Astros Manager and GM Suspended for 2020 Season

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    Astros Manager and GM Suspended for 2020 Season

    For cheating during the 2017 World Series.
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    MLB is also fining the Astros $5 million and taking their first and second round picks in the '20 and '21 drafts.

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    Good.

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    I don't follow this, do the Astros get to keep the title or do they have to vacate the World Series win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    I don't follow this, do the Astros get to keep the title or do they have to vacate the World Series win?
    No mention of vacating anything that I have seen. Redsox are next up for this same punishment.

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    It appears the Astros have fired the GM.

    Both the GM and the manager are set to serve one-year suspensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getslow View Post
    It appears the Astros have fired the GM.

    Both the GM and the manager are set to serve one-year suspensions.
    And the manager was fired too according to ESPN.

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    If the Reds did the exact same thing and got to keep the title, I think it might be worth it haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    No mention of vacating anything that I have seen. Redsox are next up for this same punishment.
    Quote Originally Posted by MJAlltheWay24 View Post
    If the Reds did the exact same thing and got to keep the title, I think it might be worth it haha!
    Thanks JD and that is my thinking MJ, if you get to keep the title why not cheat...

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    May I be the first to ask the question, "How this any different (worse or not as worse) than Pete Rose betting on baseball?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nkypete View Post
    May I be the first to ask the question, "How this any different (worse or not as worse) than Pete Rose betting on baseball?"
    Worse. The Astros actually cheated in games. Pete did not.

    The Astros cheated in a game after MLB had told teams do not use technology to steal signs. When the Red Sox got caught a few years ago, MLB said if anyone does this again the penalty will be very stiff.

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    I would like to speak to someone about about taking away the Astros' title...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    Worse. The Astros actually cheated in games. Pete did not.

    The Astros cheated in a game after MLB had told teams do not use technology to steal signs. When the Red Sox got caught a few years ago, MLB said if anyone does this again the penalty will be very stiff.
    Eh... I'm not so quick to say what the Astros did was necessarily any worse. Rose bet on games he played and managed in. While not cheating per se, he could have directly impacted those games in a way he would personally benefit. It goes directly at the integrity of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Eh... I'm not so quick to say what the Astros did was necessarily any worse. Rose bet on games he played and managed in. While not cheating per se, he could have directly impacted those games in a way he would personally benefit. It goes directly at the integrity of the game.
    I was waiting for that exact response. Here's a thought...not saying it happened in the Astros case. What if someone involved in the Astros cheating effort notified the betting industry that they had a way to directly impact the game through technology and to bet accordingly! Isn't that the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Eh... I'm not so quick to say what the Astros did was necessarily any worse. Rose bet on games he played and managed in. While not cheating per se, he could have directly impacted those games in a way he would personally benefit. It goes directly at the integrity of the game.
    And here's what people are quick to dismiss/forget. What about the games that Rose did NOT bet on? A message to the oddsmakers?

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