Will We Ever See .400 Again...

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    Will We Ever See .400 Again...

    Watching the Reds/Padres game Wednesday night, more specifically Joey Votto, got me wondering about this....Will we ever see another .400 season, and if so, who would it be?

    Watching Votto, he seems like the type of hitter that would have a chance (if anyone really does). He rarely ever swings at bad balls, and almost never gives away AB's, which IMO are keys to making a run at it.

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    I don't think so, too much film and tools to find holes in people's swings and tendancies that allow you to shift defenses.

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    I say no...especially now that Ichiro is getting up there in years. He was someone I legitimately thought could do it.

    If I was forced to bet on someone playing today it would be Miguel Cabrera. If Joe Mauer played a less demanding position I'd probably lean towards him over Miggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formerkywrestler View Post
    I say no...especially now that Ichiro is getting up there in years. He was someone I legitimately thought could do it.

    If I was forced to bet on someone playing today it would be Miguel Cabrera. If Joe Mauer played a less demanding position I'd probably lean towards him over Miggy.
    I think it has to be a great hitter that can also run. At the end of a long season those 8-10 infield hits will loom large in a .400 season. No one named above fits that bill, of course, besides an aging Ichiro.

    I don't see it ever happening again.

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    Stephen Jay Gould believed that the overall excellence of play both among batters and among defensive players and pitchers has increased so much that the best and worst hitters in the league are now closer to the league average, which has remained surprisingly steady over the last century. It's a compelling argument (which admittedly has many detractors), but it's an interesting thought. To my mind, it's undeniable that pitching and defensive play are at high points right now.

    I'm not going to say "never," but when .330-.340 is what's winning batting titles, it's hard to envision a .400 hitter in this environment.

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    I'm with Getslow. I'm not going to say never, because you never know when a freakish talent will arrive on the scene, or when the stars will align for a magical season. But, I seriously doubt it happens in the near future. And, I don't think any of the current superstars of the sport will do it. So, I'm looking ahead to a newcomer, or one of the rising prospects in the game today, as a possibility a few years down the road at the earliest.

    It just seems unlikely that if it didn't happen in the steroid era it will suddenly happen now. And yes, I'm aware steroids don't make you a great hitter, but a great hitter on the juice undoubtedly gets some extra hits because of the increased power, whether its a HR or double off the wall that would have been a fly out, or a line drive that was hit just a little bit harder that may have been an out otherwise. JMO

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    I really don't think that we will but never say never as far as baseball milestones go. A few years ago, when with the BoSox I thought that N. Garciaparra was going to get it, was very close but tailed off towards seasons end.
    Ichiro still probably would have the best shot now, he is getting a little older though.

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    Probably not, but I agree you would have to be a fast runner. Being left handed probably would help in seeing more righties and being a step closer to first. Being a hitter that draws walks would also help. Also, might not hurt to be a guy that spent a little time on DL, just to get barely over minimum ABs to qualify.

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    It will be tough but never is a strong word. Think about how bad the HR record was broken. People already get an edge with vision so who knows.

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    I say we'll never see it but it's not impossible.

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    I don't think it'll ever happen again. It would take a fast left handed hitter, someone who can get quite a few IF hits. This type of player would likely be a top of the lineup hitter which increases the amount of ABs during the season. Ichiro hit .372 one season with 704 ABs. He needed 19 more hits for a .400 average.

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    Never say never.

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    I highly doubt it. Baseball is slowly transitioning back into a pitchers game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEERFAN View Post
    I don't think it'll ever happen again. It would take a fast left handed hitter, someone who can get quite a few IF hits. This type of player would likely be a top of the lineup hitter which increases the amount of ABs during the season. Ichiro hit .372 one season with 704 ABs. He needed 19 more hits for a .400 average.
    And he had an absurd 262 hits that year, which is the all-time record.

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