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    Grantland.com

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    Grantland.com launched today and so far it has been very good.

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    It is going to become one of my favorite sites I believe.

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    Should be interesting to see what it turns into.

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    Hmm... I still don't know what to think of this. I have such a love/hate relationship with both Simmons and Klosterman that I just don't know what to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getslow View Post
    Hmm... I still don't know what to think of this. I have such a love/hate relationship with both Simmons and Klosterman that I just don't know what to do with it.
    Why the love/hate?

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    I was starting to read some of the other articles on the site today but they kinda sucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formerkywrestler View Post
    Why the love/hate?
    There are a few things I'm forced to consider when reading/listening to Simmons:

    - About 40% of his content is absolutely unreadble/unlistenable. An hour-long podcast dedicated to what he thinks the betting line should be on that weekend's NFL games is enough to make me want to pull my brain out through my ear with a crocheting hook.

    - There are two things that, at least in my opinion, made him famous to begin with: 1) talking about sports betting and 2) at least the attempt at taking a fan's perspective, which I like. In the age of blogs, it seems ludicrous that writing from the fan's perspective was basically unheard of 10 years ago. What's great about it is reflected more acutely in the podcasts when he asks questions that fans discuss on their own. Talking about TV: asking his guest "So, 'Justified,' top five show?" Talking about the NBA: "Quick, top five point guards playing now." These are interesting discussions that I really enjoy hearing his and his guests' perspectives.

    - The guy loves to find the GM/ownership position and ride that perspective out when discussing any number of things. If, as a fan, I cared how owners made money, I'd read Forbes. His almost constant desire to break issues down into "How much money can be made by this?" is infuriating to me.

    Off the top of my head, there are three things I consider when I listen to Simmons, one thing I like, two I don't. There's constant pull between them.

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    ^ Agreed his podcasts are brutal for the most part. I very rarely listen to one of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getslow View Post
    There are a few things I'm forced to consider when reading/listening to Simmons:

    - About 40% of his content is absolutely unreadble/unlistenable. An hour-long podcast dedicated to what he thinks the betting line should be on that weekend's NFL games is enough to make me want to pull my brain out through my ear with a crocheting hook.

    - There are two things that, at least in my opinion, made him famous to begin with: 1) talking about sports betting and 2) at least the attempt at taking a fan's perspective, which I like. In the age of blogs, it seems ludicrous that writing from the fan's perspective was basically unheard of 10 years ago. What's great about it is reflected more acutely in the podcasts when he asks questions that fans discuss on their own. Talking about TV: asking his guest "So, 'Justified,' top five show?" Talking about the NBA: "Quick, top five point guards playing now." These are interesting discussions that I really enjoy hearing his and his guests' perspectives.

    - The guy loves to find the GM/ownership position and ride that perspective out when discussing any number of things. If, as a fan, I cared how owners made money, I'd read Forbes. His almost constant desire to break issues down into "How much money can be made by this?" is infuriating to me.

    Off the top of my head, there are three things I consider when I listen to Simmons, one thing I like, two I don't. There's constant pull between them.
    Addressing the first point. I don't think I watched a whole NFL game this year and could really care less about the league. Sometimes I'd skip that podcast, but for a total non-fan I still found the banter between him and Cousin Sal to be entertaining so I probably still listened to it half the time. Regarding the podcasts, I have found that Simmons style alone can make things I really could care less about entertaining.

    I actually love that he finds the GM/ownership position and discusses it. His constant talk about trades, particularly NBA trades are one of the many things I love about Simmons. But, I can see how that can be annoying to many people.

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    I've been reading the past couple days and have enjoyed the articles so far. The features on The National sports newspaper were very interesting.

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    I only read the Simmons stuff unless I see a topic on there that interest me.

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    I think it's going to be a bust. How many regular ESPN readers are looking for longer-form content they can't get at ESPN's main site? I just don't see the market for this kind of stuff being that large, but I could be off. They've also gotten some "big names" to write there, but potential readers are going to be drawn by the quality of the content, not the resumes of the authors. Considering the price tag of those resumes, I think that is a mistake.

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    Simmon's most recent NBA story was phenomenal.

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...errifying-lows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habib View Post
    I think it's going to be a bust. How many regular ESPN readers are looking for longer-form content they can't get at ESPN's main site? I just don't see the market for this kind of stuff being that large, but I could be off. They've also gotten some "big names" to write there, but potential readers are going to be drawn by the quality of the content, not the resumes of the authors. Considering the price tag of those resumes, I think that is a mistake.
    The one about the National is over 13K words long. Who has to time to sit down and read that? I put it in a word document to see how many words and how long it was. It was 31 pages. That is like a mini novel.

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