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  1. ^^ What constitutes when a team has to move?

     

    When they win a title they have to move up? When they win 4 titles?

     

    What happens when that schools enrollment drops and they technically should drop in class?

     

    For example... Belfry has a current enrollment in the 600's and is looking more and more like they will drop to 2A enrollment in the next realignment (By example CAL had a significantly higher enrollment than Belfry). If Belfry was moved to 4A should they move back to 3A when their enrollment drops or should they be asked to play two classes up?

     

    Why would Johnson Central move up to 5A after winning their first State Title? Wouldn't this mean all 4A teams with a State Title in that current classification would move up such as South Warren?

     

    How about Highlands who had previously dominated 4A while playing up and are now 5A... should they be asked to move to 6A based off their past success? Once Bowling Green move sup if Highlands wins the title do they go to 6A and effectively play nearly 3 classes above their enrollment?

     

    You have Hazard moving up when they were a State Runner-Up? Do we have to move all Runner-Ups then? Why did CAL not move up but DeSales did? Why didn't NewCath when they have lived in the State Finals for a decade?

     

    Sevgeral factors to consider when moving teams. Size should be JUST ONE. Overall record for the past four years should be another. State titles would figure in and so would state title appearances. You cant just classify schools based on the size of each. That is asinine, and exactly why you have the mismatches you have now.

  2. Everybody wins would never be more exemplified.

     

    Class 2A, 4A, and 6A would be brutal. Those would catch the teams playing up.

     

    Classes 1A, 3A, and 5A would become the teams who won a Championship only because the best teams moved up.

     

     

    Your 2020 1A State Champion... the 8-7 Williamsburg Yellowjackets over the 9-6 Barren County Polar Bears.

     

    Your 2020 2A State Champions the 14-1 Danville Admirals over the 14-1 Mayfield Cardinals

     

    Your 2020 3A State Champions... the 11-4 Lawrence County Bulldogs over the 10-5 Allen County-Scottsville Patriots

     

    Your 2020 4A State Champions... the 15-0 CAL Centurions over the 13-2 Belfry Pirates

     

    Your 2020 5A State Champions... the 12-3 Muhlenberg County Mustangs over the 11-4 Whitley County Colonels.

     

    Your 2020 6A State Champs... the 15-0 trinity Shamrocks over the 14-1 Bowling Green Purples.

     

     

     

     

    Going to be a lot of bad teams in the Finals hoisting trophies in 1A, 3A, and 5A while the teams that beat them that had to play up lose in the 2nd Round[/QUO

     

    The most ridiculous post ever. I am talking about a mass exodus from classes. Nor a huge shift in strength.

    How about this:

    6A Boone Co moves DOWN to 5A (plus 2 more)

    5A Bowling Green moves UP to 6A

    5A Atherton, Apollo, Grant Co moves DOWN to 4A

    4A Johnson Central moves UP to 5A

    3A Belfry and Central move UP to 4A

    4A Hopkins County Central, E Carter, Clay Co move DOWN to 3A

    3A Jackson, Knott Central, McCreary Co move DOWN to 2A

    2A Clinton, Todd Co Central, Trimble, Waggener move DOWN to 1A

    2A DeSales moves UP to 3A

    1A Beechwood and Hazard move UP to 2A

  3. Okay. Wanted to be sure. I don't have a problem if they play up. I don't have a problem if they play in their correct class.

     

    Question about this format. When a school plays up and sees or knows their talent is on a downswing can they go back down to their respective class or play down even further?

     

    For example, say BG moves up to 6A for the next 3-6 years. When year 6 is complete can they move down to 3A or 4A so they can compete or do they have to stay in 6A or 5A?

     

    Only move down one class at a time. Probably 4 year spans on moves. Moving classes based on both a team moving up and one moving down. Equal.

  4. Are you Bernie Sanders?

     

    IN NO WAY would I be considered Bernie Sanders. Bernie would be more for the everyone wins program that we have now. Playoffs that are TOO deep, Champions crowned for beating inferior competition, and more control by the powers that be. What I am suggesting is that schools that have the ability to play up do so to test themselves (a team gets no better playing teams that they can dominate without being challenged). Sure, schools that are not successful in the class they are in will be moved down, but only proportional to those moving up. The ones crying about this suggestion the most are the ones that are glad their particular school is dominating the class they are in.

  5. Ever? :lol2: :lol2:

     

    No Jail Bird, some teams had rather be considered the 33 or so best team in the state, or the 70 some odd team in the state, or the 111th or so, or about the 150th best, or the 190th best or maybe even be happy as better than 31 others or so. As long as they can claim state titles in such a class all is well. Let's not worry about the teams that get dominated year in and year out in these classes while others continue their domination and build bigger trophy cases. Not saying all of the state title winners fit this category, but some most definitely do. These are the teams that should play up a class, and allow teams that are constantly dominated see if they can compete in a lower class.

    LET THE BASHING BEGIN

  6. Colorado does this. Two largest classifications that can generate the most fans and revenue, play at a college or pro stadium, the rest are played at the highest remaining seeds home field, creates great excitement and atmosphere for the hosting team. Teams are also seeded by an RPI system at the beginning of the playoffs.

    CHSAA first became interested in using an RPI system when searching for a way to standardize all postseason qualification processes. It was also used by the football committee in 2015 as a component to the seeding criteria, following a presentation and suggestion from community members. The RPI formula is used by both the NCAA and NAIA, among other organizations, as part of their postseason system. In August, CHSAA's board of directors mandated that all committees use RPI for postseason qualification. Committees have been implementing the system ever since, with some using it as a seeding criteria, as well.

     

    How are the components of the formula specifically calculated?

    ◦Winning percentage (WP): Divide the number of wins by the number of total games played. A tie is worth half a win. If a win in an individual contest gives that contest a winning percentage of 1.00, a tie would give that individual contest a winning percentage of .500 for both teams.

    ◦Opponents' winning percentage (OWP): Average the winning percentages of a team's opponents. (Note: This is not calculated via the combined record of the opponents, instead by averaging each winning percentage of the opponents.) All games involving the team whose RPI is being calculated are ignored in this process.

    ◦Opponents' opponents winning percentage (OOWP): The same process as described above, except calculated for the opponents of a team's opponents. Note that there is an exception for out-of-state teams, which is addressed below.

     

    When calculating out-of-state opponents, their direct winning percentage (for example, .750) will count toward the formula, but each of their opponents will have a .500 winning percentage assigned. Were this not the case, schools would be chasing tens of thousands of opponents of out-of-state opponents over the course of a season, and there is no way to ensure the accuracy of that data. The .500 figure was selected because it is the average value of opponents' opponents winning percentages across all sports in the data we've run.

     

    Except for the home field advantages, I like this one. Would not be hard to implement at say the final eight. This would reinvigorate the fans too.

  7. Play the 5A and 6A games at a neutral site (WKU), the rest are played at the highest seeded team remaining in classification.

     

    NO HOME GAMES for state titles. Neutral sites can be used and applied for seasons ahead of time. There are plenty of 5A or 6A schools who won't be using their field that weekend that are centrally located, and capable of hosting these games.

  8. But all of the schools are playing in their appropriate classes? It doesn't make sense to move up in class for 99.8% of the schools that are playing.

     

    If you use school enrollment ONLY, then yes all are playing in their appropriate classes. However, again, this should be only one of several factors determining the class for each school. You have to remember that not only should schools move up, but others should move down. It would take the KHSAA to get off their butts and do a little work (this seems to be the end all be all). 99.8% isn't even close. I would guess more like 65 to 75%.

  9. People were asking why folks don't go to the games. I'm telling you why I don't go to the games unless my hometown teams are playing. As a casual fan, I would never go. The product isn't worth the price for me. Others may feel differently.

     

    I agree that the state titles (for the most part) could have been mailed in. This is a product of our current system. Travel costs among a million other things are the excuses you get when talking about making state finals more interesting and better games. Teams that had rather get their trophy for being the # 467 best team instead of moving up and playing better schools. I (and am probably out here by myself) had rather see schools be able to play up or down to equal out the competitiveness of every class. Size of school should only be one factor in determining the "class" of each school. This would make every class more competitive, and bring out the best in every team.

  10. THIS

    Seems to me like all of these teams should be moving up classes with the exception of Trininy. (unless you want to make a 7A). Then it also seems like some of the teams that didn't win need to move down classes. For example. 6A and 5A teams getting blown out need to move down. I don't know, may sound stupid, but create parity by shuffling classes. Would make scheduling difficult.

  11. This is a very good piece sir. I will have to do some more investigation into though before jumping on board. Initially, I look at the traditional powerhouse schools and see where they fall. That may very well be the drawback. I feel as if the 6 class system is great with some tweaks. Theoretically, one would want the 6A class to be full of the power teams that can compete on that level (BG for instance would be one example of a school needing to be in 6A). Parity among the schools in each class is the ultimate goal I believe in order to increase the viability of football in Kentucky. Would schools in each bottom tier of their current class be more apt to compete in a class lower than the one they are currently in?

  12. Being a Caldwell County fan, I would have to give the advantage to Mayfield just because this is a home game and the Cards are tough at home. Heard a stat today that out of their last 60 home games, they are 59 and 1. That one belongs to Caldwell. I am by no means selling the Tigers short tonight, but they are the underdog. I predict a very close battle tonight. GO TIGERS

  13. Caldwell Co plays a telling game this Friday night. Still a lot of questions to be answered in Princeton. Many of them could be resolved as the Tigers travel to Mayfield to play the best team in 2A. Barring a Cardinal blow out, the Tigers can make a statement this weekend. Stay close and battle, and I believe they are ready for a long run in the playoffs. Pull out a big win, and this squad could be bound for BG (not that they have to win @ Mayfield to get there). Take the hour and a half trip to Cardinal country and get spanked, and it leaves huge questions as to the validity of this team. The Tigers have struggled pulling out a win in Mayfield, but played a whale of game last year in Princeton. Make no bones about it, it should be a great one to see.

  14. And to think it was just a year ago we listened to you constantly singing the praises of nearly every team in the western half of 3A as favorites over any team in the eastern half, including Belfry. To thoughts about how it was unfair all the good teams had to beat up on each other and while Belfry was the best in the east, and would get an easier path to the finals, they were going to get taken to the woodshed in Bowling Green. We all saw how that played out on the field.

     

    Now they are just too good and dominant that they should be forced up in class so everyone else could benefit. Because they are head and shoulders above all the weak sisters in 3A, that their recent dominance should not be considered a success.

     

    Hilarious, but entertaining.

     

    This is par for the course. I am a little surprised here, but I should have known. As I said last year, the WEST side of the bracket is 100 times more competitive in 3A than is the EAST side. Seems to be more of the same this season. Belfry will have to play one of these teams in Bowling Green, and could very well dominate that game too, NO DOUBT. But, they had to perform in ONE game. Let's don't shake up things so that the best 4 or 8 teams play head to head at the end. Not saying the outcome is any different (all credit goes to Belfry). I don't believe anybody would argue that Belfry had a cake walk to Bowling Green while the WEST is up for grabs. BOO HOO. Yes, I thought moving Caldwell up to 3A was a mistake at first, but now I have changed my mind and see that moving them up was the best thing for them. Asking this school to keep up the high expectations that have been brought on them is and is an excellent challenge for this team. Will it produce a ring every season? NOPE. Will it ever? Who knows. But, I wouldn't want it any other way. You see guys, when someone or some group achieves a higher standard, the only thing to do then is to ask for more. Caldwell has showed they are very competitive in this class and it seems to fit them. Now, their next step is to become that dominate team in 3A. This is their current challenge. One that Mayfield was obviously ready for, accepted it, and thrived from it in 2A. If you are fine with putting "running clock" scores on teams every game, and not be challenged that is your right to do so. All hail Belfry, the best team in the state of Kentucky (bar about 110 others, because for God's sake let's don't imply they should play against better competition) as the Class 3A State Champion!!!!

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