France bans the veil for Muslim women

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    France bans the veil for Muslim women

    Another case of if you dont like our law, then leave our country. Should France have to adorn to the Muslim law?

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    I have a feeling if France outlawed cross necklaces we'd be hearing how they're "infringing on religious rights".

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    France has a long history of xenophobic policies attempting to retain their "cultural purity" and I don't believe they have done anything but ghettoize groups and intensify immigrant solidarity. In other words, their policies have worked counter to integration and made their perceived problems worse.

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    From the President:

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy set the wheels in motion for the ban nearly two years ago, saying the veils imprison women and contradict this secular nation's values of dignity and equality. The ban enjoyed wide public support when it was approved by parliament last year.

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    Seems lame to me. How is a women choosing to wear a veil hurting France or the general public?

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    Should the US ban Jews from wearing yarmulkes?

    Should the US ban Amish women from wearing bonnets?

    Should the US ban the Hasidic Jewish men from wearing their sideburns long and uncut?

    Should the US force conservative Baptist women to wear shorts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Should the US ban Jews from wearing yarmulkes?

    Should the US ban Amish women from wearing bonnets?

    Should the US ban the Hasidic Jewish men from wearing their sideburns long and uncut?

    Should the US force conservative Baptist women to wear shorts?
    Yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habib View Post
    France has a long history of xenophobic policies attempting to retain their "cultural purity" and I don't believe they have done anything but ghettoize groups and intensify immigrant solidarity. In other words, their policies have worked counter to integration and made their perceived problems worse.
    Agreed. They have long advocated policies of "Frenchness," which has led to riots, etc. in their country. I don't really fault them for their stance, as it is their right to make those choices, but they also have to be able to handle the issues that come with a ban like this.

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    The thing is men dress like this and cover up like women and then go bomb a place. If you dont like it go back to a Muslim country that makes you wear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    The thing is men dress like this and cover up like women and then go bomb a place. If you dont like it go back to a Muslim country that makes you wear it.
    Again, you don't believe in freedom of religion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain ref View Post
    The thing is men dress like this and cover up like women and then go bomb a place. If you dont like it go back to a Muslim country that makes you wear it.
    So you'd feel the same way if they banned the wearing of crosses for Christians?

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    I thought it was a security issue but I guess it's more of a women's rights issue?

    "saying the veils imprison women and contradict this secular nation's values of dignity and equality." If so the arguments about the cross, bonnets, sideburns etc are not comparable, are they?

    If the women are wearing them voluntarily the law is stupid. If they are forced to wear them wouldn't the law be a good thing? They would appear to be uncomfortable, particularly in hot weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    Should the US ban Jews from wearing yarmulkes?

    Should the US ban Amish women from wearing bonnets?

    Should the US ban the Hasidic Jewish men from wearing their sideburns long and uncut?

    Should the US force conservative Baptist women to wear shorts?
    Only the hot ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell View Post
    Only the hot ones
    This, All Tell, is funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75center View Post
    I thought it was a security issue but I guess it's more of a women's rights issue?

    "saying the veils imprison women and contradict this secular nation's values of dignity and equality." If so the arguments about the cross, bonnets, sideburns etc are not comparable, are they?

    If the women are wearing them voluntarily the law is stupid. If they are forced to wear them wouldn't the law be a good thing? They would appear to be uncomfortable, particularly in hot weather.
    I'm certainly not going to speak for the women however I'd think that their choice of a religion forces them to wear it just like strict Baptists cannot wear shorts or skirts above the knees, etc. They are part of a religion that has rules about dress. If there is no public safety issue then I'm not sure why we want to put a law in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    So you'd feel the same way if they banned the wearing of crosses for Christians?
    A cross doesn't cover your face and hide you. It is a security issue IMO.

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