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    Quote Originally Posted by cooperstown View Post
    Who are obviously good hitters and who will get their opportunity to shine on a fulltime basis at the varsity level next season. If you think any of these .600 hitters are going to hit anywhere remotely close to that at the varsity level right now, it won't happen. There is a big - BIG - difference in the quality of pitching at the JV and varsity levels.
    I hit .450 at the JV level. I hit .142 the next year at the varsity level.

    Anyone thinking a hot hitting JV player can come and step into the varsity game and excel is not dealing in reality.
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    I totally agree with you with the varsity level being a different game all together, it is a faster game and you need to learn to hit the crisper curve ball . However, when I see a kid finishing up the season with the highest batting average on the JV team last year as a freshman, and is doing it again this year playing JV ball .I would think it would be time to present a larger challenge for him. I am of the mind that a player gets better when he faces a better competiton. However, just to say you sat on the bench with varsity players is not the answer. It is better for a kid to get plenty of playing time at the JV level instead of saying " I sat on the bench with the varsity team." Honestly, the best opportunities are with select summer teams where you travel the south and play those kids who actually throw 90 mph+ fast balls and are future D1 players and select draft picks. Clyde, I agree, there is a BIG difference, however, there is a time to give certain players those challenges, especially since he has already faced those in the summer time 2 years older than him. Frankly, when everyone uses BBCOR bats next year everyone may be batting .142.

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    .600 batters? I'm not sure if I believe that

    Quote Originally Posted by terrific tom View Post
    .600 batters at the JV level at Ryle?

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    My personal opinion is that you often see better pitching at the freshman and varsity level than you do the JV level, so while a .600 is really good...... If you are going to see it at the end of the year, it's probably going to be at that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by READYMADE View Post
    .600 batters? I'm not sure if I believe that
    I think Ryle does have several JV hitters that are at .500 and above. I've seen some of these guys close up and talk to Coach Demler frequently. There are some flat-out legit hitters on this team that should have very nice varsity careers. My only point was this: while those are indeed impressive averages, they are also being attained against a level of pitching well below varsity level. There are a number of teams - Cooper, Highlands, Walton, Scott, and others - who have quite a few underclassmen up on varsity, and as a result have weaker JV teams and weaker pitching. So you can't simply say that a .500 or .600 or even .700 JV hitter is guaranteed success at the varsity level. And more importantly, who should be benched on Ryle's varsity in favor of a JV player? While there are some Ryle hitters with lower than expected averages at this point, it's been tough to find a consistent groove at the plate while in the throws of monsoon season and all these cancellations. Ryle's starting lineup consists primarily of returning players from last year that have already proven their ability to hit at the varsity level and last year's top JV players. I just don't think you sit any of them who might be struggling a tad only 10-12 games into the season in favor of a JV player. Might happen later down the road, but not the third week of April.

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    I understand what you are saying. There are some very good hitters on Ryle's JV team. I guess my problem with the average would be if kids not just Ryle were to see good pitching and team defense on a frequent basis which they will likely see more of at the varsity level, maybe those averages would not be so high...

    Quote Originally Posted by cooperstown View Post
    I think Ryle does have several JV hitters that are at .500 and above. I've seen some of these guys close up and talk to Coach Demler frequently. There are some flat-out legit hitters on this team that should have very nice varsity careers. My only point was this: while those are indeed impressive averages, they are also being attained against a level of pitching well below varsity level. There are a number of teams - Cooper, Highlands, Walton, Scott, and others - who have quite a few underclassmen up on varsity, and as a result have weaker JV teams and weaker pitching. So you can't simply say that a .500 or .600 or even .700 JV hitter is guaranteed success at the varsity level. And more importantly, who should be benched on Ryle's varsity in favor of a JV player? While there are some Ryle hitters with lower than expected averages at this point, it's been tough to find a consistent groove at the plate while in the throws of monsoon season and all these cancellations. Ryle's starting lineup consists primarily of returning players from last year that have already proven their ability to hit at the varsity level and last year's top JV players. I just don't think you sit any of them who might be struggling a tad only 10-12 games into the season in favor of a JV player. Might happen later down the road, but not the third week of April.

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    Cooperstown? Top J.V. players? Half of your top J.V. players are still playing again for the second year J.V. baseball for Ryle . Including your top hitter from last year's JV team and the current top hitter on Ryle's JV team. The freshmen last year had more homeruns than any sophomores did and the same guys are hitting them again this year. Including the guy who hit 3 homeruns in one day. Also the JV team has also had its share of rainouts and interruptions to interfere with their groove. Weak teams for varsity. How about Cooper (Freshman pitcher) Grant County ( 8th graders in the outfield) Simon Kenton several underclassman (Freshmen, sophomores on their team) I don't buy it.

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    And this thread continues. Wow! This thread was about a particular game and then someone comes in and starts talking about JV. The JV comment should have been a thread of it's own. Basically what has happened is this person is an underclassmen putting down his on teamates and I don't think he even knows he's doing it. Bottom line is Ryle's Varsity has had a pretty tough schedule to start the season. Give the teams credit along with who's pitching against them. If you don't want to do that maybe you should go to one of the above mentioned schools or somewhere south as mentioned so you can get on a varsity team. I'm quite sure there's a school in the south you could start varsity for.

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    I'm just stating the facts young man

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    I love Ryle and I love every single player on the team this year, years in the past, and years to come. IT is one of the best schools in NKY.I hope they win their district every year.. I am just stating the fact that there is going to be a huge log jam in the year(s) to come on the varsity level at Ryle if it is a coach's purpose (Ryle or anywhere else) to try to please those on the varsity team because of their class standing and experience on the varsity squad. If anything I am not putting down anyone I am stating the facts that there are others at the JV level at Ryle that could help the varsity Right Now if they chose to and see it necessary to do so. I was very happy with varsity's play this evening beating Dixie 7-2 at Freedom Field. One of the better games that the varsity has played all season. I also understand that each coach has his own philosphy in how he puts a system in place. However, I have also heard that it is every coaches' wish to put the best team on the field, and I am not so sure Ryle is doing that at times. Again, I am not cutting down anyone or mean to, but I am just stating the facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrific tom View Post
    Cooperstown? Top J.V. players? Half of your top J.V. players are still playing again for the second year J.V. baseball for Ryle . Including your top hitter from last year's JV team and the current top hitter on Ryle's JV team. The freshmen last year had more homeruns than any sophomores did and the same guys are hitting them again this year. Including the guy who hit 3 homeruns in one day. Also the JV team has also had its share of rainouts and interruptions to interfere with their groove. Weak teams for varsity. How about Cooper (Freshman pitcher) Grant County ( 8th graders in the outfield) Simon Kenton several underclassman (Freshmen, sophomores on their team) I don't buy it.
    I'm sure you don't buy it. You are too entrenched in the viewpoint that your son is a superstar who should be at the next level and that Ryle's naive and ignorant coaches have conspired to hold back him and the best players from last year's JV team at the expense of putting together an average varsity team. You really should take up your concerns with Coach Roesel and Coach Demler, as I'm sure they would benefit from your insight on how to improve their respective teams and the program as a whole. Lord knows the varsity team would benefit from the addition of your son, given that he is one of the most feared hitters in the history of JV baseball. Or for that matter, if you want to PM me with your name, I'll be happy to forward on your concerns to either or both of them.

    You won't be able to do this, but why don't you try to clear your mind and go back and read your posts. If you speak half as arrogantly about your son in public as you have on this site, I'm guessing people don't enjoy being around you much. In your first few posts ever on this site, you have managed to insult the Ryle coaching staff, the varsity team, and quite a few of your son's JV teammates who in your mind apparently have little business being on the field with someone of your son's elite caliber.

    Look, the reality is that no one sees their own son with objective eyes. At various times, we think they are way better than they really are or much worse than they really are. Hazards of being a dad. I'm sure your son is a fine hitter and player. But for now, despite your analysis of Ryle's varsity after seeing them for all of one game, he is where he needs to be and the varsity has all the talent they need to win district and the region. If the point in time comes that Coach Roesel thinks the varsity can improve with the addition of your son or other JV players, I'm sure he will make that move. In the meantime, I would suggest you let your son focus on being the best he can be at the JV level and let his game speak for itself - rather than his father remind everyone of his greatness.

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    Nice work, Mr. Cooperstown! I agree that it sounds like comments from the father of a JV sophomore, no doubt a pretty good baseball player. The young man would probably be embarrassed to read this "terrific" thread.

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    Wow, I like that Cooperstown!1 Well spoken


    Quote Originally Posted by cooperstown View Post
    I'm sure you don't buy it. You are too entrenched in the viewpoint that your son is a superstar who should be at the next level and that Ryle's naive and ignorant coaches have conspired to hold back him and the best players from last year's JV team at the expense of putting together an average varsity team. You really should take up your concerns with Coach Roesel and Coach Demler, as I'm sure they would benefit from your insight on how to improve their respective teams and the program as a whole. Lord knows the varsity team would benefit from the addition of your son, given that he is one of the most feared hitters in the history of JV baseball. Or for that matter, if you want to PM me with your name, I'll be happy to forward on your concerns to either or both of them.

    You won't be able to do this, but why don't you try to clear your mind and go back and read your posts. If you speak half as arrogantly about your son in public as you have on this site, I'm guessing people don't enjoy being around you much. In your first few posts ever on this site, you have managed to insult the Ryle coaching staff, the varsity team, and quite a few of your son's JV teammates who in your mind apparently have little business being on the field with someone of your son's elite caliber.

    Look, the reality is that no one sees their own son with objective eyes. At various times, we think they are way better than they really are or much worse than they really are. Hazards of being a dad. I'm sure your son is a fine hitter and player. But for now, despite your analysis of Ryle's varsity after seeing them for all of one game, he is where he needs to be and the varsity has all the talent they need to win district and the region. If the point in time comes that Coach Roesel thinks the varsity can improve with the addition of your son or other JV players, I'm sure he will make that move. In the meantime, I would suggest you let your son focus on being the best he can be at the JV level and let his game speak for itself - rather than his father remind everyone of his greatness.

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    I'm already sick of hearing about Ryle's JV team....They are talented, but not unbeatable...

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    Good job Cooperstown!!!! I TOTALLY AGREE with your statements.There is a season for everyone and every player and Coach Roesel and Coach Demler, and Coach Collins are excellent coaches and do a great job at what they do and they will make the right decisions when those times come.NO ARGUEMENT I think the coaches a Ryle are some of the best coaches in N. KY and it is much easier to critize from the side lines ! Please, I am NOT trying to be AROGANT I apologize if I came across that way to everyone. By the way,I do not have the second coming in a player going to Ryle, your totally wrong I do not have a dog in this hunt. I am just asking questions as a fan of Ryle baseball .Cooperstown? If anyone would know the reasons and answers, ..... I thought you might know. Following all the teams at Ryle, from the freshmen level, the JV level and Varsity level, please educate me why there are so many different philosophies from different schools across N.K in respect of playing time for underclassmen and what is Ryles? I honestly do not know.

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