What is Ashland going to do???? part 2

Page 2 of Originally Posted by LRCW The only thing they can do. Go back and watch the films, practice and try to get better. I wouldnt want to watch this game fi... 42 comments | 2117 Views | Go to page 1 →

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    I have heard their is some unrest at Ashland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfish Stevens
    Very true. I am suggesting that observers expect too much of Ashland. While their history is impressive, it should be remembered that many of the other state schools, including some local ones, have significantly closed the gap. Statewide, many have created a gap in the other direction.

    Ashland is no longer a program in the elite class with X, T, Highlands, Bowling Green, LexCath, and several others. It is unfair of their fans to expect the success of the past because that level of talent isn't there and, from all indications, won't be there in the foreseeable future.

    While I would think the jury is still out in regard to the other two you mention, I would wholeheartedly agree that Thomas is a quality athlete. He has a proven record. He has earned the spotlight. While I am no Ashland partisan, I do hate to see Thomas in a situation where his skills cannot be completely utilized and appreciated.


    I completely agree about Matt. He's terrific kid and an outstanding athlete. I hate to see his senior year start like this.

    On the other note, No offense to Ashland but they haven't been in the elite class with Trinity, Highland, Bowling Green, Lex Cath, ect in a quite some time. You'd have to go back to the 1990 team to put Ashland in that category. That's not saying that they haven't had very good teams since then because they have but not any teams that could play with those schools.

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    Sounds like some good insight from everyone.....

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    It doesnt matter what class we are in. Hart has to stay consistant with the players he has and quit flip flopping- he kept going back and forth with Thomas at QB and at RB. The first drive with Thomas at RB Ashland done well and choose not to go for a short yardage 4th down and the next series Thomas is back at QB - go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by momcat
    It would be hard to know if there are other talented players because there are several walking the sideline who are not given an opportunity. Some of these are kids who had really good freshman and sophomore years but who haven't seen time this year. With the difficult season Ashland is having thus far, I would think the coaches might try different looks rather than sticking with a line up that obviously is not working. Yep folks, you heard it here, politics and the name you carry are alive and well in the Ashland football program! I'll bet there are some that wish they hadn't been so quick to get rid of Mahan too!
    Let me let you in on a little secret - Ashland has had players but they havent been given the chance to preform since Hart has been at Ashland. Ashland is inexperienced team not a young team due to Hart. If the other QB is going to be the QB next year why not put him in there now and take your licks and go on. Thomas has preformed well at QB but I like him better at RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRCW
    The only thing they can do. Go back and watch the films, practice and try to get better.
    I wouldnt want to watch this game film.....

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    Ashland has to go back to basics ... Hitting , Blocking , Tackling. These fundamentals have been missing since Vic left .... Ashland is flagship for this area they need to represent with a brand of hard nose football not the spread , shotgun or some other college ' want to be a player " attack .... Ironton is perfect example they will return as scheme is sound and Lutz knows how to execute. Ivan is another example not as hard nosed but has a basic proven scheme every year ... Ashland can do it has the kids and support just needs to committ to a new direction and go ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDDEVILMVP'06
    Ashland has to go back to basics ... Hitting , Blocking , Tackling. These fundamentals have been missing since Vic left .... Ashland is flagship for this area they need to represent with a brand of hard nose football not the spread , shotgun or some other college ' want to be a player " attack .... Ironton is perfect example they will return as scheme is sound and Lutz knows how to execute. Ivan is another example not as hard nosed but has a basic proven scheme every year ... Ashland can do it has the kids and support just needs to committ to a new direction and go ...
    good post.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy ol' dad
    Let me let you in on a little secret - Ashland has had players but they havent been given the chance to preform since Hart has been at Ashland. Ashland is inexperienced team not a young team due to Hart. If the other QB is going to be the QB next year why not put him in there now and take your licks and go on. Thomas has preformed well at QB but I like him better at RB.
    A very insightful observation from happy 'ol dad. Therre is a great difference between "young" and "inexperienced". Probably the most true analysis was given by Coach Lutz when he said, "We're not very good, but they are not very good either."

    When a team struggles with its level of talent, good coaching, like Coach Lutz displayed last night, usually makes a big difference. As for Ashland, Hart, and the rest of his staff, we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfish Stevens
    A very insightful observation from happy 'ol dad. Therre is a great difference between "young" and "inexperienced". Probably the most true analysis was given by Coach Lutz when he said, "We're not very good, but they are not very good either."

    When a team struggles with its level of talent, good coaching, like Coach Lutz displayed last night, usually makes a big difference. As for Ashland, Hart, and the rest of his staff, we'll see.
    I agree with kingfish and red devil mvp-- they're both right imo. It can't be about who you want to play, but who can do the best in those positions. Look at other options, give other kids a chance to see if they can get the job done. And, go back to the basics. One of the reasons we are where we are is because the majority of these players have never had any varsity experience.

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    Everyone needs to get their act together in this thread or there will be action on our part.

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    Hang in there Cats, work hard and keep your heads up. We still believe and we'll be there to support you!

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    Momcat we fill your pain . Tell those players to hang in there and work hard. Its only HS Football and not the end of the world.Win or lose these are all great kids and all have great futures ahead of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoneBuster23
    Momcat we fill your pain . Tell those players to hang in there and work hard. Its only HS Football and not the end of the world.Win or lose these are all great kids and all have great futures ahead of them.
    Like next football season. Almost all of these players will be back next season, and they will be very experienced. Ashland will be tough next season. Of course, I still think they will win some games this season as well.

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    What's Ashland going to do ? What they do every Friday night and line up and go out there and play football.

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