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    Quote Originally Posted by JDEaston View Post
    Yeah they can't just go driving around and checking to see if kids live at the addresses they put on a piece of paper. It's just not possible.
    Don't know if that was sarcasm or not.

    But not feasible in a place like Louisville.

    And what if there was very little on the outside to tell who actually lived there.

    With far less schools to cover, should be upon school then school district to verify address before KHSAA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel Bryan View Post
    Don't know if that was sarcasm or not.

    But not feasible in a place like Louisville.

    And what if there was very little on the outside to tell who actually lived there.

    With far less schools to cover, should be upon school then school district to verify address before KHSAA.
    It wasn't sarcasm. It's just not possible to police that is what I was getting at. Whether it be rural Greenup county that has a land area about the size of Jefferson County, or urban Louisville, it's just not possible.

    Basically it's an honor system and the khsaa only gets involved when something is brought to their attention. Outside of that whatever address lands on a piece of paper is fair game because they honestly have no clue who lives at said address.

    Again its basically an honor system like state campgrounds are when you go camp there out of season. Unfortunately the honor system isn't reliable in this day of age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel Bryan View Post
    No.
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    N.O.

    So a kid hangs on to his get outta jail free card til his senior year and decides he wants to join someone better?

    What if a bunch of AAU kids (especially in Louisville, Lexington or NKY) want to join the hot new hire?
    Then let them do it. Itís allowed at a much easier rate at every other level. I grew very fascinated with what Joe Burrow did for LSU this year in football and it made me think what if he was never allowed to transfer? If players from an AAU program want to team up and play together I do not see a problem with that if all the parents are on board. Fans like to see great teams, obviously you would like to see kids stick it out but there are free college educations on the line for some of these families. To withhold them from that is unbelievable and wrong to me. Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathaniel Bryan View Post
    No.
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    So a kid hangs on to his get outta jail free card til his senior year and decides he wants to join someone better?

    What if a bunch of AAU kids (especially in Louisville, Lexington or NKY) want to join the hot new hire?
    Then let them. It’s really a simple answer.

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    I guarantee the school that dimed them out has had their share of questionable transfers as well. I’ve yet to see a transfer that isn’t/wasn’t questionable. If you get your paperwork right and cross your Ts and dot your Is then all will be well. They were too sloppy with too many enemies taking notes. That’s all that happened here.

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    KHSAA tries to police their rules but everytime they do they get a law suit, same with the ncaa. Everytime they want to rule a kid ineligible they get a law suit.

    My thoughts are if you don’t want to play by KHSAA rules then don’t play, it isn’t mandatory they can put any rules they want and lawsuit Shouldn’t be an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyPattern View Post
    KHSAA tries to police their rules but everytime they do they get a law suit, same with the ncaa. Everytime they want to rule a kid ineligible they get a law suit.

    My thoughts are if you don’t want to play by KHSAA rules then don’t play, it isn’t mandatory they can put any rules they want and lawsuit Shouldn’t be an option.
    When was the last time someone won a transfer lawsuit against the NCAA or KHSAA? I hear this argument all the time, yet I couldn’t name 3 guys who sued and won. I can think of a dozen kids who ended up sitting out after appealing and losing. Courts have consistently upheld transfer rules in high school and in College. The “lawsuit” argument simply doesn’t hold any water. Very few actually sue, and even fewer actually win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBTEA View Post
    Then let them do it. It’s allowed at a much easier rate at every other level. I grew very fascinated with what Joe Burrow did for LSU this year in football and it made me think what if he was never allowed to transfer? If players from an AAU program want to team up and play together I do not see a problem with that if all the parents are on board. Fans like to see great teams, obviously you would like to see kids stick it out but there are free college educations on the line for some of these families. To withhold them from that is unbelievable and wrong to me. Just my opinion.
    Couldn't agree more. Especially with the free educations on the line part. Adults would rather see a kid get a raw deal and sit on the bench or not be the best they can be, then move somewhere, flourish, and get their schooling paid for. Especially since everything was cleared already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DearToday View Post
    Couldn't agree more. Especially with the free educations on the line part. Adults would rather see a kid get a raw deal and sit on the bench or not be the best they can be, then move somewhere, flourish, and get their schooling paid for. Especially since everything was cleared already.
    Not following the bolded part. What is being paid for? What free education on the line?

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    From what I understand, the player in question was cleared twice to play for this season. Lewis county hired a private investigator to looking into the player and I believe large his AAU coach. Upon the private investigator report Lewis county then took it to other school in the district and area to sign off on the complaint with them and sent it all to KHSAA. Which takes us to the letter on the 20th that informed Greenup Schools of some of those finding. Again this is what I’ve heard and read on other site, I’ve not heard anything first hand from people in position of knowledge at Greenup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DearToday View Post
    Couldn't agree more. Especially with the free educations on the line part. Adults would rather see a kid get a raw deal and sit on the bench or not be the best they can be, then move somewhere, flourish, and get their schooling paid for. Especially since everything was cleared already.
    For the vast majority, free educations are NOT on the line. Most athletes are still responsible for paying a big chunk, if not almost all of their education. But I completely agree, let go where they want to go. Because in reality, there's only a penalty involved if you are an athlete. Any other participant, of any other activity, can pretty much go wherever they want, whenever they want, without being forced to sit out. I get that there needs to be some controls. The one, no questions asked transfer that many have mentioned, seems like a perfect compromise. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyPattern View Post
    KHSAA tries to police their rules but everytime they do they get a law suit, same with the ncaa. Everytime they want to rule a kid ineligible they get a law suit.

    My thoughts are if you don’t want to play by KHSAA rules then don’t play, it isn’t mandatory they can put any rules they want and lawsuit Shouldn’t be an option.
    Like who? Who has won an actual lawsuit when suing the KHSAA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
    For the vast majority, free educations are NOT on the line. Most athletes are still responsible for paying a big chunk, if not almost all of their education. But I completely agree, let go where they want to go. Because in reality, there's only a penalty involved if you are an athlete. Any other participant, of any other activity, can pretty much go wherever they want, whenever they want, without being forced to sit out. I get that there needs to be some controls. The one, no questions asked transfer that many have mentioned, seems like a perfect compromise. .
    Coaches are free to change schools whenever they want to. Players aren’t.

    It makes zero sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PP1 View Post
    Not following the bolded part. What is being paid for? What free education on the line?
    The kid in question could very well get his college paid for. And if being ineligible hurts that chance, then who are we in it for? There's a lot of colleges throwing money at kids to come play for them and willing to work with them to help as much as possible. When a kid is ruled ineligible all it hurts is the kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
    For the vast majority, free educations are NOT on the line. Most athletes are still responsible for paying a big chunk, if not almost all of their education. But I completely agree, let go where they want to go. Because in reality, there's only a penalty involved if you are an athlete. Any other participant, of any other activity, can pretty much go wherever they want, whenever they want, without being forced to sit out. I get that there needs to be some controls. The one, no questions asked transfer that many have mentioned, seems like a perfect compromise. .
    The more I've got into high school athletics, it's blown my mind how many colleges are just looking for kids to fill roster spots and willing to pay for their school to do it. I've seen kids who are second, third string football players get part of their college paid for. Like you stated, any other participant can leave when they feel free. Coaches can leave teams at any point and face no repercussions for doing so. But when a kid does it he needs to sit a year when he only gets four to begin with.

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