the best training for young offensive lineman to work on power-blocking.

 

Incidentally, the old "we have to run our offense" routine doesn't fly with me. The running game is part of every offense, use it. You also "have to run your defense" so if you are being true to your word then run it on third and long and punt so you can "work your special teams," give the other team the ball, and "work your defense." I am not being accusatory at anyone in particular here, but when I hear that "we have to run our offense" phrase, it always makes me wonder why they aren't "running" the rest of their team.

 

Just my .02.

[KentuckyJoe]

I am only for it when it a school vs another school that actually competes for enrollment. I think NewCath should put up 100 on Bishop Brosssart for that reason but they have to much class and wont. As for running it up on just any team NO. Once you are up 30+ or more put all backups in. If they cant stop your second or even third string not much you can do about that.

[ATLCat]

Generally speaking and with the new running clock rules.... no

 

But... and in defense of BG this came into play..... when there are numerous Defensive and Special Teams TD's or fumbles deep in the losing team's own territory then it can cause a score to escalate quickly.

 

I have seen Phillip Haywood coached teams that could easily score any time they wished only win 49-0 or 56-0 because even before the running clock set in Belfry was already doing wholesale subs along the line and at skill positions. He also reduces an already limited playbook down to essentially 2 or 3 plays max and on defense plays as conservatively as humanly possible basically inviting the other team to take the 4 yards or so that he is giving them. On defense when the ball is fumbled they are instructed to fall on it and cover it up the most fundamentally way it is taught... an interception and unless the field is literally wide open the player is instructed just to get down or out of bounds to avoid the risk of fumble or injury. Last week vs. Sheldon Clark Belfry knew it was a game they could win 100-0.. Haywood did not play 3 or 4 guys who would have normally played because they had very minor bumps... Belfry scored 5 TD's on their first 8 offensive plays... yet the Final Score ended very respectable.

 

With that said, these are typically 15 year old kids in the game at the point that it goes from ugly to controversial. It is pretty darn tough to get a 15 year old not to score with an open field and his family in the stands and the girl he likes cheering on the sideline. I buy the idea of running your base offense with your Freshmen, especially with the other teams' 1's in the game... but if it is clear the other team can't even stop them then I would tend to lean towards focusing on situational settings.

 

I also like what Hearsay said above... there is nothing more frustrating then a team losing 49-0 airing it out with their 1's against Freshmen..burning timeouts...onside kicking.. and yet these seem to be the very coaches who would throw the biggest fuss if the opposing team suddenly took a shot to restore the Final Score where it should be.

[JCVD]

So what if the team that has put 70+ on the board is a running team. Say it's the Triple Option or just straight Power O and they can't be stopped...Should they then start passing the ball since it is the run that they have having success with?