Kentucky Class 1A Football Rankings (10/8)

[Ram]

Class 1A

1. Mayfield vs. Fulton County

2. Frankfort at Bracken County

3. Hazard at Jenkins (10/11)

4. Beechwood at Dayton

5. Raceland at #6 Fairview

6. Fairview vs. #5 Raceland

7. Russellville vs. Fulton City (10/13)

8. Williamsburg at Berea

9. Bellevue vs. Ludlow

10. Kentucky Country Day vs. Bethlehem

[Ram]

Agree, or disagree?

[emperorhasnoclothes]

Any thought about putting the previous rank in these polls? That might ad to the discussion>

[Ram]

Any thought about putting the previous rank in these polls? That might ad to the discussion>

Here you go, with some additional information:

 

1. Mayfield (6-1) ... idle

2. Frankfort (6-1) beat Paris 38-0

3. Hazard (3-3) beat #10 Harlan 56-19

4. Beechwood (4-3) beat Bellevue 49-20

5. Raceland (6-1) beat #9 Nicholas County 60-12

6. Fairview (7-0) beat Paintsville 68-20

7. Russellville (5-2) ... idle

8. Williamsburg (6-1) beat Campbellsville 48-0

9. Nicholas County (5-2) lost to #5 Raceland 60-12

10. Harlan (3-4) lost to #3 Hazard 56-19

[MHSCardinal]

Agree, or disagree?

 

I'm not buying Bellevue in the Top 10 right now.. I'd have Eminence or Bethlehem ahead of them right now. Just can't get around that Gallatin Co debacle...That's the same Gallatin Co team that was absolutely throttled by Carroll Co, W.Verona and Lloyd Memorial.. I'd also have Williamsburg in the Top 5 and would move Beechwood to about 7th..Mine would look like this:

 

1) Mayfield

2) Frankfort

3) Fairview

4) Williamsburg

5) Hazard

6) Raceland

7) Beechwood

8) Russellville

9) KCD

10) Eminence or Bethlehem

[twenty4seven]

I'm not buying Bellevue in the Top 10 right now.. I'd have Eminence or Bethlehem ahead of them right now. Just can't get around that Gallatin Co debacle...That's the same Gallatin Co team that was absolutely throttled by Carroll Co, W.Verona and Lloyd Memorial.. I'd also have Williamsburg in the Top 5 and would move Beechwood to about 7th..Mine would look like this:

 

1) Mayfield

2) Frankfort

3) Fairview

4) Williamsburg

5) Hazard

6) Raceland

7) Beechwood

8) Russellville

9) KCD

10) Eminence or Bethlehem

 

I agree with your post concerning Bellvue... how do you get beat by almost 30 pts and then make it in to the top ten at the ninth spot? It could be that 1A football falls off so sharply after the top two or three that it becomes difficult to rank them. NOW, I still believe that Beechwood is in the top two or three in class A football. With ALL respect to Hazard (that loss we suffered at their hands in the title game last year still smarts), Raceland, and Fairview, in my opinion, Beechwood is better thn they are. So, I would have Beechwood in the top three.

[sidelinedoc]

I love these polls but in all honesty, the Districts align their best and by Round 3of the playoffs, the cream will rise to the top. Really do not need a poll, just keep winning.

[Voice of Reason]

I'm not buying Bellevue in the Top 10 right now.. I'd have Eminence or Bethlehem ahead of them right now. Just can't get around that Gallatin Co debacle...That's the same Gallatin Co team that was absolutely throttled by Carroll Co, W.Verona and Lloyd Memorial.. I'd also have Williamsburg in the Top 5 and would move Beechwood to about 7th..Mine would look like this:

 

1) Mayfield

2) Frankfort

3) Fairview

4) Williamsburg

5) Hazard

6) Raceland

7) Beechwood

8) Russellville

9) KCD

10) Eminence or Bethlehem

 

Bellevue 30 Carroll County 9

Carroll County 39 KCD 29

 

Does that equal Bellevue 31 KCD 0? Probably not but ... just sayin'. These score comparisons are all we can go one if we haven't seen all the teams. I hear what you are saying about Bellevue versus Gallatin County. Gallatin County is a hard team to figure out with some lopsided wins and some lopsided losses.

 

Here is my view on Emminence, Bethlehem, KCD ... they play weak schedules, rack up wins and then when they face good teams they usually lose by a pretty good margin. Last year Emminence was 9-1 going into the playoffs and got beat 55-26 in round 1 by Ludlow, who was 3-9 and had lost to Bellevue 40-0. Ludlow lost in the next round to Beechwood 56-0. You can go through the past five years with this class and district alignment and see that the Emminence district struggles to get playoff wins. I just can't buy that any of these teams are better than the worst team in Beechwood's district till they prove it on the field. Without seeing KCD or Emminence and going by records, strength of schedule and history, I would pick Bellevue to beat either of them by 2 TD's or more.

 

I will give you credit. You are consistent. You either truly believe that Beechwood and their district, and N. Ky. football for that matter, are weak or you just want to find a way to knock down Beechwood. But the facts are that Beechwood and the other teams in their district consistently prove in the playoffs that they are better than these teams you are trying to promote.

[MHSCardinal]

Bellevue 30 Carroll County 9

Carroll County 39 KCD 29

 

Does that equal Bellevue 31 KCD 0? Probably not but ... just sayin'. These score comparisons are all we can go one if we haven't seen all the teams. I hear what you are saying about Bellevue versus Gallatin County. Gallatin County is a hard team to figure out with some lopsided wins and some lopsided losses.

 

Here is my view on Emminence, Bethlehem, KCD ... they play weak schedules, rack up wins and then when they face good teams they usually lose by a pretty good margin. Last year Emminence was 9-1 going into the playoffs and got beat 55-26 in round 1 by Ludlow, who was 3-9 and had lost to Bellevue 40-0. Ludlow lost in the next round to Beechwood 56-0. You can go through the past five years with this class and district alignment and see that the Emminence district struggles to get playoff wins. I just can't buy that any of these teams are better than the worst team in Beechwood's district till they prove it on the field. Without seeing KCD or Emminence and going by records, strength of schedule and history, I would pick Bellevue to beat either of them by 2 TD's or more.

 

I will give you credit. You are consistent. You either truly believe that Beechwood and their district, and N. Ky. football for that matter, are weak or you just want to find a way to knock down Beechwood. But the facts are that Beechwood and the other teams in their district consistently prove in the playoffs that they are better than these teams you are trying to promote.

 

Didn't Carroll Co beat Gallatin Co by 30 points and didn't Bellevue lose to Gallatin Co by 36? Would that make Carroll Co 66 points better than Bellevue? Of course, Bellevue beat Carroll Co by 21, so, no, but, my spin is just as good as yours, depending on what your're trying to prove with it. In other words, we can spin away however we want, but, it's all just opinion.. That loss to Gallatin is the PRIMARY reason I don't think Bellevue is a Top 10 team, but, they have 3 other losses, one to a Henry Co team that only has 1 other win on the season and 1 to a very average WVerona team. Plus, no quality wins to speak of.. I agree with you about Eminence, but, there only loss is to an Ohio team and they did just beat Bracken Co, who some were saying was possibly deserving of a ranking a week or 2 back. By no means am I claiming Eminence as a title contender, but, they don't have any bad losses and have as good a wins as Bellevue has. Bethlehem may be the one deserving it. They did beat one of those NKy 1a powers you speak of in Ludlow by a 40-0 score. There only losses are to a good, solid ranked 2a Bardstown team and to a 5-2 3a team in Adair Co.. They also beat Campbellsville by 30, which is the same amount Green Co beat them by, who's a pretty solid 2a team, themselves.

[Asher2012]

Beechwood is top 3 if not 2.

[snakesnot_2000]

Beechwood is top 3 if not 2.

 

So far, they have not played to a top 3 ranking and they may not till they meet Frankfort.

[MHSCardinal]

In most years, Beechwood can make a strong case by beating NCC to end the regular season, but, unless they handily beat them, I'm not convinced that is that great a win this year. Most years, yes, this year, not 100%sure. Do I think Beechwood is a Top 4 team talent wise, probably so or at least close, but, do I think they should be in the top 4 right now, based on all the normal factors(schedule strength, quality wins, bad losses, comparing scores, record, etc), I don't think so. Past history would probably lead me to believe they are, but, teams like Williamsburg, Fairview, Raceland could just as easily have one of those special teams this year. It happens. Those teams may not fare any better if they played Beechwoods schedule, but, who knows, maybe they would.

[Toothpick]

I think I will error on the side of Bw, they still do not appear ready to take on Mf yet but they seem to me like they are improving some and getting healthier. I heard that Haz had a injury to one of their star WR's. Can't recall the kids name but if true that might make the east awhole lot more interesting if it's a long term injury. Any of you guys here anything on this?

[Mayfieldsportsfan]

I say that Beechwood is a top 3 team.

[Ram]

The problem for me, at this point, is Mayfield should be number one because of who they have beaten, or maybe more for how they have beaten them. But, after that, no one else has really done anything surprising. All the other teams have beaten who they should have beaten, and lost to who they should have lost to. Normally there are some surprise wins that most people didn't expect that propels some team over other teams. I think that is why some are skeptical of Beechwood. Beechwood normally beats some teams that some don't expect them to beat. I put Beechwood, Hazard, Raceland, Fairview, Williamsburg, and even Frankfort in that category.