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    Fantasy Trade Question

    Do you take this trade?

    I get Bulger and I give up Marion Barber III.

    He started out asking for Edge...I told him no way. I then countered with Ahman Green. He came back with this.

    I'll find my league info and post it.
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    I'm wondering what BGP land thinks of my fantasy team. It's a 12 team non-keeper league, scoring pretty standard with .5ppr and 4pt QB td. Are there any type of trades you would attempt to make to fill up some weaknesses? There is one rookie (he got first pick) in the league, three other fairly weak fantasy players, and the remaining players are really really good players. If anyone is wondering, I had the 6th pick. We start 2 Rb's, 3 Wr's, and a flex position.

    I've made some changes since draft day. Schaub became available and I picked him up and dropped McNair. So my QB's are now Losman and Schaub. Everything else is the same still.
    Matt Schaub QB
    J.P. Losman QB

    Joseph Addai RB
    Marion Barber III RB
    Edgerrin James RB
    Ahman Green RB
    Warrick Dunn RB
    Michael Turner RB
    Adrian Peterson RB (Chicago)

    Terrell Owens WR
    Lee Evans WR
    Santonio Holmes WR
    Isaac Bruce WR

    Vernon Davis TE

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    With those RB's I would pull the trigger even with Pace out for St.L.

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    Absolutely, don't let Bulgers week one performance scare you. He has way to much fire power not to have a great year. Barber is a TD vulture but Julious Jones is on a contract year and is gonna demand more chances. With your backs you can afford this trade. Bulger is right behind Manning, Brady, Palmer...

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    Barber gets a lot of TD's...I'd have a hard time choosing to trade him instead of Edge.

    Either way, with your RB and QB situation, I'd trade one of those two (Edge or Barber) for Bulger in a heartbeat. Bulger will give you better and more consistent production at QB and you can afford to give up a RB. I think this would be a great trade for your team...

    Seriously though, Barber looked really good to me what I watched of the Giants game. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get more and more carries and decrease Julius Jones role...he's already the main red zone option for an explosive offense. Edge is an older RB playing for a team that has a questionable line...I voted yes, but I'd think awfully hard about giving him Edge instead of Barber.

    Of course, you'd be taking the chance that Barber may not get more carries...and Edge is clearly the man in 'Zona. Plus, you have to expect with Wisenhunt and Grimm there, the Cardinal O-line will get better as the season goes...the more I think about it, I think I'd go ahead and give him Barber.

    I'll quit now before I convince myself of something else.

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    Absolutely pull the trigger!

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    Bulger is a top 5 QB, if you are hurting at QB then do it.

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    Thanks everyone. I pulled the trigger. I tried some counter offers and this is all I could get. I really think Barber is going to be a stud and that's what held me up.

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    What about this one.. Team A is giving Jay Cutler, Larry Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh for Team B is giving Tom Brady, Donald Driver, Juluis Jones. Who gets the best out of this 1?

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    ^Team B, IMO...but if Brady's stats go up due to the improved receiving core and LJ's go down due to supporting cast or injury, it could be Team A. I think LJ and TJ will score way more than Jones and Driver...Brady over Cutler wouldn't make up enough. Of course, it also depends on the rest of the roster...the Team A has some more good backs, they might want to make the trade to boost their QB, because the difference in Driver and TJ if both stay healthy shouldn't be much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5wide
    ^Team B, IMO...but if Brady's stats go up due to the improved receiving core and LJ's go down due to supporting cast or injury, it could be Team A. I think LJ and TJ will score way more than Jones and Driver...Brady over Cutler wouldn't make up enough. Of course, it also depends on the rest of the roster...the Team A has some more good backs, they might want to make the trade to boost their QB, because the difference in Driver and TJ if both stay healthy shouldn't be much.

    Thanks. I'm team B and needing to make some things happen. I know Brady put up 31 pts last week but its not likely he will do that every week. I'm struggling in the wr position and i only have rudi at rb, carnell williams was my other guy and hes a ?. I figure that the difference in Brady/Cutler will be made up in what I'm getting from LJ and Housh. I think Driver/Housh is a wash almost except Housh is playing with a better Offense. Anybody else have an opinion?

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    Absolutely, you would be dumb not to do it!

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    I like Green better than Barber anyway...PULL THE TRIGGER!...You are thin at QB and plenty loaded at RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRC4LIFE
    Thanks. I'm team B and needing to make some things happen. I know Brady put up 31 pts last week but its not likely he will do that every week. I'm struggling in the wr position and i only have rudi at rb, carnell williams was my other guy and hes a ?. I figure that the difference in Brady/Cutler will be made up in what I'm getting from LJ and Housh. I think Driver/Housh is a wash almost except Housh is playing with a better Offense. Anybody else have an opinion?
    I'd make that trade then if I were in your position.

    1. Brady is much better than Cutler and will probably have a career year this year, but Cutler should improve as the season goes, so the difference may not be as bad come playoff time when it really matters.

    2. I'm not buying into the hype that LJ's numbers are going to nosedive, or that he's going to get hurt. He's in the prime of his career at 27. He didn't start carrying the full load until the midway point of 2005, so he's basically got a year and a half of wear and tear. I expect his overall yardage to dip slightly due to the Chiefs using him more wisely and giving him some rest and he's surrounded by the worst supporting cast of his career. I think his TD numbers will remain consistent, because he is going to be their guy in the red zone. The reduced carries and rest could actually help though because he might be fresher at the end of games when the Chiefs love to pound the ball with him, meaning he will be more able to take advantage of those situations...if that happens, his numbers could possibly go up. That's definitely the optimistic look though...I just think he'll remain a top 5 or 6 fantasy RB and a consistent producer at worst.

    As for Julius Jones, I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of guys who get to carry the ball from 20 to 20 and then go to the bench. He might get you a 1,000 yards, but he won't score many TD's. And actually, I expect to see him lose more and more carries to Barber as the season goes on. I think Barber is the better back. Barber is a better receiver which means he is the third down back and the goalline back, so all of Jones value is in rushing yards. He won't catch many passes and he won't score TD's.

    3. Driver is Favre's #1 option so he gets the ball thrown his way as much as anyone. He's been right up there with Harrison, CJ and Holt as far as consistency goes over the past 3 seasons, so he should be rated a little better than TJ. However, TJ's numbers have increased for 3 straight seasons. Plus, he missed two games last season, so it would be closer if he played a full 16. I actually expect Houshmandzadeh to be a better fantasy producer than Driver this season and here's why. First, e benefits from playing in a great offense...Rudi and the ground game keep D's honest and Chad's presence keep teams from keying on him. Second, Palmer is a top five NFL QB and should be completely healthy this season, so he should be even better than last season. Third, TJ is Carson's favorite target in the red zone, which means he should get plenty of touchdown opportunities. And, finally, Chris Henry will return in week 9, which will open things up even more and his value might be even higher at season's end when it matters.

    Here's a little breakdown of how these guys produced last season...

    2006 Fantasy Stats

    Tom Brady - 214
    Jay Cutler - 64 (in five games), 204 (projected over 16 games)

    Larry Johnson - 317
    Julius Jones - 136

    Donald Driver - 179
    T. J. Houshmandzadeh - 155 (in 14 games), 177 (projected of 16 games)


    So, from last year's stats (projecting everyone playing 16 games)...

    Brady + Jones + Driver = 529 points
    Cutler + Johnson + Houshmandzadeh = 698 points


    That's a pretty big difference. Brady should easily surpass the 214 he scored last year. Cutler should, at the worst, hit around the 204 number, and could very well exceed it with more experience, a better running game and a healthier Javon Walker.

    There's no reason to expect Julius Jones numbers to increase. I think they'll actually decrease some. LJ's numbers may drop some, but I think he'll get you at least 250 in a worst case scenario.

    There's no reason to expect Houshmandzadeh to miss any games, so his numbers should equal Driver in a worst case scenario. I think they'll be better. I figure he might outscore Driver by 10 or 20 points this year.

    Summary - Make the trade. Unless someone goes down for the year, you're almost a lock to get the better end of this deal. At worst it might be a wash...but there's a pretty good chance it could be a huge upgrade for you points-wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5wide
    I'd make that trade then if I were in your position.

    1. Brady is much better than Cutler and will probably have a career year this year, but Cutler should improve as the season goes, so the difference may not be as bad come playoff time when it really matters.

    2. I'm not buying into the hype that LJ's numbers are going to nosedive, or that he's going to get hurt. He's in the prime of his career at 27. He didn't start carrying the full load until the midway point of 2005, so he's basically got a year and a half of wear and tear. I expect his overall yardage to dip slightly due to the Chiefs using him more wisely and giving him some rest and he's surrounded by the worst supporting cast of his career. I think his TD numbers will remain consistent, because he is going to be their guy in the red zone. The reduced carries and rest could actually help though because he might be fresher at the end of games when the Chiefs love to pound the ball with him, meaning he will be more able to take advantage of those situations...if that happens, his numbers could possibly go up. That's definitely the optimistic look though...I just think he'll remain a top 5 or 6 fantasy RB and a consistent producer at worst.

    As for Julius Jones, I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan of guys who get to carry the ball from 20 to 20 and then go to the bench. He might get you a 1,000 yards, but he won't score many TD's. And actually, I expect to see him lose more and more carries to Barber as the season goes on. I think Barber is the better back. Barber is a better receiver which means he is the third down back and the goalline back, so all of Jones value is in rushing yards. He won't catch many passes and he won't score TD's.

    3. Driver is Favre's #1 option so he gets the ball thrown his way as much as anyone. He's been right up there with Harrison, CJ and Holt as far as consistency goes over the past 3 seasons, so he should be rated a little better than TJ. However, TJ's numbers have increased for 3 straight seasons. Plus, he missed two games last season, so it would be closer if he played a full 16. I actually expect Houshmandzadeh to be a better fantasy producer than Driver this season and here's why. First, e benefits from playing in a great offense...Rudi and the ground game keep D's honest and Chad's presence keep teams from keying on him. Second, Palmer is a top five NFL QB and should be completely healthy this season, so he should be even better than last season. Third, TJ is Carson's favorite target in the red zone, which means he should get plenty of touchdown opportunities. And, finally, Chris Henry will return in week 9, which will open things up even more and his value might be even higher at season's end when it matters.

    Here's a little breakdown of how these guys produced last season...

    2006 Fantasy Stats

    Tom Brady - 214
    Jay Cutler - 64 (in five games), 204 (projected over 16 games)

    Larry Johnson - 317
    Julius Jones - 136

    Donald Driver - 179
    T. J. Houshmandzadeh - 155 (in 14 games), 177 (projected of 16 games)


    So, from last year's stats (projecting everyone playing 16 games)...

    Brady + Jones + Driver = 529 points
    Cutler + Johnson + Houshmandzadeh = 698 points


    That's a pretty big difference. Brady should easily surpass the 214 he scored last year. Cutler should, at the worst, hit around the 204 number, and could very well exceed it with more experience, a better running game and a healthier Javon Walker.

    There's no reason to expect Julius Jones numbers to increase. I think they'll actually decrease some. LJ's numbers may drop some, but I think he'll get you at least 250 in a worst case scenario.

    There's no reason to expect Houshmandzadeh to miss any games, so his numbers should equal Driver in a worst case scenario. I think they'll be better. I figure he might outscore Driver by 10 or 20 points this year.

    Summary - Make the trade. Unless someone goes down for the year, you're almost a lock to get the better end of this deal. At worst it might be a wash...but there's a pretty good chance it could be a huge upgrade for you points-wise.

    Made it happen and accepted in.. Thanks for that in depth stats!! Much appreciated.. Didn't hurt any that Ben Roethlisberger was a FA so I picked him up

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